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14 minutes ago, Stats said:

Let's face it though, Lukaku had an injury and some of those games we had, he would be gobbling up goals for fun. E.g, Newcastle, Burnley, Norwich, Leciester (with how their defence has been this season). I know people say our attack is inconsistent but can't help but think TT, never changing the system does not help too.

In most of games he didn't play  somebody had scored, but we conceded right afterwards. Or later in the game. Our inability to defend was problem . He would score in some of the games he missed, maybe. But we would concede. And we wouldn't win. Just like against Brighton . He scored. We didn't win. 

Yesterday every ball went to his feet. He was focal point. We were so one dimensional and easy to defend against. 

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23 minutes ago, Stats said:

Let's face it though, Lukaku had an injury and some of those games we had, he would be gobbling up goals for fun. E.g, Newcastle, Burnley, Norwich, Leciester (with how their defence has been this season).

Ifs, buts and maybes.

23 minutes ago, Stats said:

I know people say our attack is inconsistent but can't help but think TT, never changing the system does not help too.

Will a change of system really make us suddenly score more goals?

Barring some players, Lampard played a back 4 with this team and things never really worked out. Half of this team, notably in midfield and defence, also played in a back 4 under Sarri and again, things never worked out either. We were OK in attack and more often than not, very leak-ish defensively. We never had the balance right. If anything, Tuchel has stuck with the back 3 because it will give us far more defensive stability to go win games compared to a back 4 system, especially when there are question marks over a good number of players on their suitability to play in the latter system.

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Comments don’t seem bad at all after a cleaner translation. He’s not really having a go at Tuchel, just basically saying things haven’t quite gone as he expected so far and that he will get his head down and work. Which he has done these past few games.

The comment about the system we play is interesting, though. Reading between the lines it sounds as though he figured (like many here did, myself included) that we would play a 2 striker system like he did at Inter. Perhaps that was one of the main things TT spoke with him about to convince him to leave such a great situation in Italy. “Come to Chelsea and partner Werner/Havertz and you’ll slot straight in comfortably” or something to that effect. I’m not sure he expected to come in and be the traditional, old school target man who is kind of starved for chances like he was early in the season.

Injuries and COVID have totally fucked that stuff from happening all season.

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I just saw a video on what he said... I cannot believe this peice of shit has come out and said such a thing at this point in our season. 

Selfish wanker is trying to justify his shit footballing technique by blaming TTs system. 

Utter joke of a professional. 

He should be thanking the footballing God's he was even considered as a choice to lead our line. 

He has completely fucked up our momentum and has the cheek to say such things.

Put him on the bench and let him rot there until Inter bring our money back for him. 

Cheeky wanker.

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Pretty foolish comments while the season is still going on and he just got back from injury....

Maybe Tuchel will actually make some changes for once and not play with three center backs all the time.

None of our attacking players are doing well and of course they all need to play better, but we leave three attackers out there and expect the likes of Alonso and Azpi to support on the wings....Our midfield is terrible around the box so it's really difficult for our attacking players to get a rhythm. 

It's time to make some adjustments for once. If we're playing Man City or Liverpool, sure play defensive and hope to secure a result. But we play the same way against the mid table to bottom table teams....Any team can beat us the way we're currently constructed. 

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Slightly moving on I think one thing we can all agree on is Lukaku absolutely must deliver with these fixtures coming up next month.

Backs to the wall with the odds against us, games Drogba and Costa would get us over the line in.

No excuses, he will win some goodwill with me if he does come up with the goods here, on the other hand if he ghosts all these games I'm truly done with him.

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1 hour ago, Jase said:

Ifs, buts and maybes.

Will a change of system really make us suddenly score more goals?

Barring some players, Lampard played a back 4 with this team and things never really worked out. Half of this team, notably in midfield and defence, also played in a back 4 under Sarri and again, things never worked out either. We were OK in attack and more often than not, very leak-ish defensively. We never had the balance right. If anything, Tuchel has stuck with the back 3 because it will give us far more defensive stability to go win games compared to a back 4 system, especially when there are question marks over a good number of players on their suitability to play in the latter system.

