milka 3,393 Posted May 17, 2021 Share Posted May 17, 2021 so IF Chelsea - Leicester DRAW Burnley - Liverpool WIN -------- Leicester - 67 Liverpool 66 Chelsea 65 ------ Chelsea - Leicester WIN Burnley- Liverpool WIN ------ Chelsea -67 Leicester -66 Liverpool -66 ------ Chelsea - Leicester LOSS Burnley - Liverpool WIN ------ Leicester - 69 Liverpool - 66 Chelsea - 64 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strike 7,492 Posted May 17, 2021 Share Posted May 17, 2021 Draw is not enough. Have to go for the goals and the win. CHO and Chilwell at wing back - lost their pace in the cup final with Alonso and Azpi playing here. Blue Armour 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoroccanBlue 5,383 Posted May 17, 2021 Share Posted May 17, 2021 Judging from this game alone, we will know if this team has any bottle. Vesper, Fulham Broadway and Blue Armour 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZAPHOD2319 4,819 Posted May 17, 2021 Share Posted May 17, 2021 (edited) This one game will most likely determine top 4 for us. No pressure!! Edited May 17, 2021 by ZAPHOD2319 Vesper 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Lamps 11,692 Posted May 17, 2021 Share Posted May 17, 2021 2 hours ago, MoroccanBlue said: Judging from this game alone, we will know if this team has any bottle. Imo if they had any bottle, they would not have lost 2 FA Cup finals in a row as favourites. but football like life is about how you get up after being knocked down. So maybe they have at least learned from their many mistakes. Blue Armour 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manpe 10,861 Posted May 17, 2021 Share Posted May 17, 2021 3 hours ago, Strike said: Draw is not enough. Have to go for the goals and the win. CHO and Chilwell at wing back - lost their pace in the cup final with Alonso and Azpi playing here. Nah, just put Reece back where he belongs. Yeah he was good at RCB, but we lost offensive impetus by having Azpi there... and Alonso on the opposite side (how many times did he get burnt for pace exactly?). Why we reverted to pragmatism with two slow wing-backs when they should be the ones providing width and pace is beyond me, sometimes it seems Tuchel is tinkering for the sake of tinkering. Our regular line-up with James and Chilly on the wings would have been fine imo. Sure he was afraid of Vardy's pace, but come on now, don't be so scared... No silly changes here please, just go with the tried and tested. bigbluewillie 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superblue 6,372 Posted May 17, 2021 Share Posted May 17, 2021 Did no one bother to ask Tuchel for an injury update? Specifically if Kova and Christensen are fit for tomorrow? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kunka21 12 Posted May 17, 2021 Share Posted May 17, 2021 havertz must start Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted May 17, 2021 Author Share Posted May 17, 2021 3 hours ago, Superblue_1986 said: Did no one bother to ask Tuchel for an injury update? Specifically if Kova and Christensen are fit for tomorrow? No because everyone was/is more interested in the 'collapse' narrative. Superblue 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chippy 342 Posted May 17, 2021 Share Posted May 17, 2021 21 hours ago, Superblue_1986 said: Agreed. I'm not old enough for those days, but I do remember the early to mid 90's when staying in the top division was a big achievement. As grim as the relegation was, once the next season got under way you just naturally get into it like any other season. Home game were not so good because the attendances were very poor, as many thousands had stopped going over number of years - team was shite. stadium a dump. terrible fan reputation with hooligans and a lot of real, hardcore racists. I well remember a game at West Brom when literally thousands of Chelsea fans gave the Nazi salute. The racism aside though, the away games were amongst the best fun I've ever had watching football. Though our home attendance's were terrible, we had a very loyal and large following away and they gave the team great vocal support. Much better atmospheres than what you get a lot of the time these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NikkiCFC 8,327 Posted May 18, 2021 Share Posted May 18, 2021 8 hours ago, manpe said: Why we reverted to pragmatism with two slow wing-backs when they should be the ones providing width and pace is beyond me Chilwell and James is also pragmatic approach if you ask me. We pretty much won all the games that CHO started under Tuchel. He is constant threat as RWB. Definitely one extra offensive player. Tuchel is thinking about defensive part of the game but come on... We have 3 CBs, basically two DMs... We have around 65% possession... CHO only has to track back a couple of times and that is it... Strike 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Armour 4,448 Posted May 18, 2021 Share Posted May 18, 2021 (edited) On 16/05/2021 at 16:27, Tomo said: I always laugh when people say "we csnt attract quality players with out CL". There's a huge