Blue Colored Sky 1,807 Posted April 19, 2015 Share Posted April 19, 2015 Hi friend!I'm talking about 22 million pounds of amount by signing Koke because lately was mentioned in Spain that if Koke asks for a move to Atletico Madrid this summer they no they were going to require payment of his clause (44 million pounds).Hmm are you sure about this ? It is something well known or pure speculation ? Because it literally changes the whole scenario now.********************RE Isco : would love him. He's magician and has impressive workrate in him. We certainly need 2 quality midfielders. The Koke + Isco bundle sounds ridiculous. Though even Isco + Schneiderlin combo would do for me. We surely have the money to pull something like this in the summer.Hope that Real want Pogba, then Isco seems natural player that they're going to sacrifice. We were interested in him previously, scouts probably have big dossier about him, so there's every bit of chance that we come back after him like we always do if there's an opportunity. Reddish-Blue 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nadavTKL 1,787 Posted April 19, 2015 Share Posted April 19, 2015 There's really one question, and its not about Isco who would give us just what we need - an option to create possession, another player next to Cesc who could dictate our game.So the question is what we could expect from Mourinho when his midfield will be Cesc-Matic-Isco. Will he build our entire game around this trio? we all remember he did it with Cesc-Matic-Oscar in the start of the season, but he throw this trio -and the game we played around them- away by now. Will he feel comfortable enough in the big games with this midfield?In that aspect, actually Gundogan sounds to me like the most secure option. He can sit back, he can let Cesc go forword, while given us option for possession with his technics and smartness, point is that he's a pure CM unlike Isco or Pogba. But its really about our manager and what he prefers. stroey and Blue-in-me-Veins 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue-in-me-Veins 4,067 Posted April 19, 2015 Share Posted April 19, 2015 @nadavTKL, Yeah that's a very interesting question, that i think we know the question to. If we remember last year, our pivot players in big games were Luiz-Matic. The more i think about it, the more i believe we'll go all-out for Pogba, and that Isco isn't really on our radar.Also, had a dream we signed Bastian Schweinsteiger & Reus lol. Chelsea Legend 11 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelsea? 892 Posted April 19, 2015 Share Posted April 19, 2015 Since cesc likes to attack so often, idk if isco would be a fit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iseah100 5,612 Posted April 19, 2015 Share Posted April 19, 2015 Since cesc likes to attack so often, idk if isco would be a fitYea, that wouldn't help Matic at all. I think Schneiderlin would be better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nadavTKL 1,787 Posted April 19, 2015 Share Posted April 19, 2015 @nadavTKL, Yeah that's a very interesting question, that i think we know the question to. If we remember last year, our pivot players in big games were Luiz-Matic. The more i think about it, the more i believe we'll go all-out for Pogba, and that Isco isn't really on our radar.Also, had a dream we signed Bastian Schweinsteiger & Reus lol. Pogba? surprise me to see that people still dont know who he is. Pogba is not a classic CM to play in a pivot. He likes to go fowrard just like Isco. Matic-Luiz and Matic-Pogba is very different. You'll get nothing out of Pogba if you ask him to sit back. If he'll come, Cesc will be the one who sits back more. Pogba will be our Oscar, thats where is future is at.There are three "brackets" for midfielders this summer:1. Pogba, Isco - players who'll play in front of Cesc (like Oscar), because their big advantages (along with great skills on the ball) are their dribble, the penetration, the ability to score (for Pogba) and assist (for Isco).2. Thiago, Gundogan - players who'll most of the time play next to Cesc, but will give Cesc the option to get forword. They are more "defensive" than Isco or Pogba, they'll most of the time sit back and dictate the game with Cesc (i would call them "possession monsters")3. Schneiderlin - players of his kind will help Matic in stoping the opponents. In aspects of playing the ball and keeping possesion they will offer a better option than Ramires/Zouma, but not like the players i mentioned in 1 and 2.There is also Koke, who is between 1 and 2. I wouldnt put him in the same bracket as Isco and Pogba because his contribution in attack, his penetration is'nt close to be that good. And i wouldnt put him in the same bracket as Thiago and Gundogan, because he's not a player who dictates the game from the back. He's a player who does the little-big things around the pitch, if its passing, if its keeping the ball, if its defending. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supporter 3,088 Posted April 19, 2015 Share Posted April 19, 2015 Hmm are you sure about this ? It is something well known or pure speculation ? Because it literally changes the whole scenario now.