Jase 43,479 Posted November 2, 2015 Share Posted November 2, 2015 He's now going to be subject to an individual legal claim from Eva Carneiro.She's also going to sue the club by the way.Eva Carneiro to sue Jose Mourinho as well as Chelsea Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,864 Posted November 2, 2015 Share Posted November 2, 2015 No, it's not the wrong point. You can't preach about selecting players on merit (which Mourinho has done a lot since returning) and then do the opposite by continuing to select certain players even when they are performing poorly. Considering Ivanovic has done fuck all this season, Baba Rahman can't possibly do any worse than him. Yes, the latter has been shaky but he hasn't cost us any goals as far as I can remember and on top of that, how do you expect Baba Rahman to improve if he doesn't get opportunities to impress and adapt to the physicality of English football? Regarding Fabregas, I do agree with you but till a certain extent. Our options aren't exactly great but you can always look for alternatives, tweak things a little bit in the team, try something different.100% agree.As for the bolded part, it isn't JM repertoire. couris 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,864 Posted November 2, 2015 Share Posted November 2, 2015 Could get messy if it all comes out that Ivanovich/Hazard or some other player has been hanging out the back of herThe whole club better prepare itself for an absolute dragging through the hedge in court. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FabHazard 655 Posted November 2, 2015 Share Posted November 2, 2015 sacking jose would not instantly change our situation..IMO anyone other than Guardiola is a step down from mourinho..even if the new manager is appointed if he loses some matches people will be calling his head..i am sure everyone here have been through that..the board needs to decide the philosophy first...attacking football or defensive football,youth integration etc...Then should appoint the manager based on that philosophy... ZOS 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 19,374 Posted November 2, 2015 Share Posted November 2, 2015 José did say a while back that "when the time is right" he'd reveal the truth about what's been going on.Guess we'll find out soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhino's Skin 972 Posted November 2, 2015 Share Posted November 2, 2015 https://twitter.com/chelstransfer/status/661135901460926464This is an example of the BS the media is posting about the club.If Jose is the problem for everything why would Costa and Hazard want to leave after he's gone?perhaps in the clubs eyes....Mourinho isnt the problem for everything Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adnane 1,101 Posted November 2, 2015 Share Posted November 2, 2015 For there is another way of looking at this debacle — although it won't have occurred to those secretly revelling in Mourinho's downfall. It's not him, it's them. It isn't Mourinho who is the obvious underperformer, but his team. Who has the true c.v. of substance here? Nemanja Matic, for instance, with his one fine season in English football, or Mourinho's eight national titles and three European trophies across four countries?Sat in the Stamford Bridge stand, his Major League Soccer season at an end, was Frank Lampard. Now there was a player. He didn't just have one great year, or a good half-season, like Cesc Fabregas. Time after time, campaign after campaign, Lampard delivered for Chelsea. He must have viewed this shadow of a team with quiet despair.Absolutely spot on ! :clap: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhino's Skin 972 Posted November 2, 2015 Share Posted November 2, 2015 Mou will be sacked next Monday. His behaviour and tactics have been dreadful.Some players should leave as well. Big clean up is needed. That team is polluted by too many medium-quality players. polluted by some questionable ethics and attitude as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supporter 3,088 Posted November 2, 2015 Share Posted November 2, 2015 This isn't about love or understanding the club, this is a results based business were in right now, we are in the shit. It's not about being a villain of the movie, and whilst it's quite clear the players have their fingers in their arses the buck stops with manager. As a team we have been found out, and I think with it comes that Jose's ideas/methods are outdated. I want to brush away a lot of things that are said in the press because they are all wankers, but in amongst all the hullabaloo and what is happening I'm quite inclined to agree that the players have just given up under Jose.Something has to give now, and it won't be the players sacked, but we know who and why, that's the harsh reality of football.Hi friend!Yeah, I understand and, more or less, I agree with what you say. But we are trying to create a team for the next decade and IMO Jose is best for that. And to create a team for the next decade the most important thing is to keep the same manager and get an idea of club.If we change now to place a manager like Capello, Mancini or Guus Hiddink that would be a mistake. If we want to make a big change maybe summer is the best time. But not now because the "bridges coaches" never works.If we make good signings in January maybe we can turn this situation.Although this situation is completely paranoid and frustrating ... I would understand any decision from the club.Regards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucio 5,418 Posted November 2, 2015 Share Posted November 2, 2015 Hi friend!Yeah, I understand and, more or