Todd Boehly Thread

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[Superblue 6,372]

On 14/01/2023 at 17:01, OhForAGreavsie said:

I heard, via a YouTuber, that Todd B, along with associates presumably, is interested in buying the NFL's Washington Commanders. If he succeeds he will have my two favourite sports teams in his hands. 

I wouldn't see Washington as a well supported team over these shores, what made you support them?

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On 15/01/2023 at 03:42, Vesper said:

Todd Boehly making a 'very strong push' to buy the Commanders

https://commanderswire.usatoday.com/2023/01/14/dodgers-owner-todd-boehly-making-a-very-strong-push-to-buy-the-washington-commanders/

Does it wipe the plan of buying satellite club and investing in football group or he just have unlimited money or ability to source it via Clearlake?

[OhForAGreavsie 6,057]

53 minutes ago, Superblue said:

I wouldn't see Washington as a well supported team over these shores, what made you support them?

You must be young. 🙂

Washington was once the best supported NFL team in the UK. Overwhelmingly so in fact. To such an extent that the editor of the UK's first NFL magazine once explained to me that he had to publish a minimum amount of Washington coverage in each issue in order to keep his sales up. These were the days of The Hogs, The Fun Bunch, The Diesel and the height of the Washington, Dallas rivalry.

 

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3 minutes ago, OhForAGreavsie said:

You must be young. 🙂

Washington was once the best supported NFL team in the UK. Overwhelmingly so in fact. To such an extent that the editor of the UK's first NFL magazine once explained to me that he had to publish a minimum amount of Washington coverage in each issue in order to keep his sales up. These were the days of The Hogs, The Fun Bunch, The Diesel and the height of the Washington, Dallas rivalry.

 

To be fair I can see a lot of people opposing the Cowboys over here purely because of them being 'America's Team'. Definitely interesting to know and something I wasn't really aware of over here.

I haven't been since before Covid to any of the London games and granted I never went to a Washington game but used to make one each year and usually they were a bit of a circus of fans of all teams and I wouldn't have said they'd be amongst the most well supported.

I'm pretty certain my team are one of the least backed over here mind. Got into NFL about a year after Hurricane Katrina, and got sucked into the idea and "Cinderella story" behind New Orleans rebuilding their team, not to mention the entire city. Believe it was the first year of Sean Payton and Drew Brees and the return back to the Superdome after a year away and I was hooked on the Saints ever after. Year later a Superbowl win too! I have the Chelsea badge and a football helmet with the fleur-de-lis tattooed on the back of each shoulder.

Unfortunately now, it's an ageing, declining team that has mortgaged itself multiple times over by kicking salary caps down the road and giving away draft picks and really is in need of a complete rebuild over the next few years. The combination of the Saints and Chelsea over the last few months has not been healthy to say the least!

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4 minutes ago, Superblue said:

To be fair I can see a lot of people opposing the Cowboys over here purely because of them being 'America's Team'. Definitely interesting to know and something I wasn't really aware of over here.

I haven't been since before Covid to any of the London games and granted I never went to a Washington game but used to make one each year and usually they were a bit of a circus of fans of all teams and I wouldn't have said they'd be amongst the most well supported.

I'm pretty certain my team are one of the least backed over here mind. Got into NFL about a year after Hurricane Katrina, and got sucked into the idea and "Cinderella story" behind New Orleans rebuilding their team, not to mention the entire city. Believe it was the first year of Sean Payton and Drew Brees and the return back to the Superdome after a year away and I was hooked on the Saints ever after. Year later a Superbowl win too! I have the Chelsea badge and a football helmet with the fleur-de-lis tattooed on the back of each shoulder.

Unfortunately now, it's an ageing, declining team that has mortgaged itself multiple times over by kicking salary caps down the road and giving away draft picks and really is in need of a complete rebuild over the next few years. The combination of the Saints and Chelsea over the last few months has not been healthy to say the least!

Huh..never knew you were a Saints and a Chelsea fan.

Same here with the Saints. Mostly because of family in NOLA, and of course the 'Cinderella story' like you mentioned.

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10 minutes ago, Blue Armour said:

Huh..never knew you were a Saints and a Chelsea fan.

Same here with the Saints. Mostly because of family in NOLA, and of course the 'Cinderella story' like you mentioned.