********************RE Isco : would love him. He's magician and has impressive workrate in him. We certainly need 2 quality midfielders. The Koke + Isco bundle sounds ridiculous. Though even Isco + Schneiderlin combo would do for me. We surely have the money to pull something like this in the summer.Hope that Real want Pogba, then Isco seems natural player that they're going to sacrifice. We were interested in him previously, scouts probably have big dossier about him, so there's every bit of chance that we come back after him like we always do if there's an opportunity.Hi friend!Not totally sure, but for a couple of weeks ago several newspapers in Spain say that the first offer of us could be 20 million pounds and that would be the initial amount to start negotiating.Although it might be more money, but I think with the feet on the ground perhaps 44 million is a lot and 20 million too little. I would bet 30 million pounds as a reasonable figure to start negotiating seriouslyI think it would be interesting to try again a loan with Atletico de Madrid as we did with Courtois. Maybe Atletico were delighted to have Nathan Ake, Salah or Kallas on loan. And maybe Mikel or Romeu as transfers. That could lower the final price of Koke.I agree that having the Isco + Koke pack would be fantastic. With Financial Fair Play rules we have to thinking about the future and sign young but established players. Isco and Koke have 22 years, that's what we need.Regards. Blue Colored Sky 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supporter 3,088 Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 Arsenal, Man United and Chelsea on RED ALERT as Isco hints at Real Madrid exit. ISCO has made it clear he is extremely unhappy with the way things are going for him at Real Madrid.http://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/football/438309/Isco-Man-Utd-Arsenal-Chelsea-transfer-newsYesterday Isco spoke after the game Real Madrid – Atletico de Madrid and he affirmed to be "“I am more than hurt, so I'm not very happy” " because of the way that Ancelotti has treated him. Yesterday and today in Spain it is said that he would have decided to leave Real Madrid this summer. I think Isco would be an option rather interesting and Real Madrid would ask for him between 28 and 32 million pounds as final price. (Isco would be a perfect option).To me Isco would be the best partner for Hazard. Regards. mediator and stroey 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fernando 6,585 Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 If thats true hope mourinho goes for him. supporter, Open and mediator 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! supporter 3,088 Posted April 23, 2015 Popular Post! Share Posted April 23, 2015 If thats true hope mourinho goes for him.Hi friend!Yes, I think Jose should bet heavily on him. In these two seasons with Ancelotti at Real Madrid Isco has significantly improved his defensive performance, which together with his genuine quality of offensive aspects make him an absolutely enormous player.Before Isco was a great player whose big deficit was the defensive. Maybe too anarchic because it is the type of player who seems destined to be an artist with the ball than a player collectively committed to a team. But now it has completely changed and Isco is a very reliable player that perfectly adapt it to the technical requirements of Jose and could form a formidable pair with Eden.I put the video of yesterday where Isco says these words which appear in the link. Isco's words are since 1:30 in the video. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Translation from Spanish to English.Journalist. Well, Isco, what from now on what (you expect?). With injuries (from your teammates) you've been entered (on the team), it is true that you had lost the place (on the team), emotionally, personally, regardless of joy for this classification (to the next round of Champions League) , How do you feel with your role at Real Madrid ?.Isco. Well, it is true that cost me a good a little, but that's normal after so many months playing it everything and suddenly I stopped playing, and ...Journalist. Hurt? Hurt is the word ?.Isco. No ... do not hurt ... well ... not very happy, I believed I was doing a good job ... Anyway, the team is very strong, Real Madrid is very complicated, there is much competition and I believe that competition makes become better all.----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------(IMO) I think Isco has a very serious face when talking about his situation at Real Madrid that makes me think he may be angry about his situation at Real Madrid.Isco can have a level of Galactico in the near future, but in Real Madrid (especially with Florentino Perez) Spanish players have very difficult to find their place in offensive positions.With Real Madrid he plays as a midfielder, but with Spain he plays like N.10. and I think that's his best position. To me Isco is pure N.10. classic. A dreamlike player.Regards. Fernando, stroey, mediator and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kellzfresh 7,229 Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 His technique is natural, it's hazard and thiago levels technique, it's the real deal. The more of his type of players in our team, we won't even need too much tactics to win games because like hazard, they can win games on their own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! The Skipper 20,609 Posted April 24, 2015 Popular Post! Share Posted April 24, 2015 His technique is natural, it's hazard and thiago levels technique, it's the real deal. The more of his type of players in our team, we won't even need too much tactics to win games because like hazard, they can win games on their own.Imagine having those 3 players in your team. Thiago at CM, Hazard at LW and Isco at CAM. supporter, kellzfresh, nadavTKL and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! Beepu 