The Mourinho Thread

[AndersonBLUE 819]

There will always be some overreactions from fans, football deals with emotions (and strong ones), so that is inevitable.

However, most of the criticisms I have seen on the forums are fair ones. People are just expressing their opinions on why they think we are playing so bad and not getting the results...

I highly disagree most of the posts are knee-jerk reactions, 90% of the posts I have read are constructive criticism.

You're right and perhaps I generalized too much. But it's just frustrating to see some so called 'Chelsea fans' slagging off every little thing, or trolling in every post they make.

[Rmpr 8,977]

I think if it's unfair criticism that is ignorant of the position we're in as a club, then I do question the support that people are giving to the club. It's very easy to call yourself a supporter when things are going well and we're winning trophies but those glories don't come overnight.

You question the support of others because they post criticisms on an internet forum?

[The only place to be 11,313]

You question the support of others because they post criticisms on an internet forum?

It makes me wonder why people support the club when they say certain things.

[The Mak 4,459]

Because Lampard and Ivanovic haven't been playing like they did yesterday since the start of the season. The kneejerk reaction is to take a recent run of bad form (which they've both had for different reasons and to different degrees) and apply it to the whole season.

Maybe not, but people have still been worried about their constancy in José's side and now teams seem to exploiting that and their weakness (e.g. allowing Ivanovic to have as much of the ball as he wants because he's useless going forward with it). So I still don't think they're kneejerk reactions.

[Rmpr 8,977]

It makes me wonder why people support the club when they say certain things.

Again, thinking that supporting a club is about not saying anything bad about it!

Supporting a club is just like loving a family member. You will stand by it unconditionally and defend it with all your heart and effort. However, it doesnt mean you agree with everything nor it means you think it is perfect...

We are all here as Chelsea fans, debating what each and everyone thinks it is best for the club. and posting criticisms are part of the package!

I will repeat, 90% of the posts I have read are constructive criticisms from decent members!

You dont get to question someone else's support just because you disagree with them. You are not a better supporter than anyone around here. We all watch the games and give 100% of our energy for Chelsea to win (some have the privilege to wathc it live, some dont).

[BOSS 372]

I like Mou as a coach, I am even a fan. But i have got to say he seems lost. Not only that but they way he treats Juan is very disgusting. Why has he picked Oscar all these games?! He played 11 games (9 full games) and he has 0 assists ffs! His stubbornness is what worries me. He says that he picks players based on performances but what from I have seen he has his favourites. What I can't understand is why? Why would you treat a player of Mata's calibur and attitude like this? He is down to earth and he gives everything for Chelsea he is a player of Ozil's level. Why would he pick Oscar at CFC? Because he tracks back?? How about Ozil at RM, did he track back and defend? NO! And even so has Oscar defending helped us from conceding? Not at all, we have been conceding goals against midtable clubs.

So i really don't understand what is going on atm.

Another thing is he should accept that Lampard is getting old and that he can't play deep. Put Mikel there for now and buy a new CDM in the upcoming transfer window.

Ivanovic is a good defender but he is not good at going forward (playing offensive football) which means that he is a CB who is playing as a fullback. I think that Azzpi deserves to be the starting RB for us. He is very good both defensively and offensively. So I guess that Iva needs a shot to play alongside Terry.

[The only place to be 11,313]

Again, thinking that supporting a club is about not saying anything bad about it!

Wait to quote it, im editing it...

Not at all. There are legitimate concerns within the context of us rebuilding.

But honestly, I don't think this is a conversation we need to have.

Maybe not, but people have still been worried about their constancy in José's side and now teams seem to exploiting that and their weakness (e.g. allowing Ivanovic to have as much of the ball as he wants because he's useless going forward with it). So I still don't think they're kneejerk reactions.

Ivanovic is playing because there isn't anyone else

People moaned about Cole being selected - he's been dropped. People moaned about Azpi not playing - he's been playing.

I like Mou as a coach, I am even a fan. But i have got to say he seems lost. Not only that but they way he treats Juan is very disgusting. Why has he picked Oscar all these games?! He played 11 games (9 full games) and he has 0 assists ffs!