I think it will. The 3-4-2-1 we play just doesn't seem to have the right fluidity between the attackers. A lot of our attacking players also have never played in this system before playing under Tuchel. It is more easier to mark the attackers out the game in that formation to because there is more reliance on the defenders, while 4-2-3-1, it is reliant on most of the attackers to do the work. Even if it did not work, I still think it is worth trying a change in shape. Tuchel was known to be a tinkerman, however he never changes formation and rather than change shape, he would rather shoehorn players in other positions, just so we keep the same formation.

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52 minutes ago, Stats said:

I think it will. The 3-4-2-1 we play just doesn't seem to have the right fluidity between the attackers. A lot of our attacking players also have never played in this system before playing under Tuchel. It is more easier to mark the attackers out the game in that formation to because there is more reliance on the defenders, while 4-2-3-1, it is reliant on most of the attackers to do the work. Even if it did not work, I still think it is worth trying a change in shape. Tuchel was known to be a tinkerman, however he never changes formation and rather than change shape, he would rather shoehorn players in other positions, just so we keep the same formation.

We have played the back 4 before and we have seen that it can also be stifled.

And we change formation to supposedly be more offensive...what about defensively? Alonso is not a LB. Can Azpi still function as a RB effectively game in, game out? Can Silva, Christensen, Chalobah and Rudiger thrive in a back 4 when their best work for us has come in a back 3? Can a midfield of Jorginho, Kovacic and Kante suddenly work consistently when it didn't under Lampard and Sarri? Also, Tuchel has complained about not having enough time in training to even do the things he wants to do with the current setup. I don't see how he would suddenly to a new system and having to coach the players to make it work at this time, especially with all the COVID and injury disruptions. 

Also, our attackers have played in the back 3 system. Lukaku obviously did it at Inter as well as with Belgium and Everton. Werner did so at Leipzig. Havertz did it with Germany. Mount with England and us under Lampard. Think Pulisic also did it at Dortmund under Tuchel.

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Any talk about changing formation shouldn't be discussed until we actually see who the club and Tuchel bring in next summer. We all know at this point in time we don't have the midfield or defence, and even attack to to play it and compete with City/Liverpool. This also goes to the purchase of Lukaku. Why did Tuchel push for this signing if he intended on playing him incorrectly? Why did we spend this much money on him in favor of continuing on a system that won us the CL? 

What are Tuchel's long term plans with how we function exactly? That is what the club should be asking him. 

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6 hours ago, Jase said:

Yes, just saw it.

This bit is interesting (cc @Tomo) :

https://football-italia.net/lukaku-expresses-Chelsea-regrets-and-inter-reunion-hopes/

“I am not happy with the situation at Chelsea, that is normal. I think the coach chose to play a different system, I just have to not give up, keep working and be professional. I am not happy with the situation, but I’m a hard worker and I mustn’t give up.”

And then there's also this:

“I really, genuinely from the bottom of my heart hope to come back to Inter, not at the end of my career, but while I am still at the level to win more trophies.”

Fabrizio confirmed this isn't mistranslation and took place around 3 weeks ago.

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Also but again, why is it another Belgian Chelsea player talking utter nonsense to the foreign press? Hazard and Tibo were also notoriously bad for it. It blows my mind. 

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3 hours ago, MoroccanBlue said:

Any talk about changing formation shouldn't be discussed until we actually see who the club and Tuchel bring in next summer. We all know at this point in time we don't have the midfield or defence, and even attack to to play it and compete with City/Liverpool. This also goes to the purchase of Lukaku. Why did Tuchel push for this signing if he intended on playing him incorrectly? Why did we spend this much money on him in favor of continuing on a system that won us the CL? 

What are Tuchel's long term plans with how we function exactly? That is what the club should be asking him. 

You sure Tuchel pushed Lukaku signing? The fact that Tuchel misuse Lukaku and we are playing better with a false 9 should tell you everything you need to know. 

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