Mufassir08 2,400 Posted November 27, 2012 Share Posted November 27, 2012 I would be more happy watching bosingwa play right back for us regularly rather then torres playing week in week out and thats saying something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The only place to be 11,313 Posted November 27, 2012 Share Posted November 27, 2012 Torres gets the most support at the bridge. When he does something good we all chant TORRES!, even if it is like a good pass or getting round 1 player, in the hope his confidence will be boosted. My attitude to torres, has been based on a year and a half of hoping with pretty much nothing coming back. He can only give 100% but it is one of the most frustrating things to watch.Also, whenever anyone wears our shirt i will support them, but that doesn't mean i cant hope that we put him on the bench for a few games and play sturridge (if he is fit) as it will be more beneficial to the team.Too true.Torres gets applauded for doing very basic things. The expectations of him are so low that if he does things that you'd expect of any other striker, the crowd are overjoyed.The crowd wants him to succeed and if that means applauding him when he manages to control a ball and lay it off, they'll do that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mceachran 109 Posted November 27, 2012 Share Posted November 27, 2012 I would be more happy watching bosingwa play right back for us regularly rather then torres playing week in week out and thats saying something.how...dare...you... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waterfall 893 Posted November 27, 2012 Share Posted November 27, 2012 how...dare...you...Not sure if you are being sarcastic, but I would definitely rather have Bosingwa at RB than Torres up front. Hell I'd almost rather have Bosingwa as our striker instead of Torres.Btw on topic of being fair to Torres, I bet the same people who feel Torres is being treated unfairly bashed Malouda for being shit. It's a shame that Malouda has to train with U21s because hes deemed not good enough while Torres is given the start every week despite being worse than Malouda has ever been BOSS 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted November 27, 2012 Share Posted November 27, 2012 OptaJoe @OptaJoe 44% - Chelsea's PL win percentage with Fernando Torres starting since he joined, compared to 63% without him. Peg. The Skipper and Las7 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdenHazard 163 Posted November 27, 2012 Share Posted November 27, 2012 We praise him when he has a shot, Or does a little pass. For a £50million striker, We should be praising him for bagging a hatrick or winning us the game. Not a simple pass which Ross Turnbull could probably play. I understand its motivating, and likely to help him. But its all we seem to do. The Mak 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stingray 9,441 Posted November 27, 2012 Share Posted November 27, 2012 OptaJoe @OptaJoe 44% - Chelsea's PL win percentage with Fernando Torres starting since he joined, compared to 63% without him. Peg. Sigh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ja1 1,166 Posted November 27, 2012 Share Posted November 27, 2012 It's striking how little benefit Torres is getting from all the effort he's putting in his games.IMO if there is one thing you cannot blame him... it must be his working attitude. He might get a lot of cash, but at least he runs his brains out every game.It's just sooo strange how such a talented player is getting so little result from all his actions. Probably the only key to this problems is: Confidence!Something hopefully Benitez is able to-rive in Torres' head!!Nevertheless I think he's given way too much credit (probably by the business man in Roman => hard to blame him... a 50million pounds investment needs to bring something in return!). Torres is benching Sturridge, Moses(more or less), Piazon & Lukaku (last season). I think it's more than fair to give these guys their chances as well!The thing is recently against WBA and City he's barely even trying when attacking. Blue Armour 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atholy 1,293 Posted November 27, 2012 Share Posted November 27, 2012 The thing is recently against WBA and City he's barely even trying when attacking.You could say anyone can have a bad day... But in Torress' case... that's like throwing extra oil on the fire Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! Tomo 21,751 Posted November 28, 2012 Popular Post! Share Posted November 28, 2012 Its just unbelievable people are still using the service excuse, i mean seriously it is baffling i just cannot believe my eyes. We needed to spend £76m on three creative midfielders just to get Torres scoring on a semi decent rate. Service works both ways and to say Torres doesn't do his bit is a massive understatement.Just watch his attitude in games it's terrible, doesn't move, stands around, gets tackled, its like playing with 10 men, infact it is, i hope Rafa made those comments of him not getting service is for show, the reason he isn't getting the service is because he doesn't do his bit or is it Mata's fault for not playing a perfect pass to a statue? I caught a mere 4 minutes of the Leti game after ours and my god seeing Falcao was refreshing, a forward that moved and made himself available, i thought i died and gone to heaven.Face it Torres is done, no romantic reunion with Rafa or romantic return to Liverpool will change anything, he is finished and you know the sad thing is? he will probably go to Liverpool this January on loan flop and even further decline leaving us a Torres at rock bottom next summer.The sad thing was he was genuinely the one of the (if not the) best forward in the world back in 07-09, his game was so pleasing on the eye now he is just an Akinfenwa without strength (and no im not joking, i genuinely mean it). termninja, Steve, Reddish-Blue and 7 others 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YouNameIt 1,511 Posted November 28, 2012 Share Posted November 28, 2012 The three never had a good game together though , oh well i'm not trolling , it's just your and other people behaviour towards Torres is really poorOf course they had you moron. Put a real striker infront of them though and your pants will be wet. BlueLion. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Backstreet09 499 Posted November 28, 2012 Share Posted November 28, 2012 Of course they had you moron. Put a real striker infront of them though and your pants will be wet.oh lol , you guys rate Sturridge so fucking much , that didnt changed anything ? Infact put Falcao instead of Torres , he would fail like every single striker has failed at Chelsea , Mourinho constructed a system around Drogba , which worked only because of Drogba's strength , though Drogba never scored many goals , it was always the midfielders scoring. AVB came , he tried to change that system , but he got sacked due to his communication and handling players problems . RDM came then he reverted the Mourinho system back , which didnt worked and he got sacked . It's not the fucking strikers problems here and i know Torres dont make any runs now , and do you know why ? cause the fucking midfield never passes him a single through ball . He used to make runs at the begining but now he has realised he wont get the ball , that's why he comes deep to collect the ball , and when he first joined chelsea , remember he gave a contreversial statement to a spanish newspaper or TV , about our fucking midfield . Not much has changed =P Benitez in his first match saw this , and he'll work on it and you would witness totally different and better chelsea =PP.S I'm not TROLLING Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TorontoChelsea 4,064 Posted November 28, 2012 Share Posted November 28, 2012 oh lol , you guys rate Sturridge so fucking much , that didnt changed anything ? Infact put Falcao instead of Torres , he would fail like every single striker has failed at Chelsea ,P.S I'm not TROLLINGI mostly agree with you. Torres is the scapegoat now so he's being blamed for everything. (That's the way it goes. There is one player who is deemed "a problem" and draws the ire of the fans). Now, Torres has definitely been very very bad with us. Mostly awful, but the system we play is a poor fit for any striker. Our attack is based on running at defenders. We don't get the ball into dangerous areas with any regularity. It's not like we're getting the ball to Torres in great areas and he's screwing up. He's screwing up 30 feet from the net with 2 defenders in front of him. Yes, he doesn't get into the proper areas enough, but it's not like we provide regular crosses in there anyway. We haven't had a high scoring striker since 2009-2010 and that's not all just Torres. Drogba scored 16 goals in his last 60 league games with us. Anelka scored 7 goals in his last 41 games. I don't think anyone can argue that Torres hasn't been poor, but people who think that getting a new striker in will suddenly fix everything are being delusional. Our offensive issues go far beyond Torres and as our system lies right now, no striker would have prolonged success. robsblubot, Ryan Fong and Thor 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Backstreet09 499 Posted November 28, 2012 Share Posted November 28, 2012 Drogba scored 16 goals in his last 60 league games with us. Anelka scored 7 goals in his last 41 games. I don't think anyone can argue that Torres hasn't been poor, but people who think that getting a new striker in will suddenly fix everything are being delusional. Our offensive issues go far beyond Torres and as our system lies right now, no striker would have prolonged success.I know Torres is performing shit , but anyone has ever wonder why he drops deep to collect the ball ? why he doesnt remain centre ? because that excludes him from the system we are playing , To remain involved he drops deep to collect the ball , he plays quick 1 2 pass with anyone , and run towards the goal , thinking he would get the ball back but damn he never gets that ball Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Severinb 309 Posted November 28, 2012 Share Posted November 28, 2012 'Just talking about little things; what in the player's opinion was wrong, what is right. I have been working with Torres, and with the others.'We have to improve some players physically and they will maybe come back to the strength that they had. Torres had very real pace and it is not because he is getting old, or injuries - he has to train in a way that will maybe suit him and we will have find this way. There is some work in the gym, on his strength that maybe he needs to do again.'The other area the manager is beginning to refine is the movement of the players on the pitch, in many cases small alterations.'On Tuesday we were working with Torres and with Oscar and we are trying to find this understanding,' Benitez said. 'But it will take some time. We were also working on some little movements for David Luiz , for Ashley Cole , for Eden Hazard and others - we are trying to improve each player a little bit but then we have to put them together.I really really hope rafa can bring him back, i have to say i am a torres supporter but a club like chelsea needs an in form striker and if he can not get back to his old days he will have to go! There is no other solution! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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