The Mourinho Thread

[Barbara 15,149]

As far as I know,Pepe and Ramos had their differences with Mourinho,so it made very much sense to just give Varane a chance.Mou did not like neither Pepe nor Ramos and that´s why he gave Varane a chance.He did not even have other options.

Furthermore,Zidane was also a huge fan of him,which could also be an influence to Mou.You don´t mess up with one of the biggest legends in world football.

Varane is maybe the only player,who was made by Mou.Maybe,he will stay the only one for the next ten years.

If we can´t manage to play one youth player in a match against a championchip team,we are just wasting the money of the academy.Just close it.

Mou is not the kind of manager,who gives young people a chance.He did not even play RLC from the beginning against maribor,in the most useless game of the season.

Bayern started Gaudino and gave 2 other kids a chance,so why can´t Chelsea once in the Abramovich era just give a kid a chance.

First of all, Ramos has been dropped a couple of matches for Varane, but was quickly reintegrated to the team and Mourinho played him throughout the last season, despite their differences. The Varane episode happened way before he lost the dressing room and some speculated that it fueled the problems - along with dropping Iker.

Second, Pepe and Mourinho don't have a problem, they had a problem at some point, but he was also played, as I said, later who lost his position was Arbeloa.

Third, Mourinho will never be influenced by whoever. And Perez gave him full reign to do whatever he wanted.

So get your facts correct. Despite having issues with Ramos and Iker, Mourinho continued playing both, Iker on UCL and Ramos in all competitions.

The lack of respect for Mourinho in some posts here is abysmal. He's a PROFESSIONAL, not you or me. He doesn't behave like an amateur and couch-managers. He won't drop a player simply because he doesn't like him on a personal level. Seriously, some posts here the last few weeks - since the slightest crisis started - are shameful. If the team is unbeaten, leading the league by 8 points, some people don't post and others are completely elated and maybe too positive. We draw and lose a couple of matches and then the posts criticizing everything pile up. I think a lot of criticism is rightful - such us the lack of rotation, some decisions, the way the team regressed or how we came back to bad finishing. But some things, like saying Mourinho chose to play a 19yo because he didn't like the regulars, or turning Costa into an average striker, or saying Mourinho will close our academy, are ridiculous. Unbelievable, people, unbelievable.

[Chelsea Legend 11 4,062]

Hazard had two days off last week and was allowed to travel with his family when he was rested for Sporting and he'll have another two days off tomorrow and Thursday with the rest of the team since our next match is Monday. I think we can afford to play him tonight without risking exhaustion.

Always nice to see him score though!

[killer1257 3,282]

First of all, Ramos has been dropped a couple of matches for Varane, but was quickly reintegrated to the team and Mourinho played him throughout the last season, despite their differences. The Varane episode happened way before he lost the dressing room and some speculated that it fueled the problems - along with dropping Iker.

Second, Pepe and Mourinho don't have a problem, they had a problem at some point, but he was also played, as I said, later who lost his position was Arbeloa.

Third, Mourinho will never be influenced by whoever. And Perez gave him full reign to do whatever he wanted.

So get your facts correct. Despite having issues with Ramos and Iker, Mourinho continued playing both, Iker on UCL and Ramos in all competitions.

The lack of respect for Mourinho in some posts here is abysmal. He's a PROFESSIONAL, not you or me. He doesn't behave like an amateur and couch-managers. He won't drop a player simply because he doesn't like him on a personal level. Seriously, some posts here the last few weeks - since the slightest crisis started - are shameful. If the team is unbeaten, leading the league by 8 points, some people don't post and others are completely elated and maybe too positive. We draw and lose a couple of matches and then the posts criticizing everything pile up. I think a lot of criticism is rightful - such us the lack of rotation, some decisions, the way the team regressed or how we came back to bad finishing. But some things, like saying Mourinho chose to play a 19yo because he didn't like the regulars, or turning Costa into an average striker, or saying Mourinho will close our academy, are ridiculous. Unbelievable, people, unbelievable.

I just looked some startiing line ups up.When Varane played as a centre back ,his partner were Ramos or Pepe.Arbeloa or Essien played as right back,while Ramos just only played a few times as a RB.Most of the times,it was Marcelo/Coentrao,Varane,Ramos/Pepe,Essien/Arbeloa.Ramos did not play that much as a RB.Also,in the last 8 matches,Ramos was not even on the bench,which is weird because he was not injured,according to my informations.

I never said that anyone was benched for Varane.I just said that Varane was given a chance because Mou did not like Pepe or Ramos.He just rotated between Pepe and Ramos.In general,there was very much rotation in the back 4

I think everyone loves Mou,but his decisions sometimes are not that great.We will not win the PL,if Hazard has to play every match.Why did he buy Salah?A youth player was more suitable of the salah role.

[stroey 2,525]

http://www1.skysports.com/watch/video/sports/football/competitions/capital-one-cup/9609478/mourinho-praises-his-team

Post match Derby

[GodZola 630]

Whilst I concur with the majority that 'fringe and youth' should take precedence in this competition (I'd have Ake ahead of Mikel in any game!) I think that most are missing the bigger picture here.

