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9 minutes ago, Pizy said:

If we sign no one I hope Frank is honest and forthright with the fans when he's asked and doesn't feed us any "I'm 100% happy with the squad and we didn't need anyone" bullshit. Don't disrespect our intelligence. If nothing else, just say the club tried everything but couldn't convince clubs to sell important players in the January window.  

I think he's already done this all month long.

He's made it clear that the squad needs strengthening and there are areas to improve so I don't think he's trying to kid anyone that he's 100% happy.

But on the other hand he's also mentioned that January is not a very good window to do business in.

A short term solution has been mooted but the level the club is at there are going to be very few short term options (i.e. a loan deal) which are going to improve us because otherwise the parent club wouldn't be loaning their player out in the first place.

 

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1 hour ago, Tomo said:

Found this on the Shed End and thought it was frightengly applicable here aswell.

True but man we are in a horrible position here. This squad is so out of balance, its not like we just need a player to bolster up. We have serious issues all over the place. We could get Telles or Ziych etc. We could easily....easily miss out on top 4 if we do nothing. And that scares me for the summer both revenue wise and player recruitment. You remove Tammy for 3-4 weeks and we are fucked.

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14 hours ago, Tomo said:

Apart from when he finished with 6th with Zlatan Ibrahimovic leading the line.

Furthermore what he did in the past is irrelevant, he "guarenteed the title in his second season" until he went to United, infact if we're going to base things on past statistics then by your very logic we're guarenteed to win the CL because Kovacic has won it every time he's played in it.

Someone already corrected me on that part but he still won Europa League that season, which still means he secured the CL spot for United. That Kovacic argument is honestly the worst argument I have seen on this website. Comparing Kovacic a player to a football manager doesn't make sense at all.

If you don't judge managers by what they did in the past, then how do you rate them? We are not talking about Jose going for the title btw, so don't bring that up. We are talking about whether he can secure top four for Spurs.

Furthermore, it's funny you only quoted me on one sentence that someone corrected me with before you did. You're clutching at straws mate looool.

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18 minutes ago, Azul said:

That Kovacic argument is honestly the worst argument I have seen on this website. Comparing Kovacic a player to a football manager doesn't make sense at all.

So in other words, we can only use 'the past' logic when it works against Chelsea?

18 minutes ago, Azul said:

Someone already corrected me on that part but he still won Europa League that season, which still means he secured the CL spot for United. 

If you don't judge managers by what they did in the past, then how do you rate them? We are not talking about Jose going for the title btw, so don't bring that up. We are talking about whether he can secure top four for Spurs.

Which he doesn't have as a get of jail card for another six placed finish this time.

Also if you're so insistent on judging managers on the past, then a bit more research would have showed you that Jose has never since Porto (possibly not even then) achieved either top four or the title from a position where he's chasing (bar I think one week in 2010 when Inter got briefly overhauled by Roma), I'm guessing a change of the goalposts are on the way?

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1 minute ago, Mana said:

We may have to play injured Abraham this weekend if we get no one in. This kid can’t even rest as we have nobody (apart from Giroud, and he isn’t good enough).

This is really bad. Our top 4 race rivals have gotten new players while we at the moment got nothing.

If we don’t get players in now, the summer window will be awful as one or two players in WON’T CUT IT.

NOw some might say the players spurs and manu have just gotten aint something to clap about, but they saw an opportunity and went for it. To help the squad, to have a better chance for top4.

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26 minutes ago, Atomiswave said:

True but man we are in a horrible position here. This squad is so out of balance, its not like we just need a player to bolster up. We have serious issues all over the place. We could get Telles or Ziych etc. We could easily....easily miss out on top 4 if we do nothing. And that scares me for the summer both revenue wise and player recruitment. You remove Tammy for 3-4 weeks and we are fucked.

I don't agree we easily miss out on the top four if we get nothing, the only team capable of punishing us are handicapped with a Championship manager.

Part of the reason we've fallen so far off the top is were so now focused between 12-17, I wouldn't mind a low risk signing like Mertens but do I look at signings made by United/Spurs and think we should have gone there? No, in my opinion.

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9 minutes ago, Tomo said:

So in other words, we can only use 'the past' logic when it works against Chelsea?

Which he doesn't have as a get of jail card for another six placed finish this time.

Also if you're so insistent on judging managers on the past, then a bit more research would have showed you that Jose has never since Porto (possibly not even then) achieved either top four or the title from a position where he's chasing (bar I think one week in 2010 when Inter got briefly overhauled by Roma), I'm guessing a change of the goalposts are on the way?

If you want to have a discussion just for the sake of winning it. Then you have won. You're so stubborn that you have literally dismissed everything I said. I won't waste my time. 

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5 minutes ago, Azul said:

If you want to have a discussion just for the sake of winning it. Then you have won. You're too stubborn that you have literally dismissed everything I said. I won't waste my time. 

You claimed Jose would make top 4 because he always has in his first season at a club (which in itself is wrong).

If you're so insistent on basing his past on what he will do this season, then the fact he's never achieved top four from a chasing position is very much relevant I'm afraid.

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2 minutes ago, Tomo said:

I don't agree we easily miss out on the top four if we get nothing, the only team capable of punishing us are handicapped with a Championship manager.

Part of the reason we've fallen so far off the top is were so now focused between 12-17, I wouldn't mind a low risk signing like Mertens but do I look at signings made by United/Spurs and think we should have gone there? No, in my opinion.

And yet no more than 6-7 pts behind.......thats too risky imo. And I for one wouldnt mind BF, he would do rather well in our midfield I reckon. Ihope he flops at utd though.

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3 minutes ago, Atomiswave said:

And yet no more than 6-7 pts behind.......thats too risky imo. And I for one wouldnt mind BF, he would do rather well in our midfield I reckon. Ihope he flops at utd though.

Bruno would be the exact type of short terminism/fuck the project signing we're trying to shake off.

We have three academy lads in that position, if we're serious about bringing through our own boys #10/LCM is the last position we should be looking to buy bar a complete worldie becoming available.

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1 minute ago, Tomo said:

Bruno would be the exact type of short terminism/fuck the project signing we're trying to shake off.

We have three academy lads in that position, if we're serious about bringing through our own boys #10/LCM is the last position we should be looking to buy bar a complete worldie becoming available.

And you have hope this board would pull off a worldie? I sure dont. BF aint exactly a crap player, he would give our midfield another dimension, something we badly need, big assist maker. He will be a good player for utd you'll see. And midfield might not be what we need the most but still I wouldnt say no to it. I so so cant wait what we do come summer, it either make or break this board.

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4 minutes ago, Atomiswave said:

And you have hope this board would pull off a worldie? I sure dont. BF aint exactly a crap player, he would give our midfield another dimension, something we badly need, big assist maker. He will be a good player for utd you'll see. And midfield might not be what we need the most but still I wouldnt say no to it. I so so cant wait what we do come summer, it either make or break this board.

Whether they do or not isn't really the point, my stance on it is that I have high hopes with Mount, Gallagher and Ruben that I would only want to buy a player in their position if a bonafide worldie is a available.

Bruno despite healthy stats doesn't fall into that category in my opinion.

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