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[Mário César 1,281]

some tough decisions to make this summer about poch, gallagher and chalobah 

sometimes I think its better to sell both and hired another coach but other times I think the opposite 

the fact is that the club need to sell but if we can offload lukaku and kepa, alongside maattsen and hall and probably we dont need to sell them 

[King Kante 1,643]

Poch must be breathing a sigh of relief today.

If that Villa game last night ended 3-1 we would've only been six points off 4th if we had seen out the Burnley and Sheffield games, with only a 4 goal differential. Personally, I see Villa losing to Palace and Spurs not beating City. If that had happened it would've raised quite a few questions imo if we now beat Brighton and Bournemouth. 

[King Kante 1,643]

On 11/05/2024 at 23:32, Mário César said:

some tough decisions to make this summer about poch, gallagher and chalobah 

sometimes I think its better to sell both and hired another coach but other times I think the opposite 

the fact is that the club need to sell but if we can offload lukaku and kepa, alongside maattsen and hall and probably we dont need to sell them 

Trevs been our best CB this season, so selling him is madness. As for Conor, I really don't see how giving him a new contract is going to be so bad, as there will always be a buyer for him and he is one a only a few players we've got that have proven they can stay fit.

[MoroccanBlue 5,383]

On 11/05/2024 at 17:32, Mário César said:

the fact is that the club need to sell 

I'm not believing any of these finance people outside of those working at the club. The club denied selling the training ground. 

Fact is these people can view the club's accounts and make assumptions but that is just it, assumptions. They don't know the full details. You have wankstains like Stefan Borson or SwissRamble now coming out apologising admitting it’s not as clear cut as they had thought. 

[NikkiCFC 8,334]

75 goals scored in PL this season. 

Conte title aside most in the last 14 seasons since Carlo. And one game left. 

Last season we scored 38. We double it. And some say Havertz, Mount, Pulisic are better than our young lads. 

From 44 points 👉 to 60 or 61 most likely 63.

Position 12 --> 6

What a job by Mr. Poch!

Cooking 🍳 👩‍🍳 

Not to mention injuries. Next season we go over 80 points. Only Arsenal and City finishing over us is acceptable. 

Also genius project by Boehly and Co. Ahead of it's time.

New contract and increase salary?

 

 

 

Edited May 15, 2024 by NikkiCFC

[Mário César 1,281]

8 minutes ago, NikkiCFC said:

75 goals scored in PL this season. 

Conte title aside most in the last 14 seasons since Carlo. And one game left. 

Last season we scored 38. We double it. And some say Havertz, Mount, Pulisic are better than our young lads. 

From 44 points 👉 to 60 or 61 most likely 63.

Position 12 --> 6

What a job by Mr. Poch!

Cooking 🍳 👩‍🍳 

Not to mention injuries. Next season we go over 80 points. Only Arsenal and City finishing over us is acceptable. 

Also genius project by Boehly and Co. 

New contract and increase salary?

 

 

 

we need to fix our defense and to fix injuries...

[Vytis33 1,276]

Quite a statement from Cole here

 

 

[ZAPHOD2319 4,819]

On 07/05/2024 at 10:07, milka said:

Our best games this season are without Enzo because he is lazy. The team have balance and chemistry with Caicedo and Gallagher .
Bottlechino knows this, but because the Argentinian is a starboy of Clownlake, there is no way to leave him on the bench.
Enzo is player more for La Liga or Calcio Italia

I have never heard of the owners asking for a player to play. Enzo has also been playing injured. Injured players often do not hustle on the pitch. I will judge him when he is healthy again. When he first came to club he was killing it.

[Mhsc 1,098]

I think Poch should stay at this point. He's turned it around and if Cole Palmer wants the man to stay then I want him to stay.

Let him see out his contract and poss extend him for a year if we're top 4 around Christmas.

[Fernando 6,585]

Good it's just what I have been saying for weeks, we are finishing on a high and that will spill the onto next season. It always does no matter who is the coach. 

Now it will be dumb from the board to sack him because new manager will come in and want to try everyone thus wasting valuable time and resources.

Let's continue with Poch and fix the areas that need improvement. 

Next season is where we can judge better Poch, first season was always going to be inconsistent. 

Edited May 16, 2024 by Fernando

[milka 3,393]

You can't replace him because you won't get a better one if you sack him you only downgrade . And judging by the recent wins, he clearly stopped listening to Clownlake on what lineup to come out with and only now started working with his lineup, which coincidentally coincided with Enzo's injury.

[Mhsc 1,098]

2 hours ago, milka said:

You can't replace him because you won't get a better one if you sack him you only downgrade . And judging by the recent wins, he clearly stopped listening to Clownlake on what lineup to come out with and only now started working with his lineup, which coincidentally coincided with Enzo's injury.

This is a completely baffling take... Obviously, no one was telling Poch what lineups to play, or how to play. In fact he was quite flagrantly playing the team very much not as the squad was designed: insisting on playing a left back at LW, a CB at LB, sometimes Disasi at RB, Enzo far up the field, etc. It was like he was trying to create a line up as far away from how they were designed to be played by the people putting the squad together and if he has come close to the sack this year I think that will absolutely be why: they all agreed mutually on transfers, spending a lot of money, but none of it will matter if Poch would then insist on playing a totally stupid system.

What we don't know is whether he finally seen sense (or got over whatever point he was trying to make earlier in the season where he seemed to be almost intentionally sabotaging us) or whether he will revert to Chilwell LW, Colwill LB for example when both are fit and available.

