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  1. 1. Who is your Man of the Match?

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And just like that, we are +8 points compared to last season's corresponding fixtures. If you want something positive from tonight.

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the whole game changes when Jorginho goes off he is fucking dire

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Mana it's Xmas cheer up mate 👍👍👍

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That's at youth level. You're asking a lot of an 18-year-old to come in and produce in a must win game. 
Lampard will play Azpi, I know.
But Livramento is close to breaking an assist record at the beginning of the season. He can't do more than that.

Azpi is horrific at going forward.
I know many of TC will say that when we will not produce that many chances the next couple of matches, they will say Lampard is the worst offensive coach of all time blabla. One reason why our next matches from an offensive point of view will be bad is that Azpi is playing.


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6 minutes ago, MoroccanBlue said:

So is James out for the season?

Don't think it's an ACL injury. The article said he's been playing with a slight discomfort to his knee in the last few games and now had a scan to see if there's any damage or if it's something that just needs a bit of rest.

If he needs surgery, I'd expect him to be out for at least a couple months. Guess we'll know more in the coming days.

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Just now, killer1257 said:

Lampard will play Azpi, I know.
But Livramento is close to breaking an assist record at the beginning of the season. He can't do more than that.

Azpi is horrific at going forward.
I know many of TC will say that when we will not produce that many chances the next couple of matches, they will say Lampard is the worst offensive coach of all time blabla. One reason why our next matches from an offensive point of view will be bad is that Azpi is playing.

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So, we should just ignore the defensive side of the game? :carlo: 

Either way, you're still asking a lot of an 18-year-old. Just because he's doing well at youth level right now, it doesn't mean he will be able to make the step up immediately. And not to mention, he just played on Friday and there's the whole team bubble thing going on. At most, he'll be on the bench as a backup.

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So, we should just ignore the defensive side of the game? :carlo: 
Either way, you're still asking a lot of an 18-year-old. Just because he's doing well at youth level right now, it doesn't mean he will be able to make the step up immediately. And not to mention, he just played on Friday and there's the whole team bubble thing going on. At most, he'll be on the bench as a backup.


True, but with Azpi now playing, Ziyech and Puli need to be fit and find their form asap. RJ was our best player in recent matches,especially going forward.

Sadly, RJ is very injury prone, just like many, of our best youth products [emoji24]

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2 minutes ago, killer1257 said:

True, but with Azpi now playing, Ziyech and Puli need to be fit and find their form asap. RJ was our best player in recent matches,especially going forward.

Sadly, RJ is very injury prone, just like many, of our best youth products emoji24.png

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Another concern is if James is out injured, then Azpi will have to play 2 games in 3 days next week. :doh: 

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12 minutes ago, Jason said:

Death.

Taxes.

Some random injury popping up after a free week under Lampard. 

Been a pattern all season. Get important player back from niggling injury, another important player gets injured. Unlike Liverpool we don't have a world class coach with an incredible system in place so we will feel these big injuries much more.

If RJ is out for a lengthy spell our opponents will be delighted. Such a massive factor defenses have to worry about will gone. They almost don't have to worry much about Azpi and can focus on the attacker instead.

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1 minute ago, Pizy said:

Been a pattern all season. Get important player back from niggling injury, another important player gets injured. Unlike Liverpool we don't have a world class coach with an incredible system in place so we will feel these big injuries much more.

If RJ is out for a lengthy spell our opponents will be delighted. Such a massive factor defenses have to worry about will gone. They almost don't have to worry much about Azpi and can focus on the attacker instead.

Azpi might not be as good going forward as James but he gets too much undeserved stick. James is the better crosser but Azpi is the better passer.

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Azpi might not be as good going forward as James but he gets too much undeserved stick. James is the better crosser but Azpi is the better passer.
In what regard is Azpi a better passer than RJ? RJ this season has a better pass percentage than Azpi last season. I don't think that Azpi plays fabrepasses

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2 minutes ago, killer1257 said:

In what regard is Azpi a better passer than RJ? RJ this season has a better pass percentage than Azpi last season. I don't think that Azpi plays fabrepasses

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And James plays Fabregas-esque passes?

No one said anything about Azpi playing Fabregas-esque passes anyway. 

The passing % doesn't tell anything as well, because someone's can be higher than another person's if the former only passes to a nearby teammate for example or if one takes more risks than the other. 

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13 minutes ago, NikkiCFC said:

Naturally it would be Azpi but after seeing how random Liverpool kids no one ever heard of replaced VVD, TAA why not?

Pretty sure Klopp has played those "random Liverpool kids no one ever heard of" in cup games before. 

Also, it's funny how people have been criticizing Lampard and saying this is a must win game but wants to play an 18-year-old in such a high pressure game. If it doesn't work out well and we lose, people will jump even more on Lampard...

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9 minutes ago, Jason said:

 

Also, it's funny how people have been criticizing Lampard and saying this is a must win game but wants to play an 18-year-old in such a high pressure game. If it doesn't work out well and we lose, people will jump even more on Lampard...

Plastic fans... What can you expect :ph34r::lol:

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19 minutes ago, Jason said:

Pretty sure Klopp has played those "random Liverpool kids no one ever heard of" in cup games before. 

Also, it's funny how people have been criticizing Lampard and saying this is a must win game but wants to play an 18-year-old in such a high pressure game. If it doesn't work out well and we lose, people will jump even more on Lampard...

And Livramento!

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1 hour ago, killer1257 said:

Lampard will play Azpi, I know.
But Livramento is close to breaking an assist record at the beginning of the season. He can't do more than that.

Azpi is horrific at going forward.
I know many of TC will say that when we will not produce that many chances the next couple of matches, they will say Lampard is the worst offensive coach of all time blabla. One reason why our next matches from an offensive point of view will be bad is that Azpi is playing.


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Or maybe Lampard should create tactics outside of crossing from James...

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6 minutes ago, Jason said:

IIRC, Gilmour got some stick when Lampard brought him on in that 2-2 draw with Sheffield United last season.

I remember he got a bit of a slaughtering after the United cup game!

Although that said while i certainly wouldn't start Livramento i wouldn't be against putting him as a wildcard #2  if James is out for a while if Lampard or especially Jody feel he's ready, this time last year the exact same situation arrised with RJ injury and we drafted in Lamptey in a certain fixtures we have coming up.

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1 minute ago, Tomo said:

I remember he got a bit of a slaughtering after the United cup game!

Although that said while i certainly wouldn't start Livramento i wouldn't be against putting him as a wildcard #2  if James is out for a while if Lampard or especially Jody feel he's ready, this time last year the exact same situation arrised with RJ injury and we drafted in Lamptey in a certain fixtures we have coming up.

I can see Livramento being called to the first team as backup for the upcoming games, if James has to sit out for awhile, but I highly doubt he'll play on Monday when he just played on Friday and not sure if he can just jump from one team bubble to another on such short notice. 

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Anyone else struggling to motivate themselves for this one? As much as we banter Moyes for his United failure his WHU side are starting to resemble his best Everton teams and they were cunts to play against. 

Even on form i'd be wary of this one, on recent form it's got a frustrating night written all over it!

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