The Tuchel Thread

[Vesper 30,079]

Potter.

As I have been saying.

[ZAPHOD2319 4,798]

I can still appreciate Tuchel, but honestly playing our players out of position and attempting to make every player a wingback was getting very tiresome. We buy the best players at their positions, we might get the best out of them at those positions.

[LAM09 7,043]

1 hour ago, milka said:

Tuchel’s ideas were no longer transmitting. He’d stopped getting through. It probably didn’t help that some of the players had been talking about his private life, and how he had a younger girlfriend as his marriage fell apart.

Sources maintain that Tuchel initially wanted to move away from a fixed number-nine, only to completely go back on that. “He’ll say one thing,” one figure says, “then complain when it is done.

Every transfer decision was put past Tuchel. He wasn’t given a single player he didn’t want. This meant he overruled some big deals, including Cristiano Ronaldo and Jules Kounde. (via

@MiguelDelaney

 

That answers that. It makes our transfer business even more bizarre & we're stuck with these players for the long haul.

[Vesper 30,079]

6 minutes ago, Alabama said:

Another manager bite the dust....

Hope terrible and poor players like Pulisic and Ziyech are happy now...

Fuck those clowns. I was absolutely against both buys, and proven to be correct. We have other sludge here as well. Surely Jorginho's days are numbered, to name just at one. 

[DH1988 1,346]

Brighton given us permission to speak to Potter.

[Johnnyeye 7,501]

you’re a wizard Harry memes incoming

[Alabama 1,992]

3 minutes ago, Vesper said:

Fuck those clowns. I was absolutely against both buys, and proven to be correct. We have other sludge here as well. Surely Jorginho's days are numbered, to name just at one. 

I will pay to take Jorginho back to naples..

[gdlk 286]

If i am on the place on Boehly I'll make secret inveatigation and analisys of players metamorhposis and if in some miracle some of them start performing like when we won ucl I'll sell them ASAP! You dont nees traitors in the team. 

Edited September 7, 2022 by gdlk

[Pizy 18,847]

Really hope Potter can at the very least get us looking like a competent side in the final third within a couple of weeks. Surely it’ll take a while to get us looking 100% transformed, but we VERY QUICKLY need to look like we’ve got a clue and some patterns to our attacking play.

[Blues Forever 1,232]

 

[Superblue 6,372]

Something to consider with Potter. His first two seasons at Brighton they finished 15th, then 16th and had real struggles with scoring goals despite the plaudits for the way they tried to play football.

It's easy to look at their top half finish last season and the start of this season and ignore the work and the struggles that he had in the first two years at Brighton. 

Are people willing to give him that time here? Both board and fans.

[Bren 41]

5 minutes ago, Pizy said:

Really hope Potter can at the very least get us looking like a competent side in the final third within a couple of weeks. Surely it’ll take a while to get us looking 100% transformed, but we VERY QUICKLY need to look like we’ve got a clue and some patterns to our attacking play.

I'm hopeful. It's early days at United but Ten Hag has shown what a coach can do in a couple of weeks (they were beyond abysmal).

[Blues Forever 1,232]

3 minutes ago, Superblue_1986 said:

Something to consider with Potter. His first two seasons at Brighton they finished 15th, then 16th and had real struggles with scoring goals despite the plaudits for the way they tried to play football.

It's easy to look at their top half finish last season and the start of this season and ignore the work and the struggles that he had in the first two years at Brighton. 

Are people willing to give him that time here? Both board and fans.

No chance.

[ZAPHOD2319 4,798]

4 minutes ago, Superblue_1986 said:

Something to consider with Potter. His first two seasons at Brighton they finished 15th, then 16th and had real struggles with scoring goals despite the plaudits for the way they tried to play football.

It's easy to look at their top half finish last season and the start of this season and ignore the work and the struggles that he had in the first two years at Brighton. 

Are people willing to give him that time here? Both board and fans.

Those years did he have top players to compete? I think when a manager comes in with a clear plan, the level of players that we have will respond quickly. the new manager bounce is all well and good, but you have to have the players to make it happen.

[different level 1,056]

I'm extremely disappointed, not going to lie. For the first time in a long time I thought we had a world class manager who is here for the long run and who we're going to back and give him time when things are not great. Now I feel like a dumbass and I'm not excited at all for the rest of the season especially when I see we're after someone as mediocre as Potter.

I genuinely see this as the most unfair and premature sacking since Carlo in 2011.

Edited September 7, 2022 by different level

[Pizy 18,847]

Wonder where Tuchel lands btw. Fortunately for us there aren’t going to be any openings at the top PL clubs any time soon so this sacking won’t haunt us directly within our league. 

Real Madrid to succeed Ancelotti when he probably retires after this season?

[Superblue 6,372]

1 minute ago, ZAPHOD2319 said:

Those years did he have top players to compete? I think when a manager comes in with a clear plan, the level of players that we have will respond quickly. the new manager bounce is all well and good, but you have to have the players to make it happen.

I think the comparison would be that despite maybe impacting the style of play, in terms of raw numbers and results, his impact for the first two years was negligible in comparison to Brighton under Chris Hughton, i.e. just about being good enough to stay up.

He may improve our football in a short time but that doesn't necessarily guarantee improving our results. 

Would people accept potentially taking a step back to take 2 or 3 steps forward, and by that I mean a season outside the top 4 if we see an improvement on the style of play and are playing more exciting football?

[LAM09 7,043]

10 minutes ago, Blues Forever said:

No chance.

If the team starts playing attacking football, that provides us with an opportunity to grow & CL football, he'll be given a chance. The issue is undoing the damage from previous windows that continues to affect every manager that walks through these doors.

Edited September 7, 2022 by LAM09