The Mourinho Thread

[Fernando 6,467]

Mourinho parked the bus to get a CL title. This fucker parked the bus to get 1 point at mid season with zero strategical interest.

The circumstances doesn't change a thing.

But I do get the point where he just blatantly is being hypocrite to deflect attention from the players to him.

SAF did it, Wenger does it, so it's a common thing.

The funny thing is that people don't like it, just like fans here didn't like SAF for his hypocrisy and Wenger constant moaning, but hey each coach did/does what suits them best.

[The Chels 2,502]

Mata and De Bruyne - limited athleticism and physicality (something which wouldn't normally hinder an AM) but technically very good/world class = sidelined and sold

Ramires and Ivanovic - good athleticism (Ramires) and physicality (Ivan), but technically atrocious (to the extent you wonder how they are footballers) = untouchables

Mindboggling. Can someone explain the reasoning to me?!

Azpilicueta at RB & Cole/Bertrand at LB > Ivanovic at RB & Azpi/Bertrand/Cole at LB

Any decent central midfielder > Ramires

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Mindboggling. Can someone explain the reasoning to me?!

Mourinho values athleticism alongside technical ability.

[nono 791]

Mata and De Bruyne - limited athleticism and physicality (something which wouldn't normally hinder an AM) but technically very good/world class = sidelined and sold

Ramires and Ivanovic - good athleticism (Ramires) and physicality (Ivan), but technically atrocious (to the extent you wonder how they are footballers) = untouchables

Mindboggling. Can someone explain the reasoning to me?!

Azpilicueta at RB & Cole/Bertrand at LB > Ivanovic at RB & Azpi/Bertrand/Cole at LB

Any decent central midfielder > Ramires

This is Mourinho's philosophy. Defense over offense.

[The Chels 2,502]

Mourinho values athleticism alongside technical ability.

Huh? None of those 4 players have both, but why is athleticism being given grave preference over technical ability to the extent that players with world class abilities (Mata) cannot make the squad but those who break down attack after attack through lack of passing and crossing ability (Ivanovic and Ramires) play near enough every game?

This is Mourinho's philosophy. Defense over offense.

Giving the ball away time after time adversely affects defense in that the opposition gain possession lots and fewer goals are likely to be scored offensively leading to more pressure on the defense. Plus it's not as though Ramires and Ivanovic are great defensively. Ivanovic gets done all the time.

Mourinho only sees the flaws in players that he wants to see, it would seem! If he sidelines Mata and De Bruyne for not being good enough all-round players, then why not Ivanovic and Ramires too? He must think they're good enough otherwise Azpilicueta would be playing as would a better CM (one bought in, perhaps).

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Huh? None of those 4 players have both, but why is athleticism being given grave preference over technical ability to the extent that players with world class abilities (Mata) cannot make the squad but those who break down attack after attack through lack of passing and crossing ability (Ivanovic and Ramires) play near enough every game?

Because you have a mix of players in the team. You have the water carriers in the team who get the ball and then give it to the magicians.

Ivanovic gets done all the time.

Lets not talk shit. He's a very solid defender who offers a threat at set-pieces as well.

[The Chels 2,502]

Because you have a mix of players in the team. You have the water carriers in the team who get the ball and then give it to the magicians.

Lets not talk shit. He's a very solid defender who offers a threat at set-pieces as well.

Oh they give it to the magicians do they? I didn't realise the magicians were in the crowd. And yes Ivanovic does offer a threat at set-pieces - the threat of conceding a free-kick or scoring once in a blue moon. Brilliant.

[AswinR 96]

Mata and De Bruyne - limited athleticism and physicality (something which wouldn't normally hinder an AM) but technically very good/world class = sidelined and sold

Ramires and Ivanovic - good athleticism (Ramires) and physicality (Ivan), but technically atrocious (to the extent you wonder how they are footballers) = untouchables

Mindboggling. Can someone explain the reasoning to me?!

