The Mourinho Thread

[Tomo 21,751]

False. The myth that Mourinho chooses players on merit has been well and truly debunked.

He has seemed to "bottle it" a bit with Ivan, but let's not rewrite his career history, before now Mourinho has never been afraid to axe previous favroites if his which makes this Ivan selection more surprising.

At Madrid he kissed Pepe on the forehead when getting replaced, only for a few weeks later to ditch him for Varane, he came back here and Cole, Lampard and Essien, 3 of his previous favroites from the first spell, gone, and not to mention Carvalho, a rock for his Porto and Chelsea team's, basically told to fuck off or face isolation at Madrid in summer 2012.

[Tomo 21,751]

So people don't like Jose for his style of play and for not playing youngsters and yet people would like to see Carlo back. It doesn't make any sence.

Not to mention Ivan and Cesc would be even more untouchable under Carlo than they are now, it seems to be forgotten he played Malouda, Lampard, Anelka unconditionally despite them being absolute rubbish all season.

[manpe 10,861]

He has seemed to "bottle it" a bit with Ivan, but let's not rewrite his career history, before now Mourinho has never been afraid to axe previous favroites if his which makes this Ivan selection more surprising.

At Madrid he kissed Pepe on the forehead when getting replaced, only for a few weeks later to ditch him for Varane, he came back here and Cole, Lampard and Essien, 3 of his previous favroites from the first spell, gone, and not to mention Carvalho, a rock for his Porto and Chelsea team's, basically told to fuck off or face isolation at Madrid in summer 2012.

Perhaps, but I'm not trying to ignore or rewrite history. I know how he used to be, I was talking about how he is now.

[lionsden 4,689]

So people don't like Jose for his style of play and for not playing youngsters and yet people would like to see Carlo back. It doesn't make any sence.

I don't know where this myth that carlo is anti youth came from. He was very pro youth at Chelsea and madrid, giving respectable opportunities to players like Josh, Sturridge,kakuta,Jese,Morata. And what do you mean by the highlighted? I hope you are not trying to imply Carlo plays the same style or poorer football than mourinho because that will be a shocking opinion and no neutral fan who have any knowledge about football will ever agree with that as carlo's teams are more attacking and better coached offensively than Mourinho's teams (well the current version of mourinho anyway).

[lionsden 4,689]

While carlo wouldn't be my first choice, I will take him back gladly. He will restore our status as a football club from the circus/soap opera of a team/club that Mourinho and Costa have turned us into. at the very least. And I have no doubt he will do a much better job in terms of tactics and team selection than Jose currently.

[Rmpr 8,977]

I personally wouldn't want him back but I don't think he'd turn down the opportunity if offered.

Herein lies the problem for all the "José out" people. There aren't many adequate (available) replacements. Unless you want Brendan

There is almost no other option besides Jose. Pep is going to ManCity, Klopp went to Liverpool, Carlo would hardly want to return, Simeone has the exact same issues Mourinho has, Conte doesnt show any interest in moving to England, etc.

[Spike 12,049]

While carlo wouldn't be my first choice, I will take him back gladly. He will restore our status as a football club from the circus/soap opera of a team/club that Mourinho and Costa have turned us into. at the very least. And I have no doubt he will do a much better job in terms of tactics and team selection than Jose currently.

You know very well that the club has been a circus/soap opera for the past decade. The list of incidents are long and storied.

[Adnane 1,101]

actually if u had been paying attention. then u would have known that i have been moaning since the WBA win, infact before the match started and the team sheets came out and both iva and cesc were on it.

this "player confidence" and "talks" seems so idiotic and looks so obvious that its almost funny. whats also funny is the fact that except for willian, none of these players should even be opening their mouths. they should be working on the training ground for that extra 10-15 minutes rather than giving useless interviews.

FOR FUCK SAKE THEY ARE WITH THEIR NATIONAL TEAMS AND THE MEDIA FROM THEIR COUNTRIES ARE ASKING THEM ABOUT THE SITUATION WHAT THE FUCK DO YOU WANT THEM TO SAY

[Pizy 18,858]

There is almost no other option besides Jose. Pep is going to ManCity, Klopp went to Liverpool, Carlo would hardly want to return, Simeone has the exact same issues Mourinho has, Conte doesnt show any interest in moving to England, etc.

