Blue Armour 4,439 Posted December 30, 2021 Share Posted December 30, 2021 Haha @Tomo Like @Jase said, you're so right again about Lukaku. Not sure if you expected him to down tools so soon though. Get him out of here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Armour 4,439 Posted December 30, 2021 Share Posted December 30, 2021 55 minutes ago, Superblue_1986 said: Apparently this interview was done nearly a month ago Hmm. Media and their timing is impeccable. Probably can sense blood and are pulling out all the stops to derail our season even further so that their beloved teams can sneak into the top 4. Anyway. Like you said, regardless of the situation one month ago., he should have need careful. If he really wants to be 'professional'. You don't wash your dirty laundry in public. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laura90 556 Posted December 30, 2021 Share Posted December 30, 2021 14 minutes ago, Stats said: Let's face it though, Lukaku had an injury and some of those games we had, he would be gobbling up goals for fun. E.g, Newcastle, Burnley, Norwich, Leciester (with how their defence has been this season). I know people say our attack is inconsistent but can't help but think TT, never changing the system does not help too. In most of games he didn't play somebody had scored, but we conceded right afterwards. Or later in the game. Our inability to defend was problem . He would score in some of the games he missed, maybe. But we would concede. And we wouldn't win. Just like against Brighton . He scored. We didn't win. Yesterday every ball went to his feet. He was focal point. We were so one dimensional and easy to defend against. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NikkiCFC 8,323 Posted December 30, 2021 Share Posted December 30, 2021 People are overreacting, it's not like he put transfer request 🤣 Stats 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted December 30, 2021 Share Posted December 30, 2021 23 minutes ago, Stats said: Let's face it though, Lukaku had an injury and some of those games we had, he would be gobbling up goals for fun. E.g, Newcastle, Burnley, Norwich, Leciester (with how their defence has been this season). Ifs, buts and maybes. 23 minutes ago, Stats said: I know people say our attack is inconsistent but can't help but think TT, never changing the system does not help too. Will a change of system really make us suddenly score more goals? Barring some players, Lampard played a back 4 with this team and things never really worked out. Half of this team, notably in midfield and defence, also played in a back 4 under Sarri and again, things never worked out either. We were OK in attack and more often than not, very leak-ish defensively. We never had the balance right. If anything, Tuchel has stuck with the back 3 because it will give us far more defensive stability to go win games compared to a back 4 system, especially when there are question marks over a good number of players on their suitability to play in the latter system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 18,913 Posted December 30, 2021 Share Posted December 30, 2021 Comments don’t seem bad at all after a cleaner translation. He’s not really having a go at Tuchel, just basically saying things haven’t quite gone as he expected so far and that he will get his head down and work. Which he has done these past few games. The comment about the system we play is interesting, though. Reading between the lines it sounds as though he figured (like many here did, myself included) that we would play a 2 striker system like he did at Inter. Perhaps that was one of the main things TT spoke with him about to convince him to leave such a great situation in Italy. “Come to Chelsea and partner Werner/Havertz and you’ll slot straight in comfortably” or something to that effect. I’m not sure he expected to come in and be the traditional, old school target man who is kind of starved for chances like he was early in the season. Injuries and COVID have totally fucked that stuff from happening all season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whats happening 1,615 Posted December 30, 2021 Share Posted December 30, 2021 if he doesnt like it here, he can go, with his buddy rudiger. no need to keep players who doesnt want to play for Chelsea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDA 9,941 Posted December 30, 2021 Share Posted December 30, 2021 I just saw a video on what he said... I cannot believe this peice of shit has come out and said such a thing at this point in our season. Selfish wanker is trying to justify his shit footballing technique by blaming TTs system. Utter joke of a professional. He should be thanking the footballing God's he was even considered as a choice to lead our line. He has completely fucked up our momentum and has the cheek to say such things. Put him on the bench and let him rot there until Inter bring our money back for him. Cheeky wanker. Hermione 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoSalah 8,886 Posted December 30, 2021 Share Posted December 30, 2021 (edited) Mad hes said those comments. He has divided a lot since his arrival but those comments are 100% pure idiotic comments. Tuchel wont be happy either Edited December 30, 2021 by OneMoSalah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laylabelle 9,535 Posted December 30, 2021 Share Posted December 30, 2021 Know said a while ago..but did he not expect this to come out? Still a stupid thing to say really. Not going to make things better Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blues11 213 Posted December 30, 2021 Share Posted December 30, 2021 Pretty foolish comments while the season is still going on and he just got back from injury.... Maybe Tuchel will actually make some changes for once and not play with three center backs all the time. None of our attacking players are doing well and of course they all need to play better, but we leave three attackers out there and expect the likes of Alonso and Azpi to support on the wings....Our midfield is terrible around the box so it's really difficult for our attacking players to get a rhythm. It's time to make some adjustments for once. If we're playing Man City or Liverpool, sure play defensive and hope to secure a result. But we play the same way against the mid table to bottom table teams....Any team can beat us the way we're currently constructed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted December 30, 2021 Share Posted December 30, 2021 Slightly moving on I think one thing we can all agree on is Lukaku absolutely must deliver with these fixtures coming up next month. Backs to the wall with the odds against us, games Drogba and Costa would get us over the line in. No excuses, he will win some goodwill with me if he does come up with the goods here, on the other hand if he ghosts all these games I'm