Chelsea Transfers

[robsblubot 3,529]

20 minutes ago, Blue Armour said:

That's why this whole 'build for the future' argument is so speculative.

It might pay off, it certainly will raise the resale value of the entire squad, but it doesn't necessarily amount to the trophies. AKA, Wenger's Arsenal.

But hey, maybe some fans like that. Basically enjoy the process, not the end results.

 

Yup and I reckon the missing variable in their equation is "time." What do we do while these players develop? Watch grass grow? 😃 Players blossom at different times in their careers -- there is no guarantee these youngster will get anywhere near their peaks in 2-3 years from now.

Take Solanke as an example. He's playing well now at 26!

Edited April 26 by robsblubot

[Vesper 29,015]

5 hours ago, OhForAGreavsie said:

Massively in favour of this. Have been calling for it, here and elsewhere, for decades. Let's bury the Financial Unfair Play nonsense once and for all.

So you are ok with us being pegged at the same spending level of Palace or Bournemouth?

[Blue Armour 4,311]

5 hours ago, robsblubot said:

Yup and I reckon the missing variable in their equation is "time." What do we do while these players develop? Watch grass grow? 😃 Players blossom at different times in their careers -- there is no guarantee these youngster will get anywhere near their peaks in 2-3 years from now.

Take Solanke as an example. He's playing well now at 26!

The long-term contracts all our new signings are on, should itself be a clue.

This a long play by Eghbali & Co. They ultimately want a squad that has appreciated in value 6-7 years from now, when they are ready to sell the club. From their perspective., it doesn't matter if some players mature faster than others. The ones that mature faster., might want to move before that time period, but Eghbali & Co. will make a good profit from the sale of such players., who feel they are too good to remain.

That's their primary objective. Any trophies or results we pick along the way will just be a bonus.

Th3ats why they will only hire a manager that agrees with their 'vision'. Glorified yes-men. Hopefully some of them will have decent coaching credentials.

[Vesper 29,015]

Jesus fucking christ, some cunt on BBC suggested we sell Palmer to help balance our books.

IF we sell him, I AM DONE, OUT. EOS

[Strike 7,250]

26 minutes ago, Vesper said:

Jesus fucking christ, some cunt on BBC suggested we sell Palmer to help balance our books.

IF we sell him, I AM DONE, OUT. EOS

I don't think there's any worry of this happening. At least this summer.

Club is offering him a new deal. 

[robsblubot 3,529]

13 minutes ago, Strike said:

I don't think there's any worry of this happening. At least this summer.

Club is offering him a new deal. 

Yeah agreed, not right now. Another season like this one though and his agent will get real busy.

Edited April 26 by robsblubot

[OhForAGreavsie 5,898]

20 hours ago, Vesper said:

So you are ok with us being pegged at the same spending level of Palace or Bournemouth?

I believe in the US salary cap system. In the name of competition I want to see all clubs competing in the same tier allowed the same budget. Now, whether each club can afford the maximum spend is another matter but, if they have benefactors willing to front the money without encumbering the club with debt, they should be allowed to spend up to the tier maximum. Right across the globe, leagues are dominated by their richest clubs. Decade after decade it goes on. Occasionally we get an exception like Laverkausen but it never lasts. Soon enough Bayern will be off on another ten year winning streak.

Granted defining the tiers would take some work but it can be done. Or so I believe at any rate.

Edited April 27 by OhForAGreavsie

[OhForAGreavsie 5,898]

19 hours ago, Vesper said:

Jesus fucking christ, some cunt on BBC suggested we sell Palmer to help balance our books.

IF we sell him, I AM DONE, OUT. EOS

Only way he gets sold is if there's a clause he can trigger. Surely? SURELY?

[Vesper 29,015]

No, we are NOT buying Gabri Veiga

Fichajes,, close to the the worst major football in Europe, is lying again

there really should be a law against papers literally making shit up

[DH1988 1,304]

If we can get 2 strikers, plan A and plan B ie. I was always a fan of having Giroud, a completely different dynamic in striker, what Llorente was for Poch, irrespective if Poch stays.

I would honestly move Jackson to LW if it meant we got 2 actual strikers, not worldies.

[Thor 2,431]

22 minutes ago, DH1988 said:

If we can get 2 strikers, plan A and plan B ie. I was always a fan of having Giroud, a completely different dynamic in striker, what Llorente was for Poch, irrespective if Poch stays.

I would honestly move Jackson to LW if it meant we got 2 actual strikers, not worldies.

Been watching Bologna and Joshua Zirkzee would actually be perfect next to Cole and Jackson either side. He plays amazingly with his back to goal and picks out passes so well. Perfect for when we are going against these park the bus teams. Even have Nkunku playing just behind. 

 

[Vesper 29,015]

ok

I am losing the plot probably

but

Chris Wood (12 league goals in only 1500 minutes on a shit team)

could be a 'poor man's Giroud' signing

he still is only 32yo too, not like some 35, 36 yo last hurrah type

[King Kante 1,500]

On 26/04/2024 at 05:49, Vesper said:

So you are ok with us being pegged at the same spending level of Palace or Bournemouth?

Yes. Current rules rigg the system for the big clubs. Why can't a team like Bournemouth get a new owner who wants to put their money in to make them PL champions? Currently, the system insists that clubs spend what they generate, but how can clubs realistically grow without investment? 

For me, as long as the owner is using their own money, they can do what they want. We have no right to be a 'Big Club' forever. 

[Reddish-Blue 2,354]

19 hours ago, Vesper said:

ok

I am losing the plot probably

but

Chris Wood (12 league goals in only 1500 minutes on a shit team)

could be a 'poor man's Giroud' signing

he still is only 32yo too, not like some 35, 36 yo last hurrah type

That's a horrible signing, I wouldn't take any strikers from relegation level clubs.  

This is the same guy who was asked to leave Newcastle and now they have Isak leading the line (the difference in quality is laughable)

[Thor 2,431]

1 hour ago, King Kante said:

Yes. Current rules rigg the system for the big clubs. Why can't a team like Bournemouth get a new owner who wants to put their money in to make them PL champions? Currently, the system insists that clubs spend what they generate, but how can clubs realistically grow without investment? 

For me, as long as the owner is using their own money, they can do what they want. We have no right to be a 'Big Club' forever. 

I disagree. 

Some sports have been set out like that, but football has a tradition and history that comes with it. 

And like we see with Newcastle and Man City - you can become a "big club". 

[Vesper 29,015]

21 hours ago, Reddish-Blue said:

That's a horrible signing, I wouldn't take any strikers from relegation level clubs.  

This is the same guy who was asked to leave Newcastle and now they have Isak leading the line (the difference in quality is laughable)

obviously he would not be the main striker here, but he sure would have been useful off the bench in many situations, and he would be cheap AF, esepcially if Forest go down

[Vesper 29,015]

21 hours ago, King Kante said:

Yes. Current rules rigg the system for the big clubs. Why can't a team like Bournemouth get a new owner who wants to put their money in to make them PL champions? Currently, the system insists that clubs spend what they generate, but how can clubs realistically grow without investment? 

For me, as long as the owner is using their own money, they can do what they want. We have no right to be a 'Big Club' forever. 

hard pass on going even further to the yank model

what's next, no relegation?

I do NOT want decades of mediocrity

plus the EPL clubs will get crushed by the free-spending giant clubs in Europe

I do not want to become a feader league or a has-been league, or a middling talent league

no no no

[Vesper 29,015]

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