My God, I hope you (and the media reporting it) are wrong about Pep going to City.

Would be a nightmare.

[didierforever 7,349]

FOR FUCK SAKE THEY ARE WITH THEIR NATIONAL TEAMS AND THE MEDIA FROM THEIR COUNTRIES ARE ASKING THEM ABOUT THE SITUATION WHAT THE FUCK DO YOU WANT THEM TO SAY

EXACTLY. WHY THE FUCK IS EVERYONE SAYING THINGS LIKE "SO JOSE HAS THE BACKING OF SO AND SO AND SO, YET PEOPLE ON HERE THINK...." GET IT?

did the big and bold font help to make my point better?

[Spike 12,049]

@Adnane,@didierforever,

Stop that.

[Adnane 1,101]

Sorry for that, I clearly over reacted.

But to explain my opinion further, the issues we have since the starr of the season are pretty clear and I thing that we all did point that enough directly after the game against Soton, including slamming the manager, the players, the board and so on.

Why I don't understand is people on here saying they are fed up with what the players are saying without response, how can you expect to see if there is actually a response without any game and a two weeks International teams break.

The people who say that the playrers/board are supporting Mourinho yet we are all here slamming him do have a point, it is relevant at this exact point in time, since we needed to have the opinions of the board and the players directly after the Soton debacle, and we needed answers for the question the journalists were asking him: " Did you lose the confidence of your players ".

So I am absolutely glad to hear them all supporting him and standing by him, but most importantly by players like Costa and Hazard aknowledging that they are responsible just as much for this awful start, I like players standing up for their responsabilities and facing it, it seems like we have guys who are ready to do that, I do not know if they will respond good enough and start a streak of 4-5 wins that would get us back at least on the race for a top 4 spot, but I think we are all yet to see, I just see no point in saying that you are fed up with this talk from the players and want them to spend those 15 extra minutes in training working hard, they are with their national teams, they aren't training with us, and I am sure that Jose and those who stayed are doing a lot of additional work on the training ground.

This international break has arrived in the best possible moment, I actually expect us to get back on track directly after that, but we are yet to see.

Anyway, sorry again for the bold pat, I don't usually talk like that and I think people kow that.

[Fulham Broadway 17,306]

While carlo wouldn't be my first choice, I will take him back gladly. He will restore our status as a football club from the circus/soap opera of a team/club that Mourinho and Costa have turned us into. at the very least. And I have no doubt he will do a much better job in terms of tactics and team selection than Jose currently.

That "circus/soap opera of Mourinho and Costa" that won you the league last year, must have made you proud then though, being a Chelsea fan ?

[Tomo 21,751]

While carlo wouldn't be my first choice, I will take him back gladly. He will restore our status as a football club from the circus/soap opera of a team/club that Mourinho and Costa have turned us into. at the very least. And I have no doubt he will do a much better job in terms of tactics and team selection than Jose currently.

His tactics in his second season make Mourinho of now look like his 2005 self, and if you want Ivanovic and Cesc dropped then Carlo is the last manager we should get anywhere near here, if they are undrippable now, they will have their place under lock and key under Carlo.

[Tomo 21,751]

I don't know where this myth that carlo is anti youth came from. He was very pro youth at Chelsea and madrid, giving respectable opportunities to players like Josh, Sturridge,kakuta,Jese,Morata. And what do you mean by the highlighted? I hope you are not trying to imply Carlo plays the same style or poorer football than mourinho because that will be a shocking opinion and no neutral fan who have any knowledge about football will ever agree with that as carlo's teams are more attacking and better coached offensively than Mourinho's teams (well the current version of mourinho anyway).

Sturridge and Kakuta? Both started one league game each and made minimul appearances off the bench outside the domestic cups, if Carlo gets praised for those two, then Jose deserves credit for.RLC, Zouma, Varane (who funnily enough was brought in the team.by Jose and back out again under Carlo) and Kennedy.

Also Sturridge was clearly ready in 10/11, yet Carlo persisted with Malouda and Anelka in the worst form of their careers, if Mou did anything like that there will be lost after post slating him.

I didn't really follow his youth integration at Madrid (Varane having his game time reduced was world wide knowledge) but here, he was hardly youth friendly.