First time round José wanted to win this competition to get the players in a winning mentality to lead them on to bigger thing's, whilst we have some players who are habitual winners, José wants to mould 'his 2014 squad' to get that winning mentality, and what better way to start than by winning a trophy before the big 2 get in to the closing stage's?

I believe this season unlike last is about starting to obtain some of the objectives that were agreed by Roman & José when they sat down for the long haul.

I hope next season we will see a change with some of the promising youth Jose has earmarked gaining experience to set the wheels in motion with the academy.

Lastly tiredness or fatigue are all in the mind, there's no better manager to get the most of players in terms of psychology........

[mikeholiday 209]

Not so sure about that, especially after all the investment in the youth setup, and our last CL game was meaningless.

Think Jose jugded it important that we win that game and convincingly. Sporting had everything to play for in that game. So maybe too much risk to the team's confidence if we lose it after the loss to Newcastle.

[TheOneChan95 225]

No, no you misunderstand. When Hansen said that about United, they proved him wrong and won it with kids. That's my point. We should trust them to play big games, like Wilson for United, Sterling at Liverpool, Barkley at Everton etc.

Ah my apologies then. But surely playing too many kids is a radical choice at this point of time? Should we drop all 3 strikers for Solanke? Sell salah and Oscar to introduce Boga and Baker? We are still top of the table and only have 1 loss all so far. Our current first team is loaded with talent and very well balanced. Most are fit and lots of them can play multiple positions. Currently we should only gradually introduce youth into our squad or risk something like what United faced at MK Dons.

[LDN Blue 7,903]

Ah my apologies then. But surely playing too many kids is a radical choice at this point of time? Should we drop all 3 strikers for Solanke? Sell salah and Oscar to introduce Boga and Baker? We are still top of the table and only have 1 loss all so far. Our current first team is loaded with talent and very well balanced. Most are fit and lots of them can play multiple positions. Currently we should only gradually introduce youth into our squad or risk something like what United faced at MK Dons.

Of course the radical approach isn't wise, no-one here is suggesting that should be adopted. The examples I chose were intentional, they were 1 youth-promoted player alongside the senior players. Solanke is too raw right now to lead the line.. But it's much easier to allow RLC & Boga exposure in our first team because they'll be surrounded by senior players. 8 minutes for a lad, in a dead rubber match, where we were always on top, is just embarrassing. Particularly when Mourinho's expressly mentioned these guys all season.

[TheOneChan95 225]

Of course the radical approach isn't wise, no-one here is suggesting that should be adopted. The examples I chose were intentional, they were 1 youth-promoted player alongside the senior players. Solanke is too raw right now to lead the line.. But it's much easier to allow RLC & Boga exposure in our first team because they'll be surrounded by senior players. 8 minutes for a lad, in a dead rubber match, where we were always on top, is just embarrassing. Particularly when Mourinho's expressly mentioned these guys all season.

I do agree that the way RLC was paraded around was cringey and more youth players should have gotten a chance for a dead rubber game. However I don't think Mou does things without a reason. IIRC we were finally playing 2 natural full backs and both wingers were not inverted in a 433. I actually didn't watch the match cause I was asleep (do excuse me it's 345am here and it's a dead rubber after all) but surely those changes have a major impact on the way we play? This sort of environment does allow for experimentation and Mou opts to use it as tactical practice for a potential option later on in a season. If it pays off I won't really complain.

[The Skipper 20,609]

No one is asking Mourinho to field an 11 of academy youngsters, where are people getting that from? IMO it isn't the end of the world if we field an experienced 11 and integrate two or three youth players i.e. Boga, RLC and Aké, and surround them with 8/9 senior players. Surely that isn't too much to ask? Surely we should be able to beat a team like Derby with a set up like that?

[iseah100 5,612]

No one is asking Mourinho to field an 11 of academy youngsters, where are people getting that from? IMO it isn't the end of the world if we field an experienced 11 and integrate two or three youth players i.e. Boga, RLC and Aké, and surround them with 8/9 senior players. Surely that isn't too much to ask? Surely we should be able to beat a team like Derby with a set up like that?

As if he hasn't done that? Do people want him to do that every CL game? And PL game?

[Strike 7,474]

van gaal has the similar pressure of getting United into the Top 4. Doesn't stop him from giving youngsters a chance. He has Rvp, Rooney and Falcao, yet gave Wilson a start against Liverpool, one of United's main rivals.

Like someone mentioned a few pages ago, youth integration HAS to start somewhere. Otherwise players just get lost in the shuffle because in a couple of years a new promising youngster comes up. See Chalobah was being talked of last year, RLC this year, someone new next year. Is anyone getting a look in? No. The only promising sign this season is how Zouma has been trusted and given playing time but then again he was a 10million transfer, so the club feels he's a readymade youngster