The Mourinho Thread

[Muzchap 8,966]

Thanks @Peace for an analytical view of the reasons for our current state ,, In addition to the Spurs game I would also mention the Bradford melt down ,,

That followed by the Spurs seemed to trigger a chain reaction .. imo there is no way he can turn this round .. This is not player power either , It is a manager losing the respect

of his players .

Yup, like me the players think he's a complete bellend!

I daresay the Eva situation was the final nail in his coffin.

He just needs to STFU - he's the biggest whiner I have seen. He should count himself lucky that so many people fell for his 'one of us' bollox - that's what has saved him thus far.

It's the emperors clothes scenario all over again ...

He is a short term manager capable of snagging a few trophies. His long term performance is questionable and his transfers are on average - mediocre. The first time round he signed some fuck awful players too.

I fully expect him to be gone in the summer. The financial hit is going to be serious - no decent prize money, no CL revenues - ouch!!!

[LukakutoStamford 779]

It's no wonder the Nazi's came into power with the absurd loyalty that people have towards Mourinho despite his atrocious behavior. There's mutiny because Jose is a manipulative narcissist. He can't ever admit that the other team won a match rather than Chelsea having bad luck or the referees stealing the match.

You talk about being fans of Chelsea FC then stop making it Mourinho FC and look at what's really happening.

You try to do your job when your supervisor is making things up about you, taking no responsibility for his actions, and is blaming everyone else for his shortcomings and see how you'd feel working for them.

It kills morale.

[Pacquiao 1,834]

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[Eidur the Spider 4,515]

Definitely, the problems at least started at the start of the year and that Tottenham game. After the said game, everything went wrong and we went on to grind victories. At the time, because we were lacking insight it was impossible to realize how huge the problem was ; and instead we took that for a bad moment and we hailed the grinded victories as the sign of the champion. Although once we were officially champions, everything started to go completely south. It started with the three last games of the season that were more than mixed results. One could have said that it was a well deserved rest but our pre-season was even worse. And as soon as we started the league season, the total implosion started with that infamous game against Swansea highlighted by Mourinho throwing Eva his toys out of the club pram.

What we are witnessing now his not the result of something that happened this summer. That is not because of a bad transfert window ; not because of a late pre-season ; not because some players decided the job was done and that one league title is enough. As I have mentionned above, our problems started at least since that Tottenham game. We held together because there was a title to be won, so we were able to go from one grinded victory to another grinded victory — and that was painful. And once the joint aim was achieved, all parts started to dislocate and we reached to current situation where nothing works anymore — as the only element allowing that broken machine to work is no longer here, that is a title at within reach.

I will even say that the problems started earlier than that Tottenham game. If we had a positive start of the season, it is most certainly due to the addition of Fabregas and Costa, which have brought positivity and breath of fresh air. But once the novelty became no longer new, and that these two players took the fold, we started to strongly decline : this is the moment we entered the second part of the season...

One could then hypothesizes that the problem is even older than the previous summer and take his roots within the first season. Therefore, the addition of Costa and Fabregas momentarily broke a decline that started that season ; and as I have said, as soon as the fresh air became a stale air, our form started to decline once again. Maybe that what happened with Ba, Mata, Eto'o, Luiz and KdB (and possibly Salah, Lukaku and Schurlle ?) is a huge factor in our current situation — a situation where there is clearly a clivage between the management team and the players. We could also think that the siege mentality and the negative football has taken the tool out of them...

That is only, of course, speculation. Yet the it is certain that the problem goes beyond purely sportive aspects. Rumours and quotes circulating are maybe inflated and more sensational than true ; nonetheless they are evoquing areal problem, that is a toxic atmosphere in the dressing room. And we seem to go the Madrid patern..

Fantastic post.

[zolayes 14,489]

Yup, like me the players think he's a complete bellend!

I daresay the Eva situation was the final nail in his coffin.

He just needs to STFU - he's the biggest whiner I have seen. He should count himself lucky that so many people fell for his 'one of us' bollox - that's what has saved him thus far.

It's the emperors clothes scenario all over again ...

He is a short term manager capable of snagging a few trophies. His long term performance is questionable and his transfers are on average - mediocre. The first time round he signed some fuck awful players too.

I fully expect him to be gone in the summer. The financial hit is going to be serious - no decent prize money, no CL revenues - ouch!!!

When he goes our young players may finally get a chance and our creative players allowed to express themselves

[blues.bridge 343]

if a coach loses dressing room, it is a fault of coach!
if mou loses dressing room, it is a fault of the dressing room!
i don't know explaining it to me

[Polo7 3,496]

He has to go. I know I keep repeating myself but the team is getting worse week by week, Cant believe the board is still backing him.

[quickpassnmove 924]

He has to go. I know I keep repeating myself but the team is getting worse week by week, Cant believe the board is still backing him.

as long as the scouting network is intact for the future, I'm thinking a lot of people should be considered for the axe. It's beyond comprehension that Jose got that contract in August from CFC. premature toxic ejaculation onto oneself. good job.

[zolayes 14,489]

He has to go. I know I keep repeating myself but the team is getting worse week by week, Cant believe the board is still backing him.

perhaps November 5th ... a quite special night a bonfire of the Vanities

[Rhino's Skin 972]

If the 'getting stronger by the day' rumours of Hazard and his mates being the ones who would rather lose than win for the manager....... the sell them as soon as possible and use the funds to bring in your Pogba's, Griezmans or whoever is flavour of the month.

