Fernando Torres

[lucio 5,404]

he makes a habit out of scoring against pub teams like nordjaeland , leeds , brentford , monterey ect. we need a striker who can perform in the big games (possibly ba) , the obvious choice for this would be falcao - he has scored 3 goals in 2 europa league finals and has scored vs barca and madrid,

[TacticalBlues 2,817]

Hazard on Torres:

"[Torres] must be one of the most criticised football players in the world, yet he keeps the good work going," Hazard told The Sun. "I'm impressed.

"People expect 10 goals from him every game. We are lucky to have two top-class forwards with him and Demba Ba. We must make the most of them."

[Jase 43,479]

He's probably just playing for the contract and ensure that he doesn't get thrown out in the summer..

[Eggman 118]

"Give a man a mask and he will show you his true face".

Imagine, just for a moment, that all his past fuck-ups are "only" psychological after all... That, in his next team, he would be faster, and sharper, and clinical in his finishing once again. Wouldn't that be something?

When you see him play the last 2 games, I think it's better than his previous spells of slightly better football. He actually seems more determined, more keen to get in dangerous areas, to take players on,... Don't know if he'll ever get back to the player he was, I strongly doubt it considering the physical knee problem, but still, I find the idea that it was all "in his head" rather stunning. And the fact that he can play fast and sharp for even one match indicates that the problem is not merely a physical one (if your knee is bust, it's always bust, and not suddenly better for only one match ).

[DH1988 1,199]

I'll support him if he's in the team until the end of the season, if he's here next season, I'll support him, just as I do Ross Turnbull when he's in goal.

[The Mak 4,459]

He's probably just playing for the contract and ensure that he doesn't get thrown out in the summer..

I just realised, he's like a stripper.

I'm serious. Because just like a stripper, he recent performances are just a tease, nothing more. As if he's saying to Roman: "Hey big boy, this could all be yours. ", while giving him a glimpse of his thigh.

But in reality we know he's finished, so neither we or Roman will get the full show or a happy ending...

@The Mak, Isn't it £200,000 per week?

Whatever it is, he isn't even worth 20k a week!

[Santiago. 1,500]

I'll support him if he's in the team until the end of the season, if he's here next season, I'll support him, just as I do Ross Turnbull when he's in goal.

Because Ross Turnbull is on 175k p/w and when he's not playing, makes claims that he didn't care whether we won or lost.

[robsblubot 3,237]

I think people over exaggerate his pace loss - he's still pretty fast, always has been. 90% of his problems are mentally related.

fair enough, though I tend to think mental traits are exaggerated instead. Especially concerning confidence, it is more of a consequence than a cause.

Not long ago, Torres would go down on minimal contact, but recently he has been making runs with pace and power. His confidence will go up as he successfully makes these runs and is able to beat opponents regularly.

I do agree, however, that a player who is mentally stronger would be able to cope with these a dip in form far more gracefully than Torres did.

Though I still remember what Liverpool (and Benitez) did to him: overplaying him and making him play through a number of injuries.

[The Mak 4,459]

"Give a man a mask and he will show you his true face".

Imagine, just for a moment, that all his past fuck-ups are "only" psychological after all... That, in his next team, he would be faster, and sharper, and clinical in his finishing once again. Wouldn't that be something?

Nooooooooooooo! This is exactly what he wants you to think! He got us to think this last season as well: "Things will be better for Fernando when he's the main man" etc.

See my stripper metaphor above.

[IliyaDamyanov 43]

Harry Redknapp: "That goal which Torres scored vs Barca and that corner which he won for Drogba's goal at the Allianz are worth £50m."

I think he is right . And If Torres scores more important goals for Chelsea to win FA CUP , Europa League and to finish in 3rd place and he will wants to fight for the striker position with Ba and Falcao , let him stay..

[DDA 9,570]

I will not even begin to entertain the idea that Torres is good enough for us now because he has somehow sneeked 18 goals against shit sides. He is still a sorry excuse for a world class footballer.

[Peace. 4,352]

He's probably just playing for the contract and ensure that he doesn't get thrown out in the summer..

You know what ? I fear he'll do a "malouda". Id est, playing decently, nay good, toward the end of the season, in order to tell the board "hey, I'm here, and I can be good for next year". Moreover, the ladyboy told that he wanted to stay here next season, to repay us fans, to shut critics and yada yada. That's exactly the same thing as Malouda was doing : playing "well" and put "pressure" on the board by giving interviews. These two facts concur together : that's manipulation — just like he did after the night in Munich, by crying like a baby that he wasn't happy and shit, in order to be given the keys of our attack. That will just work, unfortunatly...