truly done with him. Blue Armour, Laylabelle, Johnnyeye and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stats 7,142 Posted December 30, 2021 Share Posted December 30, 2021 1 hour ago, Jase said: Ifs, buts and maybes. Will a change of system really make us suddenly score more goals? Barring some players, Lampard played a back 4 with this team and things never really worked out. Half of this team, notably in midfield and defence, also played in a back 4 under Sarri and again, things never worked out either. We were OK in attack and more often than not, very leak-ish defensively. We never had the balance right. If anything, Tuchel has stuck with the back 3 because it will give us far more defensive stability to go win games compared to a back 4 system, especially when there are question marks over a good number of players on their suitability to play in the latter system. I think it will. The 3-4-2-1 we play just doesn't seem to have the right fluidity between the attackers. A lot of our attacking players also have never played in this system before playing under Tuchel. It is more easier to mark the attackers out the game in that formation to because there is more reliance on the defenders, while 4-2-3-1, it is reliant on most of the attackers to do the work. Even if it did not work, I still think it is worth trying a change in shape. Tuchel was known to be a tinkerman, however he never changes formation and rather than change shape, he would rather shoehorn players in other positions, just so we keep the same formation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted December 30, 2021 Share Posted December 30, 2021 52 minutes ago, Stats said: I think it will. The 3-4-2-1 we play just doesn't seem to have the right fluidity between the attackers. A lot of our attacking players also have never played in this system before playing under Tuchel. It is more easier to mark the attackers out the game in that formation to because there is more reliance on the defenders, while 4-2-3-1, it is reliant on most of the attackers to do the work. Even if it did not work, I still think it is worth trying a change in shape. Tuchel was known to be a tinkerman, however he never changes formation and rather than change shape, he would rather shoehorn players in other positions, just so we keep the same formation. We have played the back 4 before and we have seen that it can also be stifled. And we change formation to supposedly be more offensive...what about defensively? Alonso is not a LB. Can Azpi still function as a RB effectively game in, game out? Can Silva, Christensen, Chalobah and Rudiger thrive in a back 4 when their best work for us has come in a back 3? Can a midfield of Jorginho, Kovacic and Kante suddenly work consistently when it didn't under Lampard and Sarri? Also, Tuchel has complained about not having enough time in training to even do the things he wants to do with the current setup. I don't see how he would suddenly to a new system and having to coach the players to make it work at this time, especially with all the COVID and injury disruptions. Also, our attackers have played in the back 3 system. Lukaku obviously did it at Inter as well as with Belgium and Everton. Werner did so at Leipzig. Havertz did it with Germany. Mount with England and us under Lampard. Think Pulisic also did it at Dortmund under Tuchel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoroccanBlue 5,382 Posted December 30, 2021 Share Posted December 30, 2021 Any talk about changing formation shouldn't be discussed until we actually see who the club and Tuchel bring in next summer. We all know at this point in time we don't have the midfield or defence, and even attack to to play it and compete with City/Liverpool. This also goes to the purchase of Lukaku. Why did Tuchel push for this signing if he intended on playing him incorrectly? Why did we spend this much money on him in favor of continuing on a system that won us the CL? What are Tuchel's long term plans with how we function exactly? That is what the club should be asking him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Lee 47 Posted December 30, 2021 Share Posted December 30, 2021 2 hours ago, Hermione said: Weren't experts on this forum saying he loves this club and has matured? Absolute asshat. So many experts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blues Forever 1,232 Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 (edited) 6 hours ago, Jase said: Yes, just saw it. This bit is interesting (cc @Tomo) : https://football-italia.net/lukaku-expresses-Chelsea-regrets-and-inter-reunion-hopes/ “I am not happy with the situation at Chelsea, that is normal. I think the coach chose to play a different system, I just have to not give up, keep working and be professional. I am not happy with the situation, but I’m a hard worker and I mustn’t give up.” And then there's also this: “I really, genuinely from the bottom of my heart hope to come back to Inter, not at the end of my career, but while I am still at the level to win more trophies.” Fabrizio confirmed this isn't mistranslation and took place around 3 weeks ago. Edited December 31, 2021 by Blues Forever Warning_Hazard and Vesper 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blues Forever 1,232 Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 1 hour ago, Dan Lee said: So many experts. Never believe his word, Lukaku literaly picked United ahead us back in 2017. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoSalah 8,886 Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 (edited) Also but again, why is it another Belgian Chelsea player talking utter nonsense to the foreign press? Hazard and Tibo were also notoriously bad for it. It blows my mind. Edited December 31, 2021 by OneMoSalah LAM09 and Vesper 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blues Forever 1,232 Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 (edited) 3 hours ago, MoroccanBlue said: Any talk about changing formation shouldn't be discussed until we actually see who the club and Tuchel bring in next summer. We all know at this point in time we don't have the midfield or defence, and even attack to to play it and compete with City/Liverpool. This also goes to the purchase of Lukaku. Why did Tuchel push for this signing if he intended on playing him incorrectly? Why did we spend this much money on him in favor of continuing on a system that won us the CL? What are Tuchel's long term plans with how we function exactly? That is what the club should be asking him. You sure Tuchel pushed Lukaku signing? The fact that Tuchel misuse Lukaku and we are playing better with a false 9 should tell you everything you need to know. Edited December 31, 2021 by Blues Forever LAM09, Atomiswave and Warning_Hazard 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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