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19 minutes ago, Tomo said:

No they won't become supermen but they could maybe have had their flaws somewhat hidden by the system, look at what's happening with Liverpool for example, they are top of the league with Lovren, Shaqiri and Henderson (probably even more flawed than the guys you mentioned) playing significant minutes.

Lovren and Shaqiri aren't exactly starters for Liverpool are they. And they aren't Liverpool's top men either.

Also I think what you're saying here applies to again, players like Kante who isn't an attacker but can have that flaw covered up. Even Giroud can have that flaw hidden of not scoring goals, IF we are scoring goals. But for someone like Morata, who couldn't even stay onside? Gets bullied easily? Loses the ball too many times? These flaws cannot be hidden on most systems, certainly not in a Sarri system.

Lastly, I need to point this out. So let's go with your reason about players not having enough training time. Should we just give up now for the remainder of the season? Because we cannot rewind the clock back! What are we doing to fix the problems that we have now? That's the elephant in the room here. Pulisic isn't the answer as he's not here 'til next season. Sarri has to think long and hard before that 4th place slips from our fingers.

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Today has clearly showed the bar which Chelsea must work towards reaching. At this moment we are pretty far away but the overreaction today on this forum is incredible. Sarri has been at the club

The decline in performances is a lot down to one thing, The lack of training pitch time. He is coming in, trying to teach the squad a totally different brand of football to what the players are a

I'm telling you now, to all the SarriOut supporters.... you don't know how lucky we are to have a humble manager like Sarri... a man with principle, passion, an expansive free flowing footballing phil

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12 hours ago, Tomo said:

I never said it was all about training time, but it plays a massive part of it. @Unionjack this is in some ways a reply to what you're saying too.

To use another analogy, if you were an officer trained on homicide cases and move to child protection, you will need a fair bit of training to perfect it. In a footballing sense the shift from Conte to Sarri is almost as extreme and the training time since Sarri's arrival has been pretty broken.

Of Course there's some average players that need overhauling, but sod all time to train and implement a new system is a killer, especially when it's miles in difference from the last one.

Agree to alot  and of course a proper pre season makes a big difference and changing out style 100% is a major thing.

But we have seen from a early time upto Shitty that theres been times we have IMO played great attacking football and that his way of playing works against the likes of Shitty and Victimpool/

We just dont seem to have the ability to remember - or put into practice - what we do from week to week.

And I'll say it again theres something missing in our players character - or THE TEAMS character. We dont have that urge to win. OK we have been real unluckyy and we would be much better with a overhaul, but till we get into the players heads the song will remain the same (Set you up @Fulham Broadway =D)

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We are in desperate need of a striker. Nothing has relaced Diego. Two really, when you look at our rivals they have plenty.

Theres not much else wrong tbh. There is if you go looking for things, but the fundamental negative is the lack of a ruthless target man.

 

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1 minute ago, Fulham Broadway said:

We are in desperate need of a striker. Nothing has relaced Diego. Two really, when you look at our rivals they have plenty.

Theres not much else wrong tbh. There is if you go looking for things, but the fundamental negative is the lack of a ruthless target man.

 

We do have to get another goal scorer apart from striker mate. A ACM would be perfect cause we dont have 1 to give us goals.

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9 minutes ago, Unionjack said:

We do have to get another goal scorer apart from striker mate. A ACM would be perfect cause we dont have 1 to give us goals.

Two striking options is ideal, but would settle for one atm. A target man which would take defenders away from Hazard, Willian etc.

Have the feeling they will sort it this month, but it depends who it is. We don't want a Morata mk 2.

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8 hours ago, Vesper said:

 

Jody is not wrong, is he?

Don't play them in league games? Fine. Don't play them in cup games, against lowly teams? That's just nonsense.

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22 minutes ago, Jason said:

Jody is not wrong, is he?

Don't play them in league games? Fine. Don't play them in cup games, against lowly teams? That's just nonsense.

Our coaches are at fault. CHO played a world class pre season.He destroyed Inter and Arsenal and he was our best player against Manchester City. What did Sarri then do? He put a fucking Moses in front of CHO, so CHO could not get any play time anymore. Fucking Moses. This says a lot about the mentatlity of our coaches.

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Jody is just saying how it is. Chelsea and Chelsea managers in particular have been exceptionally bad at integrating youth into the first team and everyone on the planet knows this. No need to sugar coat it

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It's nothing new though. all our managers have done the same -this winds up a lot of fans  ''play da fucken yoof !''. 

it must be the boards agenda to play 'ready made' articles. With CHO and others they look at invoices profit/loss, loan potential revenue. This is always a priority consideration against success on the pitch.

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And it's something Jose once said first time round when everyone raved about the Arsenal lot.. He'd like the opportunity to play youth and all but pressure to win trophies and deliver results is there.. 

No point having a youth team if none of them get anywhere at any stage. 

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38 minutes ago, Laylabelle said:

And it's something Jose once said first time round when everyone raved about the Arsenal lot.. He'd like the opportunity to play youth and all but pressure to win trophies and deliver results is there.. 

No point having a youth team if none of them get anywhere at any stage. 

Managers forever using the 'it's hard to play the kids because there is pressure to win' excuse is BS. We are a big club, aiming to win big things and that pressure is always gonna be there every season. At what point are the managers gonna play them? Are they really gonna only play them in the dead rubber games, which there will only be like 1-2 games per season? What would be the point of that? It's like Jody said above, it's basically about trust. They will not be perfect from the get-go and will make mistakes but it's about having faith in them, believing that they will make a difference etc. 

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26 minutes ago, Jason said:

Managers forever using the 'it's hard to play the kids because there is pressure to win' excuse is BS. We are a big club, aiming to win big things and that pressure is always gonna be there every season. At what point are the managers gonna play them? Are they really gonna only play them in the dead rubber games, which there will only be like 1-2 games per season? What would be the point of that? It's like Jody said above, it's basically about trust. They will not be perfect from the get-go and will make mistakes but it's about having faith in them, believe that they will make a difference etc. 

Agree with what he's said yet there doesn't seem to be that trust. Make mistakes and that seems to be limited play after that or sent on loan. Which obviously helps but if loan after loan after loan... Off elsewhere back in years.. 

And that's why I don't get the whole need experience in games argument either. Not going to get experince if not played. Especially at the moment with our play being a bit meh and results not being that amazing. Might as well try someone new and see how play under different sort of pressure. 

Hopefully the chance today will be good.. And not lose lol cause that won go down well.. 

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9 minutes ago, Jason said:

Managers forever using the 'it's hard to play the kids because there is pressure to win' excuse is BS

I can see why there is this fans romantic youth notion, but it's sentimental in business.

If the board have sanctioned £30m and £40m signings managers are not going to jeopardise their position by going against the grain.They want to play safe, they  have their CV and reputation to consider and also do not want to upset the Russian and the board, biting the hand that feeds them.

 

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