Chelsea Transfers

[Vesper 30,224]

I do not know if Nico williams is worth 60m euros, that a lot of dosh

Edited June 1, 2024 by Vesper

[Thor 2,719]

Nico Williams is so average. 
 

Another winger with a loose dribble and speed. 
 

No thanks. Plenty around for cheaper. 

[Vesper 30,224]

46 minutes ago, Thor said:

Nico Williams is so average. 
 

Another winger with a loose dribble and speed. 
 

No thanks. Plenty around for cheaper. 

If he was in the 30 to 35m euro range, then yes, worth a punt, but I am (after doing a deep dive the past month) not sold on him at 60m euros

as for 'plenty around' there really, after the Big 5 I listed above, are not a lot of class right footed available left wingers

Jonathan David (ambipedal, like Khvicha Kvaratskhelia) is a CF who maybe, maybe could play winger (and can play SS, but we have Nkunku there already), BUT he will cost as much or more than Nico

I doubt Pool will sell Diogo Jota, especially as Luis Díaz may be leaving

we missed out with Anthony Gordon

hard pass on Grealish (who would cost a fortune anyway)

Serge Gnabry is 29yo in a month, and is injured again, as he was most of the season

Kingsley Coman is 28yo in 2 weeks and is in the exact same postion as Gnabry, injured and missed a big chunk of the season, plus he produced almost identical stats as Gnabry in 1000 more minutes (5 goals 3 assists v Gnabry 5 goals 2 assists)

Kaoru Mitoma turns 28 at next season's end and regressed a lot, only had 3 goals all season, in 2100 minutes, and is injured now

Mathys Tel would be great (and can play CF), BUT just renwed until 2029

Ferran Torres might be an option, and Barca would perhaps sell him

Ademola Lookman? Not sure, but he is an option

Yéremy Pino is damaged goods atm

Jeremie Frimpong plays on the right, but can play on the left, downside is he will cost a fortune, and gain is not at all a true left winger

zero chance I would gamble on  Ansu Fati

same for Sancho

Crysencio Summerville would be a possibilty, but I am not sold on him at all

Antonio Nusa has had injury issues and did not kick on as expected

Désiré Doué is not exactly a goal machine, but he is very young (18yo)

 

bottom line, there are not a lot of options out there who are both good and available and do not cost a fortune

Edited June 1, 2024 by Vesper

[Vesper 30,224]

I contunue to be amazed, even after almsot 6 and half years here, how many times people used the old fall-back 'oh, there are so many cheap and/or better options out there' for basically every postion

and yet they almost never list them

why?

because 90% of the time it is not the case

these supposed numerous good and cheap options simply do not exist in most examples, especially for attackers and truly good left footed CBs and also fullbacks overall

 

[Thor 2,719]

4 minutes ago, Vesper said:

I contunue to be amazed, even after almsot 6 and half years here, how many times people used the old fall-back 'oh, there are so many cheap and/or better options out there' for basically every postion

and yet they almost never list them

why?

because 90% of the time it is not the case

these supposed numerous good and cheap options simply do not exist in most examples, especially for attackers and truly good left footed CBs and also fullbacks overall

 

What I mean when I say cheaper options - is there are cheaper options for the same quality as that player. 

Not necessarily cheaper for better. 

Anyway - I'm hoping for Calafiori and maybe a CF, and I'd be happy with our transfer window. Let the lads grow together and don't need many more disruptions.

I think the signing of Enzo as manager, and having the likes of Tosin, Lavia and Palmer here, as well as others used to possession style football is actually thought out long term stuff from the ownership/sporting directors. Sometimes the correct pieces aren't available, but to some extent I think they have what they wanted now. 

[Superblue 6,372]

I think it will take some time to truly bear fruit, but I am glad that the club made a conscious decision to tap the South American market and in particular, challenge Madrid for what are seen as the top talents coming out from there.

It's a model that has served them well and they continue to explore and I think it's with good reason. Hopefully we find it to be the same situation over the next couple of years as our signings we've made start filtering into the first team squad here.

