Fernando Torres

[hjperdeath 2,226]

Just to get back on the question why people give Torres abuse even when he's not playing. I can answer that.

It's quite simple really. Atleast for me, can't speak for other people. He annoys me.

Everytime i see Torres playing or sitting on the bench, even just looking at his thread pisses me off.

It's not just because he's a massive waste of money or that he's not good enough for us.

It's all the excuses i've heard. Tactics aren't right, not enough creativity, too much pressure on him because of Drogba, etc...

It was always something and it's never Torres his fault. Excuse after excuse. I'm tired of it. I want him out. Sooner the better.

Do i hate Torres? No i don't but i am annoyed by this whole situation and he's at the centre of it all.

+ the ridiculous fan support he still gets doesn't help.

This is the exact way to put it. Taken the words right off my mouth.

[Gilvorak 3,734]

There's a difference between criticizing someone's play and outright abusing your own players. Funny thing is if I went around this forum calling the same posters calling Torres these same names, I'd be banned in an instant.

It's understandable in the heat of a moment but he's not even playing yet he's still getting it.

Anyway it's on the mods to clean up the forum. They'll continue with their mindless trash as long as they continue to allow it.

EDIT: "The ridiculous fan support he still gets." BREAKING: FOOTBALL FANS SUPPORTING THEIR OWN PLAYERS SHOCKER

[hjperdeath 2,226]

There's a difference between criticizing someone's play and outright abusing your own players. Funny thing is if I went around this forum calling the same posters calling Torres these same names they are calling Nando I'd be banned.

It's understandable in the heat of a moment but he's not even playing yet he's still getting it.

Anyway it's on the mods to clean up the forum. They'll continue with their mindless trash as long as they continue to allow it.

EDIT: The ridiculous fan support he still gets. BREAKING: FOOTBALL FANS SUPPORTING THEIR OWN PLAYERS SHOCKER

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[Belgiannutt 3,201]

There's a difference between criticizing someone's play and outright abusing your own players. Funny thing is if I went around this forum calling the same posters calling Torres these same names, I'd be banned in an instant.

It's understandable in the heat of a moment but he's not even playing yet he's still getting it.

Anyway it's on the mods to clean up the forum. They'll continue with their mindless trash as long as they continue to allow it.

EDIT: "The ridiculous fan support he still gets." BREAKING: FOOTBALL FANS SUPPORTING THEIR OWN PLAYERS SHOCKER

First of all with abuse i meant complaining about him, not calling him names like cunt, etc... I'm not okay with that. Like i said i don't hate the guy.

About the bolded part. I was talking about the more extreme fans of his. It's 1 thing supporting a player, it's a whole other thing blaming everyone else for Torres his mistakes or whenever someone complains about him coming up with : he won us THAT corner or he scored THAT goal against Barcelona.

[The Skipper 20,593]

EDIT: "The ridiculous fan support he still gets." BREAKING: FOOTBALL FANS SUPPORTING THEIR OWN PLAYERS SHOCKER

Of course, but that still doesn't warrant the type of support Torres gets. Some fans speak as if Torres is as important as someone like Drogba when that's far from the truth.

[Kieran. 6,317]

Of course, but that still doesn't warrant the type of support Torres gets. Some fans speak as if Torres is as important as someone like Drogba when that's far from the truth.

B-b-but he won the corner which Drogba scored from

[bluesman2610 1,341]

I dunno maybe Torres wouldn't get the extreme support he does if the extreme hate didn't exsist.. I remember some members in this thread bad mouthing the mans children because of their strong dislike of Torres.. What have they done to WARRANT such abuse.. I feel points can still be made that he has not been good enough for us which is FACT without being derogatory towards the player or his family. It is a forum and everyone is encouraged to have an opinion just because they may not share the same views as you on Torres' contribution to the team does not mean to them that it is any less valid...

Torres is still not good enough for this team even after the half decent season he had last year and I would like him gone for 2 reason one his wages off the bill and two the fact that we have yet to sign a quality striker since then for fear of flopping or upsetting Torres.. He will be gone I feel sooner rather than later because Jose will have had a full season to work with him and will let him know by end of this year he is surplus to requirements. And when he does leave I will not wish him any ill will cause he came to do a job and it just didn't work out

[YouNameIt 1,511]

What really annoys me is the ammount of support he gets.

This guy should get the ammount of bashing that Mikel, Malouda and Kalou got TIMES FIFTY.

But no, for some reason people seem to think this guy is more important than anything. As if he's been a Chelsea fan and Chelsea player for a decade and done lots of great things for us and is now in a run of bad form.

NO, HE IS UPRIGHT SHIT AND I CANNOT SAY THIS ENOUGH; I WANT HIM GONE!

[Styles 9,790]

What really annoys me is the ammount of support he gets.

This guy should get the ammount of bashing that Mikel, Malouda and Kalou got TIMES FIFTY.

But no, for some reason people seem to think this guy is more important than anything. As if he's been a Chelsea fan and Chelsea player for a decade and done lots of great things for us and is now in a run of bad form.

NO, HE IS UPRIGHT SHIT AND I CANNOT SAY THIS ENOUGH; I WANT HIM GONE!

Bit of a theme there...

Just read a stat that Torres has more yellow/red cards (22) than he has Premier League goals (19) for Chelsea.

[YouNameIt 1,511]

Bit of a theme there...

Just read a stat that Torres has more yellow/red cards (22) than he has Premier League goals (19) for Chelsea.