How many goals does he have?

How many matches was he Man of the Match?

[BOSS 372]

How many goals does he have?

How many matches was he Man of the Match?

The questions are was he consistent? Is he the favoured man? What would Mata do if he played all of those games? Why wasn't he benched after he played below average these past games? Do you think that Oscar is better than Mata A.K.A. the back-to-back Chelsea player of the year? If you can answer these question with good arguments then I'm likely to understand what's going on at this very moment.

[The only place to be 11,313]

The questions are was he consistent? Is he the favoured man? What would Mata do if he played all of those games? Why wasn't he benched after he played below average these past games? Do you think that Oscar is better than Mata A.K.A. the back-to-back Chelsea player of the year? If you can answer these question with good arguments then I'm likely to understand what's going on at this very moment.

He was consistently our best and most important player at the start of the season.

Yes he's the favoured man.

Don't know.

Because he's still important to the team and the game against Newcastle really doesn't count because he was moved to the wing. The next game we won 3-0.

I think he offers different things to Mata, aka the POTY in two poor seasons (league form, not cups).

I thought it was nice of me to answer each question when you didn't bother to answer mine. 5 goals and at least 3 MOTM awards by my reckoning.

[bushman 2,043]

Who are these so called " supporters " to question anyone here as to what he/she ought to post here ?

Are we dealing with the prejudice of an Englishman ?

[The only place to be 11,313]

Who are these so called " supporters " to question anyone here as to what he/she ought to post here ?

Are we dealing with the prejudice of an Englishman ?

Nothing I say is based on race, creed or nationality. Nobody has reached a conclusion on you based on you being Canadian, for example.

[The Mak 4,459]

Ivanovic is playing because there isn't anyone else

People moaned about Cole being selected - he's been dropped. People moaned about Azpi not playing - he's been playing.

It's not all about Ivanovic playing or not, it's more about what he's given licence to do - attack, and he isn't good at it to say the very least.

Azpi has been playing but out of position. He's also been told to sit when he's much better going forward than Brana. They could easily swap positions.

[bushman 2,043]

Nothing I say is based on race, creed or nationality. Nobody has reached a conclusion on you based on you being Canadian, for example.

You are the most bias poster here. Constantly, questioning others, accusing them of not being " the true supporters" because they do not attend Chelsea games. We all seen it here. There is no need to deny it. We all know, you gonna tell lies, now.

[The only place to be 11,313]

You are the most bias poster here. Constantly, questioning others, accusing them of not being " the true supporters" because they do not attend Chelsea games. We all seen it here. There is no need to deny it. We all know, you gonna tell lies, now.

Considering there are people on here who call our supporters plastic, who insult the manager, who insult the players 20 minutes into the second half and who re-write recent history after a couple of losses I'm not too sure if you're being serious.

I question people's support when they don't support the club in any meaningful way. I'll admit it.

[The Mak 4,459]

I question people's support when they don't support the club in any meaningful way. I'll admit it.

And you denote this 'meaning' from...your own personal beliefs? Is that really a measure to discriminate others against?

[Phil Driver 503]

Every manager born makes mistakes Jose just makes less ,still very early days , progress in Europe secured and well positioned in the league ,he needs to be the power at the club because our managers recently were always looking over their shoulders,this needs to be at least a four year plan and in four years time Chelsea will be a dominant power ,a lot of new supporters who have just jumped on a bandwagon have no patience. In a period of change and transition we are doing just fine and Mourinho is the long term manager for Chelsea .

It is very easy to manage a team and make the right decisions after a game and even then they will not have been seen to have been proven right or wrong .

[edetarod 2,155]

i just have one word to describe Jose's second stint so far: DISAPPOINTING

our football is so awful even i have difficulty sitting through an entire match, can't imagine any neutrals watching our games

we've actually regressed under Mou, our football was slightly more bearable to watch under the waiter

i wanted to say atleast we've improved defensively, but after conceding 4 goals against Newcastle and WBA, can't really say that either

[Sheva. 5,373]

who insult the players 20 minutes into the second half

You keep saying this, but isn't 65 minutes enough to know who's doing well and who should be replaced?