 

[NikkiCFC 8,336]

41 minutes ago, Vesper said:

Kingsley Coman 

11 titles in a row stopped this season. 

This is what happens when Harry Kane is your teammate. 

[Vesper 30,224]

9 hours ago, NikkiCFC said:

Fofana Colwill are our starters.

Fofana is likely perm wrecked

fucking disasterclass buy that is helping to shiv us in the arse us badly atm with FFP

[Vesper 30,224]

1 hour ago, Thor said:

What I mean when I say cheaper options - is there are cheaper options for the same quality as that player. 

Not necessarily cheaper for better. 

what about

Ferran Torres or Ademola Lookman?

I have to be honest

unless it is one of the Big 5 right footed remotely available LWers/AMFs (Leão, Wirtz, Kvaratskhelia, Musiala, and Xavi Simons)

I am almost ready to accept another year of Sterling and Mudryk

the drop off is that large once you go past those 5

the big problem is Sterling's insane wages

[Thor 2,719]

1 hour ago, Vesper said:

what about

Ferran Torres or Ademola Lookman?

I have to be honest

unless it is one of the Big 5 right footed remotely available LWers/AMFs (Leão, Wirtz, Kvaratskhelia, Musiala, and Xavi Simons)

I am almost ready to accept another year of Sterling and Mudryk

the drop off is that large once you go past those 5

the big problem is Sterling's insane wages

How much would Lookman cost? 

I'm always sceptical about buying players that have failed everywhere bar one place, and for a limited time. 

Like for like swaps at a cheaper price are always good business IMO, but sometimes the water is murky on that. 

I'd be interested to see how Sterling does given our manager is now more in the build of the Man City way of things...

[Vesper 30,224]

Just now, Thor said:

How much would Lookman cost? 

I'm always sceptical about buying players that have failed everywhere bar one place, and for a limited time. 

Like for like swaps at a cheaper price are always good business IMO, but sometimes the water is murky on that. 

I'd be interested to see how Sterling does given our manager is now more in the build of the Man City way of things...

Lookman could cost as much as £30m, which would mark a significant profit for the Serie A club, who paid £7m ($9m) to sign him from RB Leipzig. The winger has exploded in Italy and scored 15 goals in 2023-24, while also providing eight assists.

https://www.goal.com/en/lists/ademola-lookman-price-tag-revealed-premier-league-clubs-europa-league-final-hat-trick-atalanta/blt4c1e831f15b55644#csc6f8eba7e298d6b0

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[NikkiCFC 8,336]

Pulisic put better numbers than Lookman and Kvara this season in Seria A. 

[Vesper 30,224]

Chelsea close in on centre-back signing and have two wingers in their sights

https://thedailybriefing.io/i/145216332/Chelsea-close-in-on-centre-back-signing-and-have-two-wingers-in-their-sights

Chelsea are about to sign a new centre-back with the free transfer of Tosin Adarabioyo. A verbal agreement has been reached, and documents will be signed next week after his medical tests if everything goes to plan.

Newcastle were close to signing the defender, who is a free agent after deciding to leave Fulham, but the deal was never done. They were one step away, but it was never a done deal in terms of things being signed, it was just advanced talks. Chelsea have been able to convince him on their long term project, the vision, and Enzo Maresca’s ideas were also shared during their conversations.

So, Adarabioyo has accepted their proposal as deal will be completed next week. It looks like smart business by Chelsea, in my opinion, as they sign a proven Premier League player on a free, someone with experience but not old, so a good long-term option and a smart first signing for new manager Enzo Maresca. There was interest from a lot of other clubs, not just Newcastle - back in January AC Milan were also showing an interest, and also other clubs around Europe.

Chelsea are also internally discussing the goalkeeper position, and also deciding if they maybe want another centre-back, as well as a central striker. I can also say that a new winger is a possibility, and it may be worth returning on the Michael Olise case in the next days, because he’s a player appreciated by Chelsea for sure. But I can also say that Chelsea have been closely monitoring Crysencio Summerville.