I like Mourinho ( but he annoys me sometimes especially this season) and he is not my favourite Chelsea manager, but all I have wanted for many years and I go back way before Abramovich is continuity.

A manager who we stick with win, lose or draw who is given time to develop the squad he inherits and bring youth through over several years ( which actually takes a bit of time ) plus not be under pressure to win either the PL or CL every year, and develops a good understanding with the board over potential transfers ( in and out)

With that, once that manager decides after a 5 -10 year legacy to retire/move to another club/ become international manager I would like one of the staff be promoted within having been groomed for the job.

It still works nowadays with some big clubs and in the past it was successful even in this country.

Mourinho and his current staff are the ones that are in place and in my eyes, if they were to be replaced we would be taking big steps backwards.

Would it bother me if we didnt win a thing and finished mid table.....certainly not.

Would it bother me if we spunked a load of money on a new manager and staff plus a shedload of new players to suit new manager.... yes, but its not my money.

Could we survive a year or more without CL football.....most probably, with the TV money, the huge recently signed sponsorship deals plus Abramovich and a bit of creative accounting...we are comfortable.

So, if there are players not wanting to win for Mourinho....then I dont care who they are, what their status is or how many......get rid as soon as possible.

If they stay and a new manager comes in....would they do the same if they get upset???

A player who would rather lose than win for ANY manager is letting the club and the fans down.

Some years I pay over 4k a season to watch this team home/away and around Europe and what hurts me more than any TV rant, sending off, penalty miss, etc etc etc is to hear about and/or see a player not trying or willing to lose rather than win. Its a massive let down and I dont care if relations between him and the manager aint great..............PLAY FOR US...the support...match going and worldwide tv.

At least when there was player power before, they still gave it all for the fans

Is Mourinho the right man??

The board should have thought about this 3 years ago whilst he was at Madrid and the sounded him out whilst Benitez was here

[quickpassnmove 924]

If that is true I don't think is Matic, He didn't played last match, I think is between Oscar or Hazard..Hazard seems to be generally disinterested and not trying and he has delivered nothing so far this season.

Best scenario for us is to let Mourinho identify the problems and solutions and support him in the rebuilding process starting in January. imo

re-building with a manager who never shows evolution and stinks it up so bad that one of the world's best wingers wants to leave or is forced out? Yeah, I think we should just throw out every footballer who doesn't want to play this inept one-dimensional style and remain "Chelsea the Anti-Football" side for another decade. Great for public relations, the global neutral fan and enough to make everyone vomit and leave football entirely for something more entertaining.

sounds great.

[zolayes 14,489]

But when the problem IS THE MANAGER ....

[zolayes 14,489]

the managers responsible for laying down the foundations for our success in the last 10 years were Hoddle , Gullit and RANIERI,,,

I would bring Ranieri back with Hoddle as Director of Football and Gullit and Zola in charge of the Academy

[Tomo 21,751]

If he does leave soon, I reckon he will come back again for one last horrah before retiring from club footy and going into management.

If he can't turn this around his ability as a long term coach would be exposed for all to see, but want instant success and Jose is you're man, that will guarantee him top level jobs for the rest of his career.

Also I'm pretty sure he wouldn't want his last action at Chelsea to be this shitstorm, your last action for a club can actually have a significant say in what legacy you leave behind (ask Drogba) and I'm sure Jose would want to come back and right this wrong before he retires.

[Tomo 21,751]

It's no wonder the Nazi's came into power with the absurd loyalty that people have towards Mourinho despite his atrocious behavior. There's mutiny because Jose is a manipulative narcissist. He can't ever admit that the other team won a match rather than Chelsea having bad luck or the referees stealing the match.

You talk about being fans of Chelsea FC then stop making it Mourinho FC and look at what's really happening.

You try to do your job when your supervisor is making things up about you, taking no responsibility for his actions, and is blaming everyone else for his shortcomings and see how you'd feel working for them.

It kills morale.

You didn't answer me the other day when I asked who your favroite person who has ever represented Chelsea Is? Preferably Someone who has made a significant impact at the club.

[xPetrCechx 13,573]

How many years left on his old contarct?

Why we gave him a new one?...

[Stats 7,147]

How many years left on his old contarct?

Why we gave him a new one?...

The board were complacent. Simple as that really.

[zolayes 14,489]

You didn't answer me the other day when I asked who your favroite person who has ever represented Chelsea Is? Preferably Someone who has made a significant impact at the club.

whats the relevance of that question .. but my youngest son's favourite was Ray Wilkins and my eldest's was Joe Cole ,, BEFORE he became Judas ..

My 2 favourites were Zola and Charlie Cooke ,, who were yours ,, of course I know your favourite manager isn't mine . I go back pre Roman

[zolayes 14,489]

The board were complacent. Simple as that really.

is complacent the PC term for fucking retarded??

[quickpassnmove 924]

the managers responsible for laying down the foundations for our success in the last 10 years were Hoddle , Gullit and RANIERI,,,

I would bring Ranieri back with Hoddle as Director of Football and Gullit and Zola in charge of the Academy

I appreciate the general notion here, but Gullit is NOT someone I want at my football club running anything. He is not adaptable; rather, he would like to bend and beat people into seeing and doing things in a more classic way (HIS WAY), which doesn't work with every person/footballer one manages. intelligent guy, but destructive egomaniac. Might be what is developing at ManUtd now.