But...he works hard? He does his best, right?

[Styles 9,790]

But...he works hard? He does his best, right?

Torres is the hardest working man in the world unlike those lazy players Drogba, Kalou, Malouda and Mikel

[kellzfresh 7,229]

22 cards, 19 epl goals looool. I never knew it was that bad. After being an expert scorer in the league for years. Smh

We shouldn't buy anyone who had his type of injury again.

He has improved this season, and is more hard working but seems to have so much bad luck that after 3 games in a row, he gets injured and starts to look for form again.

I step forward, 2 steps back

[lionsden 4,689]

It would be interesting to see how much of an influence is wages will have on our aspiration to get an elite forward in the summer. Considering it's virtually impossible to get rid of him due to his ridiculous wages and the financial constraints of ffp means we probably cannot afford to have a 180k pwk earner on the books as a mere squad player.

The only way to fix this mess is to develop a time machine

[sutro 1,026]

It would be interesting to see how much of an influence is wages will have on our aspiration to get an elite forward in the summer. Considering it's virtually impossible to get rid of him due to his ridiculous wages and the financial constraints of ffp means we probably cannot afford to have a 180k pwk earner on the books as a mere squad player.

The only way to fix this mess is to develop a time machine

This!

For me the worst part in the torres saga

He hold us back from buying a top striker with his ridiculous high wage and transfer fee

[cchuka 99]

How do you solve a problem like Fernando?

[lucio 5,418]

Bit of a theme there...

Just read a stat that Torres has more yellow/red cards (22) than he has Premier League goals (19) for Chelsea.

you cant say that. its super cringey. according to some hjper person anyway

[Tomo 21,733]

I dunno maybe Torres wouldn't get the extreme support he does if the extreme hate didn't exsist.. I remember some members in this thread bad mouthing the mans children because of their strong dislike of Torres.. What have they done to WARRANT such abuse.. I feel points can still be made that he has not been good enough for us which is FACT without being derogatory towards the player or his family. It is a forum and everyone is encouraged to have an opinion just because they may not share the same views as you on Torres' contribution to the team does not mean to them that it is any less valid...

Torres is still not good enough for this team even after the half decent season he had last year and I would like him gone for 2 reason one his wages off the bill and two the fact that we have yet to sign a quality striker since then for fear of flopping or upsetting Torres.. He will be gone I feel sooner rather than later because Jose will have had a full season to work with him and will let him know by end of this year he is surplus to requirements. And when he does leave I will not wish him any ill will cause he came to do a job and it just didn't work out

No offense but that's rubbish, even before one Chelsea fan gave up on him (i was one off the 1st, i wanted him gone as early as January 2012 and haven't budged since) there was still excuse after excuse for him, fair enough the first few months but ever since summer 11 the excuses became silly.

Put it this way, if a 3m signing from Vittese got the same minutes and chances he has with the same type off displays, he would probably be disliked on the same level as Bogarde.

As for the Torres and his kid thing, some member put up a gif off his son apparently trying to strike the ball but missing in the usual EOS lap off honour, talk about mountain out off a molehill, i slipped over taking a pen when i was a kid, didn't hear the end off it for months, was i getting abused to?

Yes the gif would have been better off not posted, but any other player and no one would have blinked let alone brought the matter back up months later.

[Blue Armour 4,278]

HOW THINGS HAVE CHANGED!!!

From minute 1 I was against this deal to even happen. Always had my reservation against him and the rumors that we would be breaking all transfer records just always made it a no-no for me.

But at that point of time, if u even expressed a doubt over torres, u generally would have got 50 notifocations in the next 5 minutes, 49 of them would be death threats and the other one would be calling u "a fucking plastic".

Even in 11-12, I remember how much ridicule I had to face when the great AVB started him over DD and I used to be shouting at the top of my voice.

But like I said, how much things have changed. The staunchest of torres supporters ( and I remenber a lot of them) have changed sides. But the point is can u blame them? Uptil last year, torres' performance showed his exact sentiment towards the club. He simply dint give a shit. Determination and effort my ass, he dint show the basic passion that u would associate with a player.

As for his contribution, only on this forum would u get an argument as silly as he won the corner which led to the goal when said to list out torres' accomplishments. He scored the goal against barca when he should have been defending his ass off. Instead he loses the ball twice ( one of those led to meireles sacrificing himself for the team and taking a yellow) and in the other one it LUCKILY ended as a goal. Goals against city and arsenal, well, after more than 3 years in a team and in a league which boasts of 6-7 big teams, when u can count a strikers important goals on your fingers, then u can guess what a flop he has been.

Anyways, coming back to this season, it has been a new torres. One who has worked hard, has had poor moments (missing a sitter against city) but also has had some good moments (like setting up our first goal moments later in the same city match and also scoring the goal towards the end as well as hitting the post).

There is no denying that it has been an improved torres that has played for us this season (like there could have been anything worse than what he was last season). But there is also no denying the fact that for someone who earns 175kpw and is supposed to be our no.1 striker, he simply is not good enough. He needs a new start as much as we need a new start from him. Simply put, he should not be in our squad for the next season.

Yep, exactly the same sentiments here. Remember how Drogba was almost a villain at one point?

The thing is, you can't forever live in the transfer windows. You have to look at player performances each season, and I have to say in 2013, Torres has been solid even if unspectacular.

The goal count looks really mediocre, but its not as if our manager is expecting any of his strikers to hit 20+. He knows he doesn't have a complete forward, so he keeps rotating.