It is hard to say whether he just got to this winning setup by basically being brute forced into it due to injuries, or actually had an epiphany. Honestly it seems more likely he's just lucked into finding a winning side. But hopefully he's sensible enough to stick with what works and stop the complete madness he was doing at the beginning of the season. It is clear that Poch is not strong at tactical/strategic setups. He is more about motivation, developing players and giving them his trust and backing. Then he just sticks them on the field and tells them to play with intensity.

I think there is basically no way Poch can be this groups manager in the long term but for 1 more year (2 years absolute max) as they develop together it probably makes sense.

[Seymop 90]

As stated previously I just cannot understand the supporters on here clambering for Poch to go !!

Havent we learnt anything over the last couple of years,after ditching a world class manager in Tuchel ??? What better coaches do we think are lining up to a non Champions League Chelsea ???

Poch is under contract for another year and we need to let that run at-least, before we review where we are. Many of the squad have improved under the guidance of him and his team — Cole,Jackson etc. We should be showing him he is wanted, before he decides that he doesn’t want us !!  

[Vesper 30,219]

7 hours ago, Seymop said:

As stated previously I just cannot understand the supporters on here clambering for Poch to go !!

Havent we learnt anything over the last couple of years,after ditching a world class manager in Tuchel ??? What better coaches do we think are lining up to a non Champions League Chelsea ???

Poch is under contract for another year and we need to let that run at-least, before we review where we are. Many of the squad have improved under the guidance of him and his team — Cole,Jackson etc. We should be showing him he is wanted, before he decides that he doesn’t want us !!  

per the club

and all the rest I would want will not come here now

so its Poch by default

[Fernando 6,585]

My only pick at this time is Alonso. 

If he can't come then continue with Poch. 

Maybe some stability with Poch might entice Alonso in the future. 

[robsblubot 3,595]

When all players click and the team plays better you have to give the manager some credit otherwise no manager will get any ever. The team is clicking, is running really well, and most, if not all players have, improved some.

Everything happened a bit late in the season, and I frankly don't expect to start from this level next season, but I understand that the amount of changes in the roster certainly make things more difficult for the coaches at the club, esp fitness wise.

I'm not sure we can get anywhere near silverware next season from what I hear. Unless it's just club talk trying not to raise expectations.

[Superblue 6,372]

It would be foolish for the club to discard Poch now for a number of reasons:

1. He appears to have full backing from the whole squad, which for a team that has struggled at times this season, is rare.

2. Everything seems to be finally coming together now the squad is settling and maturing. Our finish to the season, we're not that far off Villa in 4th now. The top 4 is very much there for the taking next season outside of Arsenal and City. Liverpool will be a bit of an unknown entity with the new manager and could fall back into the pack, and I think Villa will struggle to maintain their top 4 position next season. If we keep on the upward trajectory we seem to be on, I don't see no reason why we can't be improving by another 10-15 points next year.

3. What is out there that anybody can be really confident is going to be a sure fire thing and improve on what we have right now. The manager market, on paper, looks so weak that Liverpool have taken a real punt in my opinion with their choice, and the likes of Barca, Bayern and United have already, or look possibly like going to, attempt to retain what they currently have despite relatively modest seasons (or downright pathetic in United's case). 

4. When the top managers do become available on the market, we need to look as attractive as possible to them, if we're looking to approach any. That firstly means continuing to kick on and get back into the Champions League, but more importantly, we need to show a lot more stability than we have so far under the current owners. At least under Roman, managers would still be attracted to the job knowing they'd have a nucleus of a side to compete for trophies with, and a Chelsea stint could very well look good on the CV. But with a young, inexperienced squad still very much developing, the short term approach to managers just won't be an attractive proposition for the best ones.

I'm obviously not looking right now, but someone I am interested in following is Cesc. Although he's officially an assistant, I think it's widely assumed this is just a work-around for his coaching badges and he has a lot more influence on things at Como that an assistant usually would have. That Spanish generation behind Pep do seem to be a potential hotbed of the next best managers coming through. He's obviously a bit behind the likes of Arteta and Alonso, but I've always felt he's come across incredibly well, very intelligent and likeable, and has had quite the variety of coaches in his career to have picked things up from. 

The main thing is if somebody like a Cesc were to come through really strongly over the next 2-3 years and was being touted for a big job, we're not going to look attractive to him if we've eaten up Poch and another manager or more in that period. 

[milka 3,393]

On 16/05/2024 at 15:30, Mhsc said:

playing a left back at LW, a CB at LB, sometimes Disasi at RB, Enzo far up the field, etc. It was like he was trying to create a line up as far away from how they were designed to be played by the people putting the squad together and if he has come close to the sack this year I think that will absolutely be why: they all agreed mutually on transfers, spending a lot of money, but none of it will matter if Poch would then insist on playing a totally stupid system.

What we don't know is whether he finally seen sense (or got over whatever point he was trying to make earlier in the season where he seemed to be almost intentionally sabotaging us) or whether he will revert to Chilwell LW, Colwill LB for example when both are fit and available.

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He playling Chilwell LW because he doesn't trust Mudryk  at the start of the season, Colwill LB because they got rid of Maatsen for no reason(for pound note) when we didn't have a healthy one LB . As for Enzo, he himself said that if he does not start the lineup with him, the owners will kill him in other words whether he likes it or not Enzo is a starter regardless of his form and there seems to be more chemistry between Caicedo and Gallagher than with Enzo.

[Strike 7,492]

 

Weird situation. I think there's no reason to keep Poch in this sort of uncertainty. 

[DH1988 1,348]

8 minutes ago, Strike said:

 

Weird situation. I think there's no reason to keep Poch in this sort of uncertainty. 

Don't think it's weird, wait for the end of the season and the FA cup result, assess without emotion and make a decision.

 

For me, he has to go.