less, I agree with what you say. But we are trying to create a team for the next decade and IMO Jose is best for that. And to create a team for the next decade the most important thing is to keep the same manager and get an idea of club.If we change now to place a manager like Capello, Mancini or Guus Hiddink that would be a mistake. If we want to make a big change maybe summer is the best time. But not now because the "bridges coaches" never works.If we make good signings in January maybe we can turn this situation.Although this situation is completely paranoid and frustrating ... I would understand any decision from the club.Regards.Imo he is the worst for that. With him £100 ms worth of young players will go down the drain. We talk about ake , solanke ect. But he simply won't play them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Essien19 1,415 Posted November 2, 2015 Share Posted November 2, 2015 If Mourinho gets the sack, can't believe it, but i can't stop it...I think Capello wouldn't be too bad, especially short term.The man is a proven winner and he won't take shit from any player, moreover he has a good relationship with John Terry.He won't play pretty, but most likely we will end the season with a good shot at a cup, maybe CL, you never know.The moaning around here will continue, because he isn't fancy enough and some people always know best, fun times ahead of us, no matter what's going to happen... stroey 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iggy Doonican 4,187 Posted November 2, 2015 Share Posted November 2, 2015 Mourinho's Scorched Earth approach it would again appear to be his downfall. In every country he manages in he burns all his bridges. Anyone who thinks Man United would take him now are frankly deluded. Is there anyone else he can piss off or get into a petty squabble with?. Will there be a clamour for Mourinho if he leaves us can't see it myself. He brings nothing but chaos and anarchy where ever he goes and lets not forget where we are in the league.If he's not careful Mourinho will only start to be offered jobs in countries like Greece and Turkey where his type of one-upmanship will go down well. Portugal always would welcome him back club or country. petre.ispirescu, couris and Muzchap 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eidur the Spider 4,515 Posted November 2, 2015 Share Posted November 2, 2015 I'd take Koeman in the summer. Just throwing that out there seeing as we're discussing replacements now. Bosnian Blue 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DYC. 7,542 Posted November 2, 2015 Share Posted November 2, 2015 It's only a pipe dream because clubs and fans are impatient and any dip in performance is treated with the nuclear option. The Ferguson level of success might be fanciful for most, but it shouldn't be for big clubs with resources.Clubs and fans a like can't demand longevity then throw in the towl when things get a bit roughIt's even more ludicrous if we go down the route of Ancelotti because we will have sacked our historically successful and supposed long term coach for a second time only to bring back another for a second stint. If you're going to have to re-enlist past coaches over and over then you might as well just stick with one of them.It's a pipe dream because it's a rarity. You can't just want or wish someone to be capable of doing what Ferguson did.Bayern, Real, Barcelona, Juventus, Milan etc. all have booked succes for decades with a number of managers coming and going. Peace. and couris 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue-in-me-Veins 4,067 Posted November 2, 2015 Share Posted November 2, 2015 Marvelous. More drama.HOLLYWOOD FC! Gotta Love IT! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted November 2, 2015 Share Posted November 2, 2015 We sack him, Guardiola extend his contract with Bayern, Pellegrino leave City and they appoint Mourinho and we are fucked.Big deal. After 2-3 seasons, he will be getting his P45 from City.Mourinho seriously looks like a man in need of a sabbatical. nowhereman, The Mak and couris 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted November 2, 2015 Share Posted November 2, 2015 HOLLYWOOD FC!Gotta Love IT!Good to see we have eclipsed Bayern Munich on that front. couris and Blue-in-me-Veins 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhino's Skin 972 Posted November 2, 2015 Share Posted November 2, 2015 if he is to go....I hope the board offer only a 2 -3 year deal to a permenant replacement and only extend contracts in last year of a current one to a max of 2 years at a time.Also I wonder if there is a case against Mourinho for a reduced severance due to bringing the club into disrepute etc etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adnane 1,101 Posted November 2, 2015 Share Posted November 2, 2015 José Mourinho, the short term manager who built the highly successful 2004-2012 Chelsea He is staying, It doesn't make sense to see him leave, don't be fooled by the media. Essien19 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrExcalibur100 7,124 Posted November 2, 2015 Share Posted November 2, 2015 We sack him, Guardiola extend his contract with Bayern, Pellegrino leave City and they appoint Mourinho and we are fucked.Good scenario.Naive again. The top brass at City (Soriano, Begiristain etc) don't like or want Mourinho, the circus he creates or the football his teams' produce. The truth is after Mourinho's most recent meltdown, he's just not that much of an attractive option for Europe's elite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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