[DONI. 1,291]

[termninja 5,290]

I still can't bring my head around at how the fuck has he scored 18 goals

[lucio 5,404]

I still can't bring my head around at how the fuck has he scored 18 goals

all against pub teams

[termninja 5,290]

all against pub teams

I've seen all of them, but it's still fascinating to hear it's 18

[The Skipper 20,593]

I still can't bring my head around at how the fuck has he scored 18 goals

It isn't that fascinating when you find out he's on over 50 appearances this season though.

[The Mak 4,459]

Only important goals I can pick from this list is Arsenal...and he only scored because of Koscielny and one of his brain farts. The United goal was completely cancelled out by his miss of the millennia that followed and I don't count the Barca goal for much, since we had pretty much won already. £50m and 175k+ a week to score against pub teams (and mainly at home)? I would've rather let Sturridge do that to be honest.

# Season Date Year Competition Opponent Score Result Venue

1 2010-11 23 April 2011 Premier League West Ham United 2-0 3-0 Stamford Bridge (Relegated)

2 2011-12 18 September 2011 Premier League Manchester United 1-3 1-3 Old Trafford (Missed opener)

3 2011-12 24 September 2011 Premier League Swansea City 1-0 4-1 Stamford Bridge (Sent Off)

4 2011-12 19 October 2011 UEFA Champions League Genk 2-0 5-0 Stamford Bridge (Belgian L)

5 2011-12 19 October 2011 UEFA Champions League Genk 3-0 5-0 Stamford Bridge (Belgian L)

6 2011-12 18 March 2012 FA Cup Leicester City 3-0 5-2 Stamford Bridge (Championship)

7 2011-12 18 March 2012 FA Cup Leicester City 4-1 5-2 Stamford Bridge (Championship)

8 2011-12 31 March 2012 Premier League Aston Villa 4-2 4-2 Villa Park (Near Relegation)

9 2011-12 24 April 2012 UEFA Champions League Barcelona 2-2 2-2 Nou Camp (One on one with Valdes+no defence)

10 2011-12 29 April 2012 Premier League Queens Park Rangers 3-0 6-1 Stamford Bridge (Near Relegation)

11 2011-12 29 April 2012 Premier League Queens Park Rangers 4-0 6-1 Stamford Bridge (Near Relegation)

12 2011-12 29 April 2012 Premier League Queens Park Rangers 5-0 6-1 Stamford Bridge (Near Relegation)

13 2012-13 12 August 2012 Community Shield Manchester City 1-0 2-3 Villa Park (Friendly)

14 2012-13 22 August 2012 Premier League Reading 3-2 4-2 Stamford Bridge (Near Relegation)

15 2012-13 25 August 2012 Premier League Newcastle United 2-0 2-0 Stamford Bridge (Near Relegation)

16 2012-13 25 September 2012 League Cup Wolverhampton Wanderers 5-0 6-0 Stamford Bridge (Championship)

17 2012-13 29 September 2012 Premier League Arsenal 1-0 2-1 Emirates Stadium

18 2012-13 06 October 2012 Premier League Norwich City 1-1 4-1 Stamford Bridge (2nd half of table)

19 2012-13 07 November 2012 UEFA Champions League Shakhtar Donetsk 1-0 3-2 Stamford Bridge (Keeper mistake)

20 2012-13 05 December 2012 UEFA Champions League Nordsjælland 2-0 6-1 Stamford Bridge (Danish L)

21 2012-13 05 December 2012 UEFA Champions League Nordsjælland 4-1 6-1 Stamford Bridge (Danish L)

22 2012-13 08 December 2012 Premier League Sunderland 1-0 3-1 Stadium of Light (Near Relegation)

23 2012-13 08 December 2012 Premier League Sunderland 2-0 3-1 Stadium of Light (Near Relegation)

24 2012-13 13 December 2012 FIFA Club World Cup Monterrey 2-0 3-1 Yokohama (Mexican L)

25 2012-13 19 December 2012 League Cup Leeds United 5-1 5-1 Elland Road (Championship)

26 2012-13 23 December 2012 Premier League Aston Villa 1-0 8-0 Stamford Bridge (Near Relegation)

27 2012-13 27 January 2013 FA Cup Brentford 2-2 2-2 Griffin Park (League 1)

28 2012-13 27 February 2013 FA Cup Middlesbrough 1-0 2-0 Riverside Stadium (Championship)

29 2012-13 14 March 2013 UEFA Europa League Steaua Bucharest 3-1 3-1 Stamford Bridge (Romanian L)

30 2012-13 4 April 2013 UEFA Europa League Rubin Kazan 1-0 3-1 Stamford Bridge (Russian L)

31 2012-13 4 April 2013 UEFA Europa League Rubin Kazan 3-1 3-1 Stamford Bridge (Russian L)

Edit: I've now made annotations in brackets for each team/game. So according to this, Torres' level seems to be the Championship/Europa League...