haranr 485 Posted June 18, 2013 Share Posted June 18, 2013 Mata reads the game far better than Eden, but Eden is far more dynamic on the ball. Again, you're somewhat comparing apples and oranges.I was acutally comparing Mata to Isco. But about Hazard is clear. Mata might "read the game better" but Hazard is a better player. I am not trying to compare but If I must Hazard is better no dought. Hazard is a better dribbler, shooter, weak footed,strength, balace, pace, skill.Mata is a better crosser, passerThe players who got what Hazard has over Mata will always be named as the best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pacquiao 1,834 Posted June 18, 2013 Share Posted June 18, 2013 Mata is amazing, but Hazard will be at a different level to Mata in a year or two, Hazard will reach a level that none of Mata, Isco, Oscar or De Bruyne will reach imo, They all are or will become world class players but imo Hazard has more potential than any of them to be a future Ballon D'or winner and one of the all time greats. yuvala, Mouri_Matic and haranr 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haranr 485 Posted June 18, 2013 Share Posted June 18, 2013 Mata is amazing, but Hazard will be at a different level to Mata in a year or two, Hazard will reach a level that none of Mata, Isco, Oscar or De Bruyne will reach imo, They all are or will become world class players but imo Hazard has more potential than any of them to be a future Ballon D'or winner and one of the all time greats.I am not sure Isco can't reach Hazard's level. I don't like that but he has really really improved. He is something special like Hazard was in Lille we must wathc out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mouri_Matic 560 Posted June 18, 2013 Share Posted June 18, 2013 I am not sure Isco can't reach Hazard's level. I don't like that but he has really really improved. He is something special like Hazard was in Lille we must wathc out.One thing Isco can't and probably never be able to beat Hazard is pace though The guy is one of the fastest player in the world Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haranr 485 Posted June 18, 2013 Share Posted June 18, 2013 One thing Isco can't and probably never be able to beat Hazard is pace though The guy is one of the fastest player in the worldSure but Inestia which is known to be the 3rd best player in the world also hasn't got the ability to beat Hazard's pace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted June 18, 2013 Share Posted June 18, 2013 So am I right in thinking that some of you say that Isco is already on Mata's level? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yuvala 2,167 Posted June 18, 2013 Share Posted June 18, 2013 So am I right in thinking that some of you say that Isco is already on Mata's level?Actually I dont think I've seen anyone here actually saying that.Just that IN A FEW YEARS he might be better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magic weeds 446 Posted June 18, 2013 Share Posted June 18, 2013 While at it, we should maybe look at Bernard Anício Caldeira Duarte. Pacquiao 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yuvala 2,167 Posted June 18, 2013 Share Posted June 18, 2013 Isco thread or Mata&Hazard thread ???Isco&Mata thread.Masco (?) The Skipper 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted June 18, 2013 Share Posted June 18, 2013 Actually I dont think I've seen anyone here actually saying that.Just that IN A FEW YEARS he might be better.Thor is pretty much saying that Isco's already on Mata's level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haranr 485 Posted June 18, 2013 Share Posted June 18, 2013 Thor is pretty much saying that Isco's already on Mata's level.How?!! He clearly says that nobody thinks Isco is already on Mata's level. Read. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pacquiao 1,834 Posted June 18, 2013 Share Posted June 18, 2013 While at it, we should maybe look at Bernard Anício Caldeira Duarte.I agree get rid or Moses and/or Marin and sign Bernard! the kid has alot of potential much more than those two! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! The Skipper 20,609 Posted June 18, 2013 Popular Post! Share Posted June 18, 2013 How?!! He clearly says that nobody thinks Isco is already on Mata's level. Read.YOU READ. And yes, I'm saying that ISCO is in fact level with Mata. Dion, The only place to be, JDY and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOSS 372 Posted June 18, 2013 Share Posted June 18, 2013 The Spanish team as a whole is successful exactly due to the way they nurture and bring up their youth players. There is a reason he is in the U21 squad and not straight into the top team. Its the way they do it with all their players. Look at how the English team tries to pluck from the youth ranks which results in nothing but trouble and talents falling off. Spain have a great mentoring system, that clearly is working since they have been the dominant nation in football for more than half this decade. And yes, I'm saying that ISCO is in fact level with Mata. Plenty laughed and berated me on here when I stated that Hazard was a better player than Mata prior to coming to Chelsea. Look how that one turned out... Isco isn't as good as Hazard, nor will he ever be IMO, but he certainly is as good as Mata, and hes most definitely a better player than Oscar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haranr 485 Posted June 18, 2013 Share Posted June 18, 2013 YOU READ.My bad man I thought you were saying Yuvalal thinks that, Sorry The Skipper, yuvala and JDY 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bir_CFC 3,455 Posted June 18, 2013 Share Posted June 18, 2013 Isco fits Spain's tiki-taka better than Mata imo. I am a little surprised Barca isn't in for him, but I think City is also a very good choice for him because their play style will suit him more than ours or Real Madrid.And, I also agree that Hazard would turn out to be a better player than Mata, he was arguably already ahead by last season's end but DEM STATS by Mata are just impossible to ignore. I mean other than Messi and Ronaldo those stats he put up last year were unreal!!At the end of the day, goals and assists make the difference and there isn't any attacking mid better than Mata imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OReillyD36 311 Posted June 18, 2013 Share Posted June 18, 2013 Arguing who is better between Mata and Hazard is like arguing that your right nut is bigger than your left, who cares they're both yours. As for Isco, I think he'll end up at Real wouldn't put it past us if we bid for him though. Is it true we have some sort of working agreement with Malaga over players due to the Piazon loan ? or something to that affect. SinineUltra and Mufassir08 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelsea? 892 Posted June 18, 2013 Share Posted June 18, 2013 That's great and all but if you actually think hes the better player... then... well yeah. most ppl saw Eden as a Balon dor type player. I don't think you can find o post were anyone would say Mata was significantly the better player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted June 18, 2013 Share Posted June 18, 2013 Can we get back on topic, please. There is absolutely no need for those pointless Mata vs Hazard 'discussions'. OReillyD36 and Muzchap 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLion. 21,491 Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 Isco thread or Mata&Hazard thread ???What, so we're ONLY allowed to talk about Isco in this thread?Meaning we can't compare him to other players, or discuss where he would fit into our team?Yeah, good one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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