Chelsea Transfers

[Special Juan 28,187]

Sounds like Mendy is nigh on done and it's full on Rice patrol after that. If Jorginho goes I think we get Rice.

[Bosnian Blue 2,471]

Go for Rice aswell, fuck it. This is our summer, our time.

[NikkiCFC 8,368]

9 hours ago, Pizy said:

9 hours ago, Jype said:

Yep, seems like the better idea to wait if Rice isn't available yet. 

But I don't think the position is in desperate need of a player there currently. We'll wait for Rice until next year if need be rather than signing someone just to sign them.

Rice has 4+1 years left on contract. So basically till 2025.

Nothing is going to be different next summer.

We have FFP relaxation this season so it does not matter if we sign him now or next summer. This is why I think we will go all in for him very soon...

 

[King Kante 1,643]

3 hours ago, killer1257 said:

This is also my biggest issue with Declan Rice. 50 million Euros, I would be fine with because Zakaria, who in my opinion is better than Rice, costs exactly 50 million Euros and will be available next season.
Technically way superior than Rice.

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I cannot say who is better as I have not seen Zakaria. I will take your word he is better. 

However, the problem in this situation is the 'romance' of signing Rice.

Chelsea youth product who is a true fan gets cast aside by the club at 14 which breaks his heart. He goes away and becomes a top player for a close rival by the age of 19. Club of his dreams admit there mistake and 'bring him home' at 21 to inherit the Chelsea leader status that has been vacant since Mr. Chelsea, John Terry, left. 

[R2D2 368]

6 minutes ago, King Kante said:

I cannot say who is better as I have not seen Zakaria. I will take your word he is better. 

However, the problem in this situation is the 'romance' of signing Rice.

Chelsea youth product who is a true fan gets cast aside by the club at 14 which breaks his heart. He goes away and becomes a top player for a close rival by the age of 19. Club of his dreams admit there mistake and 'bring him home' at 21 to inherit the Chelsea leader status that has been vacant since Mr. Chelsea, John Terry, left. 

The only problem is he is not a top player, actually not even close.

[!Hazard! 3,394]

To me Rice looks more like a CB than a midfielder

[Pizy 18,985]

42 minutes ago, NikkiCFC said:

Rice has 4+1 years left on contract. So basically till 2025.

Nothing is going to be different next summer.

We have FFP relaxation this season so it does not matter if we sign him now or next summer. This is why I think we will go all in for him very soon...

 

I don't mean wait until his price goes down, I'm saying we'll wait until we have money for the huge outlay that will be required. WH will likely demand £65-80m for him which there's no chance of us paying this summer.

This time next season we'll have PL and CL money to work with and will probably only need one or two players after what we've done this summer. 

[Vesper 30,272]

 Alphonse Areola off the board

 

[milka 3,395]

 

[whats happening 1,633]

so what happens if he suck too? we will have two keepers with 4+ years remaining contract

[OhForAGreavsie 6,090]

On 05/09/2020 at 1:07 PM, BlueLyon said:

Yup pretty much this. She gets the praise when good players come...when its the bad ones its ohh but she is only a negotiatiator, a financial expert.

But Marina isnt the problem per se. The problem is that she is second in command, and as such responsible for not just financials, but scouting, planning etc. And she is only expert in financials. Obviously she doesnt do scouting herself, but she is in charge of high level decisions along with Roman. If Cech has a suggestion in scouting, its definately not his call, but needs approval by a higher member; Marina or Roman (given Roman trusts Marina, its likely her decision). 

Her negotiation skills are great. As is her financial knowledge. But she is second in command and has much much greater responsibility and power. And she doesnt have football knowledge like many second in command members at other clubs have. And thats the whole point. 

You cant have someone with such limited expertise in charge of scouting decisions or team building. Or, if you have, then its her damn responsibility ffs.

Lastly, everyone is creaming over this window when season didnt even start. Lets wait how these new players settle in, then we talk about how smart our summer was. Usualy its never good to change half of starting 11, but maybe Lamps does wonders.

Why do you say marina is second the second most powerful executive at Chelsea. How do you know this?

[Hutcho 8,443]

Rice has 4+1 years left on contract. So basically till 2025.
Nothing is going to be different next summer.
We have FFP relaxation this season so it does not matter if we sign him now or next summer. This is why I think we will go all in for him very soon...
 

A year less on the contract could mean a lower fee and the way transfers work mean that any fees are spread over the contract length so its more money pushed into later seasons which is ideal. So the year could make some difference.

We need some more confirmed outgoings I think before we start to pursue others, but I think we will get them soon ish.

Personally I think rice will be way too high of an asking price and I don't rate him anywhere near what most people do but I'm happy to be proven wrong.

[Hutcho 8,443]

so what happens if he suck too? we will have two keepers with 4+ years remaining contract

What happens if Werner chillwell ziyech havertz suck?

You could say that about anyone. He's a much lower fee. Much less risk. And statistically can't be worse than kepa last season.

What's the alternative you're proposing?

[Jype 6,398]

23 minutes ago, whats happening said:

so what happens if he suck too? we will have two keepers with 4+ years remaining contract

Mendy won't be too expensive to shift on like Kepa. Bought for a £20-25M fee he could be sold for 10-15M in a couple years without taking too much of a financial hit on the clubs books unlike Kepa who'd make the club fail FFP immediately if he was sold for £20M now (Kepa has remaining book value of £50M so that would record a £30M loss in a single financial year from one transfer alone).

Or if Mendy fails to live up to expectations of first choice keeper he could just be kept as a good backup, no way he's so horribly bad that he can't even be relied on as a 2nd choice.

And either way he can't possibly do worse than Kepa last season so any improvement is already worth some investment.

[Thermae00 1]

3 hours ago, R2D2 said:

The only problem is he is not a top player, actually not even close.

Exactly. To me he is another Dier. Sure he is young and promising but does he have pace/skills/dribble/passing/press-resist to be a top player. No. He is tad slow imo. To be a top CB, he lacks strengths and speed. To be a top CM, he lacks speed, skills, passing and press-resist abilities. He belongs to Drinkwater in his heyday, Eric Dier group. Might shine at lower level teams but lacks key element to be a top top player.

I rather roll dice for Zakaria next year who will have one year remain on his contract. Should be gettable for 40m next year. He is a bull. Super fast and strong. Can carry the ball forward like Bakayoko and runs like Ramires. Knows how to protect pocket space. His passing is not spectacular but his other abilities are top qualities. I can see within 2 years he goes out and become best #6 in the world barring injury. Rice? Meh..

[Yeboii 1,844]

The amazing this is that if we get Mendy and Rice, we got all our nr. 1 targets!

[shrenshah 186]

Just saw youtube clips (I know) of camaviga

That guy is a baller. 17 yrs old and is so good on the ball and tackles so well.

We should have a right to match clause for him inserted in any deal for mendy

He would be the perfect replacement for kante in a year or 2

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[Alabama 1,992]

Just sign Zakaria and be done with incoming transfers this season....

We need to start shifting players

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[lucio 5,418]

1 hour ago, Alabama said:

Just sign Zakaria and be done with incoming transfers this season....

We need to start shifting players

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We even linked ?

[Alabama 1,992]

26 minutes ago, lucio said:

We even linked ?

Nah...

Just feel like he has the perfect combination of skills and abilities the fellow that will play our DM this season should possess considering our incoming attacking players and what will give them the liberty to fully express their attacking play without compromising our defence...