The only place to be 11,313 Posted December 18, 2012 Share Posted December 18, 2012 I was never really a fan of him playing there. Go figure. He is just kind of (really) big and bullies people that's it. He isn't a great passer or anything, which is what I want. Cabaye and Moutinho are the perfect examples of the midfielder I really want.See I'd prefer a defensive midfielder who gets stuck in and dominates the ball. You can stick Luiz or Oscar alongside him if you want a distributor but I think we need to shore things up first, and yes that means that I essentially want him to replace Mikel although part of me wonders what Mikel would be like if he had less defensive duties. Cabaye and Moutinho would be great options alongside someone like that, although personally I think we have enough and I'd also be inclined to give Josh a go there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike 12,049 Posted December 18, 2012 Share Posted December 18, 2012 See I'd prefer a defensive midfielder who gets stuck in and dominates the ball. You can stick Luiz or Oscar alongside him if you want a distributor but I think we need to shore things up first, and yes that means that I essentially want him to replace Mikel although part of me wonders what Mikel would be like if he had less defensive duties. Cabaye and Moutinho would be great options alongside someone like that, although personally I think we have enough and I'd also be inclined to give Josh a go there.Cabaye and Moutinho do get stuck in, they'll win less headers and aren't as strong but they can make just as many tackles and interception as Fellaini. If I'm not mistaken Cabaye has one of the best averages for tackles and interceptions in the league as well as some great attacking stats. Cabaye is great defensivly and I think people underrate him because he isn't a hulking mass of muscle and power like Tioté, Fellaini, Viera, Essien etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo talks Blue 85 Posted December 18, 2012 Share Posted December 18, 2012 Why do I get a feeling this deal won't happen? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The only place to be 11,313 Posted December 18, 2012 Share Posted December 18, 2012 Cabaye and Moutinho do get stuck in, they'll win less headers and aren't as strong but they can make just as many tackles and interception as Fellaini. If I'm not mistaken Cabaye has one of the best averages for tackles and interceptions in the league as well as some great attacking stats. Cabaye is great defensivly and I think people underrate him because he isn't a hulking mass of muscle and power like Tioté, Fellaini, Viera, Essien etc.But in the role I see Fellaini playing, he actually has to drop back into defence and become a third centre-half at times, like Busquets at Barca. Don't get me wrong, I would have loved us to pick up Cabaye a few years ago for £5 million but I think the club have a type of player in mind for certain positions (look at Chalobah and Loftus-Cheek, or even Ake in the reserves/academy) and Fellaini fits that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike 12,049 Posted December 18, 2012 Share Posted December 18, 2012 But in the role I see Fellaini playing, he actually has to drop back into defence and become a third centre-half at times, like Busquets at Barca. Don't get me wrong, I would have loved us to pick up Cabaye a few years ago for £5 million but I think the club have a type of player in mind for certain positions (look at Chalobah and Loftus-Cheek, or even Ake in the reserves/academy) and Fellaini fits that.But who should be dropped to facilitate him? I think if he is bought he should be played the postion that he excels in which seems to be further up the pitch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nadavTKL 1,787 Posted December 18, 2012 Share Posted December 18, 2012 Cabaye and Moutinho are the perfect examples of the midfielder I really want.Agree about both, but what would you say about Oscar in this position instead of buying one of them?Im starting to think that Oscar wont have a place in the first 11 if we'll get that midfielder, becuase our next manager could not want to play Oscar-Mata-Hazard (and play with Moses for example, like Benitez is doing most of the time). question is if Oscar could play in the double pivot too, otherwise his career in Chelsea could not go big as we thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike 12,049 Posted December 18, 2012 Share Posted December 18, 2012 Agree about both, but what would you say about Oscar in this position instead of buying one of them?Im starting to think that Oscar wont have a place in the first 11 if we'll get that midfielder, becuase our next manager could not want to play Oscar-Mata-Hazard (and play with Moses for example, like Benitez is doing most of the time). question is if Oscar could play in the double pivot too, otherwise his career in Chelsea could not go big as we thought.Oscar is just potent in the final third to throw him in the middle of the park. Cabaye and Moutinho aren't the biggest blokes around but at least they are bigger than Oscar. Besides, we know their defensive capabilities and I'm not too sure on Oscar's. Sure he works hard but that's different to being able to intercept and tackle well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hutcho 8,443 Posted December 18, 2012 Share Posted December 18, 2012 We would have the most fouled player in the prem (eden) and the most fouling player...I am not sure with this one. 20 mil, is a good price for him which i doubt everton will sell him for considering they paid 15 mil. The problem is i don't think anyone can deny his best position is just behind the striker so he can head it down, use his strength etc. Which is a position we won't play him in because he is not gonna play there over mata or hazard etc... Unless we put one of them as striker which could be a bit more effctive than when we tried it before. I do like the idea of having a strong tall powerful player to be able to give us another dimention to our play. I would say of its 20 mil then get him for sure, but if we start getting beyond 25 then no as there are better options out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shogun 721 Posted December 18, 2012 Share Posted December 18, 2012 £20m haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kieran. 6,317 Posted December 18, 2012 Share Posted December 18, 2012 -----------Cech----------Azpi---Luiz--Terry--Cole------Mikel--Oscar------Mata----Fellaini--Hazard----------Falcao---------- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The only place to be 11,313 Posted December 18, 2012 Share Posted December 18, 2012 But who should be dropped to facilitate him? I think if he is bought he should be played the postion that he excels in which seems to be further up the pitch.Mikel or Ramires. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Igi26 346 Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 We should buy Moussa Sissoko. French users could tell more about him. Watched him once, he was great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corner 456 Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 We should buy Moussa Sissoko. French users could tell more about him. Watched him once, he was great.You watched him once and you're willing to recommend him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corner 456 Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 -----------Cech----------Azpi---Luiz--Terry--Cole------Mikel--Oscar------Mata----Fellaini--Hazard----------Falcao---------- Taking Mata out of the No.10 position to accommodate Fellaini, doesn't make much sense to me. Fellaini may be good, but he's not that good. I also don't think Mikel should be dropped for him either, that seems like madness to me. Especially after handing Mikel a five-year contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kieran. 6,317 Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 Taking Mata out of the No.10 position to accommodate Fellaini, doesn't make much sense to me. Fellaini may be good, but he's not that good. I also don't think Mikel should be dropped for him either, that seems like madness to me. Especially after handing Mikel a five-year contract.Notice the trollface. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 18,962 Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 I think someone posted a great looking lineup yesterday that looked like a diamond formation.Mikel just in front of the back 4 with Fellaini and Ramires partnered centrally, Mata and Hazard in free roles behind Falcao. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corner 456 Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 Notice the trollface. Ah, my apologies! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robsblubot 3,595 Posted December 20, 2012 Share Posted December 20, 2012 Should buy both Fellaini AND Shawcross... that'd make an entertaining locker room. They'd prob end up best friends though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strike 7,510 Posted December 20, 2012 Share Posted December 20, 2012 Apparently Zenit's been shit with Hulk and Witsel due to disharmony within the squad. The other players feel wronged that Witsel and Hulk make much more than them. Maybe they'll want to offload one of them? Just a thought.racism issues as well. maybe we can put in a cheeky bid for him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beepu 1,714 Posted December 20, 2012 Share Posted December 20, 2012 ^worth a try. But how much did Zenit paid for him??? 40m??? doubt they'd take half of what they paid for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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