list of top class players who joined teams in worse positions than ours without CL, i mean peak Ronaldinho did for it ffs While I agree that losing out the on the CL does not mean we can't attract talent, it does reduce our options. Remember, Hazard ended up joining us partly because we secured the CL for that season. Granted players like Drogba and Joe Cole influenced him, but every bit helps. The other fact is it would mean missing out on the CL for the 3rd time in nearly 5 years. I know with 6 clubs competing financially, there's always the risk of missing out, but to do so against Leicester or West Ham is embarassing. Especially after this season. Giving up top 4 if it meant we secured a trophy in the FA cup, would have been alright. But we didn't. And no we're facing the same team that denied us that and also resulted in Lampard's departure. We HAVE to go all out. Edited May 18, 2021 by Blue Armour Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Armour 4,448 Posted May 18, 2021 Share Posted May 18, 2021 6 hours ago, chippy said: . I well remember a game at West Brom when literally thousands of Chelsea fans gave the Nazi salute. I know it was a while ago, but what was the reason behind it? Was it just fans who didnt know any better? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDA 9,941 Posted May 18, 2021 Share Posted May 18, 2021 8 hours ago, chippy said: As grim as the relegation was, once the next season got under way you just naturally get into it like any other season. Home game were not so good because the attendances were very poor, as many thousands had stopped going over number of years - team was shite. stadium a dump. terrible fan reputation with hooligans and a lot of real, hardcore racists. I well remember a game at West Brom when literally thousands of Chelsea fans gave the Nazi salute. The racism aside though, the away games were amongst the best fun I've ever had watching football. Though our home attendance's were terrible, we had a very loyal and large following away and they gave the team great vocal support. Much better atmospheres than what you get a lot of the time these days. Away days have always been a better experience than the home games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milan 17,959 Posted May 18, 2021 Share Posted May 18, 2021 This is pretty shocking - last time we beat them in the League? September 2017 (!!!!!) under Conte. We just have to go for it tonight. Get ahead of them in the table and they face Spurs in the last game. Please 🙏 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,141 Posted May 18, 2021 Share Posted May 18, 2021 Has the feeling of the Jesper Gronkjaer game. bigbluewillie 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chippy 342 Posted May 18, 2021 Share Posted May 18, 2021 5 hours ago, Blue Armour said: I know it was a while ago, but what was the reason behind it? Was it just fans who didnt know any better? I honestly donh know why Chelsea attracted such a relitively large number of the extreme right. Seemed to come out of the blue and happened quickly. It was said the NF/BNP used to recruit outside the stadium, though I have to say i never noticed any. Lots of clubs had their share of hooligans and also some who would dish out racist abuse to the opposition black players, but some Chelsea fans went even further and abused our own Paul Canoville. I also think that a lot of the hooligan racists at other clubs only really behaved like that at football matches. The abuse was to put players off their game and some just thought making monkey noises was funny, As crude as that. I've read and heard accounts from ex hooligans who said as much. The Chelsea thugs were different though. They were more genuinely attracted to hardcore, extreme right politics. Blue Armour 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chippy 342 Posted May 18, 2021 Share Posted May 18, 2021 2 hours ago, DDA said: Away days have always been a better experience than the home games. But the difference was more pronounced back then with the Bridge being half empty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted May 18, 2021 Share Posted May 18, 2021 2 hours ago, Milan said: This is pretty shocking - last time we beat them in the League? September 2017 (!!!!!) under Conte. We just have to go for it tonight. Get ahead of them in the table and they face Spurs in the last game. Please 🙏 It's beyond strange that the last time Leicester were at The Bridge was Mount's home debut. So so much has happened since then both at the club and in general life. Strike 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chippy 342 Posted May 18, 2021 Share Posted May 18, 2021 I can't make up my mind which I want more. A stonking 5 - 0 or the pain for Liverpool fans with a last second winner coming from a frantic scramble, where the bounces off Kai's arse onto Mounts knee and then rises up to hit Werner on the back of the head and dribbles over the line into the back of the net. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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