Summerville has just had a fantastic season in the Championship, with Leeds unlucky in their race for promotion as they lost the playoff final to Southampton, and now Summerville is expected to change clubs this summer. Two clubs have been monitoring him more than others, and they are Chelsea and Liverpool.

The interest is really concrete from these two clubs - let’s see what they decide to do in terms of negotiations because we are not yet at that stage, and let’s see if other clubs decide to join the race, but for sure Summerville looks like one to watch for Chelsea and Liverpool.

[OhForAGreavsie 6,077]

On 26/05/2024 at 10:12, Mhsc said:

Spent all of last summer pining for Eze and Olise and everyone was saying we need Rayan fucking Cherki instead 

Not me! I wasn't talking about Eze last summer but I was very hopeful we would get Olise. Although it's hard to see why he would choose us now after rejecting us last summer I still can't shake the hope. 

Signing Olise would once again expose the real plan for many of the young left footed right winger prospects we have accumulated. They are tradable assets.

[OhForAGreavsie 6,077]

On 27/05/2024 at 15:35, Vesper said:

Cherki is a 'no end product' flashboy, and is a primadonna in terms of attitude.

Hard AF pass.

I can't comment on the attitude but completely agree on the description of his play and the hard pass,

Edited June 2, 2024 by OhForAGreavsie

[OhForAGreavsie 6,077]

On 28/05/2024 at 04:58, Strike said:

and we have Reece and Cucu able to play in central defense roles

At time of writing I still have more than 11 pages of this thread to read, but it's a fair guess that @vesper will have reminded everyone about her feelings on this subject by now. I know my vocabulary won't be up to it but let me try to summarise.

She never wants to see that bleeping midget Cucurella play centre bleeping back for this bleeping club ever a-bleeping-gain.

I think I got the gist of it.

[milka 3,393]

This club should be run by professionals. You get rid of your best defender in recent months Chalobah for pound notes to replace him, downgraded further in that position with Silva also leaving, you have Disasi, Badiashile who are at best  rotation players and Fofana , who hasn't played in years. Osimhen after a whole season of PR how Drogba supposedly persuaded him to go to Chelsea how Clownlake wanted him in the end you can't take him because you can't give a salary for these top players. Another PR about how  Clownlake wants two top talents in each position is another lie if we look at which players they focus on - from Fulham to the second Brazilian league.

 

 

[Mário César 1,282]

10 minutes ago, milka said:

This club should be run by professionals. You get rid of your best defender in recent months Chalobah for pound notes to replace him, downgraded further in that position with Silva also leaving, you have Disasi, Badiashile who are at best  rotation players and Fofana , who hasn't played in years. Osimhen after a whole season of PR how Drogba supposedly persuaded him to go to Chelsea how Clownlake wanted him in the end you can't take him because you can't give a salary for these top players. Another PR about how  Clownlake wants two top talents in each position is another lie if we look at which players they focus on - from Fulham to the second Brazilian league.

 

 

what a joke of a board, tbh

[Vesper 30,224]

On 16/04/2024 at 07:36, Vesper said:

GKers

Acceptable ones

(In order of valuation)

Diogo Costa    
Gregor Kobel 
Mike Maignan   
Giorgi Mamardashvili 
Jan Oblak    
Anatoliy Trubin    
Lucas Chevalier     
Matvey Safonov    
Filip Jørgensen 
Marco Carnesecchi
Álvaro Valles
Alex Meret
Bento
Guillaume Restes (youth)

Gotta get a little credit for pulling this one out of me bum, lolol

 

https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/Chelsea-transfer-news-arsenal-goalkeeper-32938634

Chelsea are eyeing Las Palmas goalkeeper Alvaro Valles.

Enzo Maresca wants a ball-playing shot-stopper between the sticks at Stamford Bridge next season as he looks to implement a possession-based style of play and the 26-year-old Spaniard may fit the bill. Leicester goalkeeper Mads Hermansen played a prominent role under Maresca at the King Power Stadium - not only keeping the opposition at bay but also clearing up in behind the Foxes' backline and building play from the back.

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