Azpilicueta at RB & Cole/Bertrand at LB > Ivanovic at RB & Azpi/Bertrand/Cole at LB

Any decent central midfielder > Ramires

mata and de bruyne competed with hazard ,oscar and willian ......(all worldclass though de bruyne not that level yet..)

ramires competes with lampard & mikel

now do you see why?!!

as far as cole & bertrand goes even i am confused but as for yesterday mourinho got his tactics wrong yesterday..

he was being precautious and it backfired in his face... i think cole and azpi should have started but guess jose was afraid of west ham targeting cole and azpi during crosses.....

as for how bad ivanovic is do you remember the match against napoli when he took a brilliant shot to seal the game?and he is a pretty decent defender!!

no player at chelsea is bad...except for our strikers(who arent bad but just not worldclass and misfiring!!)

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Oh they give it to the magicians do they? I didn't realise the magicians were in the crowd. And yes Ivanovic does offer a threat at set-pieces - the threat of conceding a free-kick or scoring once in a blue moon. Brilliant.

No magicians in the crowd but plenty of comedians apparently.

[The Chels 2,502]

mata and de bruyne competed with hazard ,oscar and willian ......(all worldclass though de bruyne not that level yet..)

ramires competes with lampard & mikel

now do you see why?!!

Guarantee you Ramires will still be a starting-eleven player next season. There has been no indication whatsoever on Mourinho's behalf that he is not happy with Ramires' performances, and I am very sure he will still be a regular and continue not being able to pass, shoot or cross. No reinforcements are needed though because Ramires has good stamina and that's all a central midfielder earning millions at the highest level of professional football needs of course.

as for how bad ivanovic is do you remember the match against napoli when he took a brilliant shot to seal the game?and he is a pretty decent defender!!

no player at chelsea is bad...except for our strikers(who arent bad but just not worldclass and misfiring!!)

Brilliant? For his standards, perhaps. Otherwise it was decent but call me again when that becomes anything close to not being the exception. Plus to compensate for such a grand lack of ability on the ball you have to be much, much more than just a 'decent defender' with no pace.

[NishC300 1,865]

Mourinho parked the bus to get a CL title. This fucker parked the bus to get 1 point at mid season with zero strategical interest.

So you expect Alladyce to win the CL with West Ham? ok.....

[NishC300 1,865]

Mata and De Bruyne - limited athleticism and physicality (something which wouldn't normally hinder an AM) but technically very good/world class = sidelined and sold

Ramires and Ivanovic - good athleticism (Ramires) and physicality (Ivan), but technically atrocious (to the extent you wonder how they are footballers) = untouchables

Mindboggling. Can someone explain the reasoning to me?!

Azpilicueta at RB & Cole/Bertrand at LB > Ivanovic at RB & Azpi/Bertrand/Cole at LB

Any decent central midfielder > Ramires

Remember the two home games with Stoke in 2012? It was a Mata moment of brilliance in both that helped us win 1-0.

[Tomo 21,733]

This is Mourinho's philosophy. Defense over offense.

Thats why he regularly takes off defenders to bring on midfielders or forwards when chasing games.

[The Chels 2,502]

Remember the two home games with Stoke in 2012? It was a Mata moment of brilliance in both that helped us win 1-0.

Indeed. I would be much more accepting of Mourinho's decision to sideline Mata if he was consistent in his approach. Seems like he wants the players to be more all-round, but the fact that he plays Ramires and Ivanovic every game says it all really.

Thats why he regularly takes off defenders to bring on midfielders or forwards when chasing games.

Then again he goes defensive when we're winning, which at times is really annoying. Winning 3-0 vs United and a thrasing could well have been the order of the day. They themselves sensed it bringing on a defender.

[TacticalBlues 2,817]

This is Mourinho's philosophy. Defense over offense.

Mourinho's philosophy is neither offensive nor defensive, it's winning.

[NishC300 1,865]

Just a quick question I'd like to ask you all?

Liverpool were leading 4-0 at home to Everton and went on the hunt for more,

while when we were leading 3-0 against United (or lead in any game) we decide to shut up shop rather than hunt for more. Why all this negativity?

[bushman 2,043]

Personally, I find it funny to read Jose accusing West Ham playing 19th century football today.

If I remember correctly, back in 2010 the CL game of Inter vs Barca he has done exactly the same parking the bus shit as we saw last night.

So did Jose expect any different from West Ham if he was in the same position ?

[NishC300 1,865]

Mourinho's philosophy is neither offensive nor defensive, it's winning.

Tactical genius is Mourinho! Never realised the point of the game was to win!

So that means all other manager's philosophy is to lose?

btw even that winning thing u said can be argued against since he has gone into some games this season just looking to draw lol