OneMoSalah 8,886 Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 16 hours ago, Vesper said: £65m Football transfer news and rumours: 'Chelsea consider £65m Barcelona bid for Willian' https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2018/07/23/football-transfer-news-rumours-chelsea-consider-65m-barcelona2/ Matt Law hammered Willian too, later on, on of the very rare times Law has had a go at a Chels player and the board in public While I see the point, for years and years players like Drogba, Lampard, whoever else have also reportedly fallen out with manager X or manager Y or a coach or whatever, theres been this issue or that issue and lasted past the managers and nobody batted an eyelid. Willian, who other than that one moment with Conte (ho also had repeatedly fallen out with Luiz and Eden) hasnt done anything else. The club could have thrown their weight behind Conte but it was so clear they would sack him in like Feb or March, so dont see why its a huge issue. If Willian had done a Tevez and gone AWOL or was being a continuous fuss yes I would see the issue but one moment (which yes it was wrong) is hardly enough to throw him out after what I would say, has been a successful period (2 PL titles, 1 Europa League, 1 FA cup and 1 EFL cup). If it was another player it wouldnt be half the issue, I get Willian splits opinions, he always has like many players here but I feel he continously is one that is repeatedly highlighted for next to nothing in the grand scheme of things. Lampard when AVB was here for instance, while none of its been 100% confirmed etc was reportedly speaking with Roman regarding AVB bla bla bla while its maybe not true or even if it is, compared to that post Willian put up on instagram, that is barely anything in todays day and age in regards to what has happened with other players at other clubs (Pogba-Mourinho bust up at Utd last season too). The likes of Serge Aurier slating Laurent Blanc and calling him a homosexual or whatever comes to mind. Willian hasn't done half as much as whats made out. We can definitely improve on him though. Undoubtedly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoroccanBlue 5,380 Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 Willian is essentially one of the reasons we’ve done so poorly in Europe. The board look to him as the standard. Honestly baffles me how there are still people who defend this fraud. 5 league goals a season on average. FIVE. Should’ve been gone after 2017. A lot of things should’ve happened in 2017. A transfer window that has essentially fucked us from the brilliance of our board. Atomiswave and 11Drogba 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! Tomo 21,751 Posted August 5, 2019 Popular Post! Share Posted August 5, 2019 10 minutes ago, MoroccanBlue said: Willian is essentially one of the reasons we’ve done so poorly in Europe. The board look to him as the standard. Honestly baffles me how there are still people who defend this fraud. 5 league goals a season on average. 5 The very main reason we have done poorly in Europe post the old guard era is because upto last season we couldn't cope against any form of commited pressing which would in turn lead to us being strangled out of games against elite opposition and feeding on absolute scraps. Even the likes of Roma were coming to Stamford Bridge and overwhelming us due to that. As I've said before I've never been Willian's biggest fan but if I had to entail a list of reasons as to why we've been poor in the CL since winning it, he wouldn't even be the tip of the iceberg. Superblue, Strike, Stats and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
communicate 2,703 Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 6 hours ago, MoroccanBlue said: Willian is essentially one of the reasons we’ve done so poorly in Europe. The board look to him as the standard. Honestly baffles me how there are still people who defend this fraud. 5 league goals a season on average. FIVE. Should’ve been gone after 2017. A lot of things should’ve happened in 2017. A transfer window that has essentially fucked us from the brilliance of our board. Yet after 3 manager (Conte,Mou and Sarri) and now Lampard, I have never heard that we are looking to move him. That is not board decision. If the manager does not fancy Willian, I'm pretty sure we can move him. Willian is not brilliant but is there any discipline winger who is better than Willian right now. The only player on top of my head right now is Mane. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NikkiCFC 8,317 Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 Yes Pepe went to Arsenal but guys I rate highly like Zaha, Sancho, Chiesa, Lozano didn't move this summer which is awesome news for us. Next summer I'm sure we will upgrade on Willian and Pedro with some of them. Vesper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJBOfficial 8 Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 11 hours ago, MoroccanBlue said: Willian is essentially one of the reasons we’ve done so poorly in Europe. The board look to him as the standard. Honestly baffles me how there are still people who defend this fraud. 5 league goals a season on average. FIVE. Should’ve been gone after 2017. A lot of things should’ve happened in 2017. A transfer window that has essentially fucked us from the brilliance of our board. Yep, Willian with over twice as many CL goals as Hazard is the reason we’re poor in Europe 🙃 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,161 Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 12 hours ago, NikkiCFC said: Yes Pepe went to Arsenal but guys I rate highly like Zaha, Sancho, Chiesa, Lozano didn't move this summer which is awesome news for us. Next summer I'm sure we will upgrade on Willian and Pedro with some of them. fingers crossed the only wingers I truly rated (who are actually available, even if next year) are (no order) Pepe gone João Félix gone all the rest are still at their clubs! Mbappe (and I would use him as a CF tbh) is not going to renew at PSG Jadon Sancho still there Zaha still there (and again, I want him as a CF) Iñaki Williams still there and now is really a fulltime CF Anthony Martial still there (CF play again) Vinícius Júnior still there (Real has FIVE left wingers, lol) Ousmane Dembélé still there, Barca would need to lower their price Leroy Sane still there unless Bayern blows up their bank, which they will not, and Pep will never let him go here anyway Chiesa still there Mikel Oyarzabal still there (shockingly) Hirving Lozano still there (amazingly) Samuel Chukwueze still there (also surprisingly) speed burner, only Mbappe and Williams are faster for sure on this list, maybe Sane and Dembélé Ante Rebic still there (is really more of a SS) Talisca still there , has moved from AMF to winger and CF more (between 3 leagues and also CL and EL, has scored 72 goals and has 40 assists in his last 125 games) Richarlison still there, and not sold yet on him for the insane price Everton would want so only TWO have moved, and Felix is more of an SS and AMF than a winger anyway that said, Pepe WAS my number one RW want, I will admit that stings, but Sancho can probably be better NikkiCFC 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicco 927 Posted August 18, 2019 Share Posted August 18, 2019 I'd put any talkchelsea member playing instead of this total fraud and we would still be looking better. Fucking useless afro. NikkiCFC 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milan 17,956 Posted August 18, 2019 Share Posted August 18, 2019 He lost his buddy Luiz the clown, now he should get fucking lost. Atomiswave 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLion. 21,491 Posted August 18, 2019 Share Posted August 18, 2019 That was easily the worst substitute appearance I have ever seen. He will quite rightly be our fourth winger when CHO is back (and may that happen sooner rather than later). The Rising Sun 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Rising Sun 711 Posted August 18, 2019 Share Posted August 18, 2019 looked like he didnt want to play. no running. closing down. no interest whatsoever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Mikel OBE 4,920 Posted August 18, 2019 Share Posted August 18, 2019 11 minutes ago, The Rising Sun said: looked like he didnt want to play. no running. closing down. no interest whatsoever. he looked like he was trying too hard in a match that had got away from us. If you want to see a winger who didnt want to be out there today then look at Pulisic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alabama 1,992 Posted August 18, 2019 Share Posted August 18, 2019 Lol... Legendary fraud.... Can't wait for Callum to come back quick so he can be relegated to our 4th choice winger... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! DDA 9,937 Posted August 18, 2019 Popular Post! Share Posted August 18, 2019 The day this clown leaves Chelsea is the day I can move forward with my life. lucio, Mufassir08, kellzfresh and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoroccanBlue 5,380 Posted August 18, 2019 Share Posted August 18, 2019 39 minutes ago, Alabama said: Lol... Legendary fraud.... Can't wait for Callum to come back quick so he can be relegated to our 4th choice winger... 5th, after Barkley. Brasilians everywhere must be laughing at us. Alabama 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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