1,714 Posted April 24, 2015 Popular Post! Share Posted April 24, 2015 If he is available in the summer, wouldn't hurt to try and get him. Absolutely love his ability on the ball, we need someone else other than Hazard that can change games. blu35_army, Open, supporter and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLyon 9,359 Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 Imagine having those 3 players in your team. Thiago at CM, Hazard at LW and Isco at CAM.Add Veratti and you get Barca 2.0 kellzfresh and Open 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 Imagine having those 3 players in your team.Thiago at CM, Hazard at LW and Isco at CAM.lets get reus/bale along with varane and make a world 11. supporter 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ulvhedin 526 Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 What do you think about his controlling the game? Ive heard some complaints that he is slowing the game too much by hogging the ball unnecesserily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonsFinest 692 Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 What do you think about his controlling the game? Ive heard some complaints that he is slowing the game too much by hogging the ball unnecesserily.He is a creative player with vision, so it is natural. I believe he'd do good. I was watching the Atletico game and he seems to have shit loads of stamina and wants to be everywhere. James was the same. I think that's why the ripped Atletico so much. Unlike Bale who mostly looks for balls on the wing and doesn't track back. I remember Isco making one or two perfect slyding tackles. Obviously he was doing that to impress Ancelotti, BUT we know that Mourinho can influence a player to give it his all, and considering I have a crush on him ever since Malaga and those keepy-ups against Valencia, I'd take him in a heart beat. Only thing that bothers me, is if Jose is willing to play him, Fabregas and Matic. Hopefully, yes. I don't see many teams needing Isco, a part from us, to be fair. Who else needs him? Maybe just PSG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mufassir08 2,400 Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 Isco and Hazard would form a better partnership than Hazard and Mata's. Just the thught of having Isco and Hazard in the same team is giving me an orgasm......... kellzfresh, TheIceMan, Stingray and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! stroey 2,525 Posted April 24, 2015 Popular Post! Share Posted April 24, 2015 He is a creative player with vision, so it is natural. I believe he'd do good. I was watching the Atletico game and he seems to have shit loads of stamina and wants to be everywhere. James was the same. I think that's why the ripped Atletico so much. Unlike Bale who mostly looks for balls on the wing and doesn't track back. I remember Isco making one or two perfect slyding tackles. Obviously he was doing that to impress Ancelotti, BUT we know that Mourinho can influence a player to give it his all, and considering I have a crush on him ever since Malaga and those keepy-ups against Valencia, I'd take him in a heart beat. Only thing that bothers me, is if Jose is willing to play him, Fabregas and Matic. Hopefully, yes. I don't see many teams needing Isco, a part from us, to be fair. Who else needs him? Maybe just PSG.Mou has played Oscar, Matic and Cesc a lot together this year. And Isco has showed he could also do the defensive duties when needed, so I think he can easily replace Oscar in the starting line up as our 10. For big games, Mou probably will play Cesc more advanced with a defensive partner for Matic, which could move Isco out wide or just on the bench as an attacking option. For the reported 30M he would be a bargain. If we add him to our squad, as many other said, we finally have someone who can attack opponents together with Eden, which will benefit our whole team. LondonsFinest, kellzfresh, 1chelsea and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nadavTKL 1,787 Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 For big games, Mou probably will play Cesc more advanced with a defensive partner for Matic, which could move Isco out wide or just on the bench as an attacking option.If that will be the case, Mou shouldnt get Isco. Imo we have to get a AM/CM who would play next to Matic and Cesc in midfield in the big games too. Elite teams keep playing the regular line up every game, you can change the tactics, but imo the best team needs to be the same in games against Hull and in games against Bayern. If not, thats Oscar/Ramires all over again, Oscar for Hull and Ramires for Bayern. And personnaly i dont want Ramires or Kondogbia or Imblua or Schniderlin in our midfield in the big games, i want the third CM to be brilliant on the ball, and quick thinking - Koke, Pogba, Gundogan. Thats why i have questions about Isco, If we get Koke or Pogba i know Mou could and probably would play them next to Matic-Cesc in every game because of their physics (Pogba) and work rate (Koke), im not so sure he'll do that with Isco.Pogba/Koke+Isco would probably be perfect, Isco could play in the RW spot. Its not his best position, but he's too good to give up on.And i agree that Hazard+Thiago+Isco in one team is amazing, probably 3 of the players i like to watch the most. And i think they remind each other when they are on the ball, stroey and !Hazard! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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