Maybe we need to get the NFL thread on this forum a bit more active 😂

That's sweet mate, I've got no ties to New Orleans but getting to the Superdome for a game and visiting the city in general is on my bucket list one day, probably when the kids have grown up and flew the nest!

[ZAPHOD2319 4,798]

They buy sports franchises that they feel will go up in value significantly. Dan Snyder has destroyed Washington’s market value. They could make a ton of money bringing that franchise back to just were it was and also grow the brand.

 

 

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40 minutes ago, ZAPHOD2319 said:

They buy sports franchises that they feel will go up in value significantly. Dan Snyder has destroyed Washington’s market value. They could make a ton of money bringing that franchise back to just were it was and also grow the brand.

 

 

The facts are that besides Roman putting in conditions to prevent them from taking money out of the club for the next 10 years or whatever the stipulations are, I don't see this being a situation where we get milked every year for dividends. We're not making big profits like United, and given the investment made to buy the club, a few million a year in dividends is a drop in the ocean to paying the ownership back on their investments.

I believe they view the Premier League to continue to grow financially over the next 10 years or so, and that Chelsea and other top clubs in the league could be worth 2x, 3x or more the value they are now. They clearly have identified areas too where they feel they can grow the club in that period and add value to it. 

In 10 years time when they are in a position to make more flexible decisions, they are either sat on a much greater investment than they initially invested and will continue to operate the club, or at that point they will look to sell or divest a proportion of their shareholding in the club to outside investors. In the case of Clearlake I think they'll certainly look at that being the solution. If the club can grow in value 2 or 3 times in that period then theoretically they could divest half or a third of their holding to recoup their initial investment and then still hold a significant stake. 

If I'm correct in my assumptions on this, then I have no problem with it. At the end of the day, we were never getting another Roman, and these guys are businessmen. I think it's easy to look at the Glazers and all American investment is then red flagged and painted with the same brush which is simply not true. 

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13 hours ago, Superblue said:

The facts are that besides Roman putting in conditions to prevent them from taking money out of the club for the next 10 years or whatever the stipulations are, I don't see this being a situation where we get milked every year for dividends. We're not making big profits like United, and given the investment made to buy the club, a few million a year in dividends is a drop in the ocean to paying the ownership back on their investments.

I believe they view the Premier League to continue to grow financially over the next 10 years or so, and that Chelsea and other top clubs in the league could be worth 2x, 3x or more the value they are now. They clearly have identified areas too where they feel they can grow the club in that period and add value to it. 

In 10 years time when they are in a position to make more flexible decisions, they are either sat on a much greater investment than they initially invested and will continue to operate the club, or at that point they will look to sell or divest a proportion of their shareholding in the club to outside investors. In the case of Clearlake I think they'll certainly look at that being the solution. If the club can grow in value 2 or 3 times in that period then theoretically they could divest half or a third of their holding to recoup their initial investment and then still hold a significant stake. 

If I'm correct in my assumptions on this, then I have no problem with it. At the end of the day, we were never getting another Roman, and these guys are businessmen. I think it's easy to look at the Glazers and all American investment is then red flagged and painted with the same brush which is simply not true. 

thank fuck Elon Musk did not buy us!!!!!

[Pizy 18,848]

Was just watching highlights from last nights Lakers game and saw Boehly sitting court side cheering them on. Had to chuckle at that. The dude really does genuinely love supporting the teams he’s involved with. He’s not the Glazers or some of these other horrible owners who care nothing about their clubs and just milk them dry.

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6 hours ago, Pizy said:

Was just watching highlights from last nights Lakers game and saw Boehly sitting court side cheering them on. Had to chuckle at that. The dude really does genuinely love supporting the teams he’s involved with. He’s not the Glazers or some of these other horrible owners who care nothing about their clubs and just milk them dry.

I like that he's not one of those owners who are perpetually hiding. Going on Twitter spaces after the Palace game and constantly being involved at the club is a really good sign.

Doesn't change anything about the scrutiny over his decisions. His track record is horrific so far in his attempt to uproot and overhaul every department at the club. But I'd wait and see how they adapt. The group put together seem to know what they are doing and there is talk Michael Edwards is still being courted to come in from June after his break is over.