The Mourinho Thread

[11Drogba 2,000]

just unnecessary and pathetic.

So is calling fans who want Jose out as shit and bastard mate. I wish you could respond to those messages as well.

I did not mean the whole staff btw, but it seems you just have titles and can't say anything to the guy who gave you that title.

[didierforever 7,349]

no he said our 1st half performance was -1 and then praised our 2nd half performance.

which was the truth.

unlike what he said for that performance.get the difference?

[Jase 43,479]

So is calling fans who want Jose out as shit and bastard mate. I wish you could respond to those messages as well.

I did not mean the whole staff btw, but it seems you just have titles and can't say anything to the guy who gave you that title.

But that's not exactly the point here, is it? Besides, you calling others glory hunters isn't much different than what the other members said.

[11Drogba 2,000]

But that's not exactly the point here, is it? Besides, you calling others glory hunters isn't much different than what the other members said.

No it was exactly my point. You can't run wild and call people shit, bastard etc, and expect them to donate.

Also you just reply to me. If it was not different why did not you reply to your boss here who calls members bastards? Are you afraid of losing your admin title?

I did not get mothers involved by calling people as bastards btw.

[Pacquiao 1,834]

Because they are glory hunters protected by a glory hunter who runs this forum which could not collect even a pound from its members last month. Mourinho brought them glory, so no matter what he does they will follow, adore and protect him like any pathetic glory hunter would do.

who are these 'glory hunters' that you are referring to?

[Billy. 2,742]

Ive been thinking, Say this was Jose first time in charge of Chelsea and he is 3 season in and only won 2 cups and we are still in the situation we are in now, would you guys still want him in charge? Remember this is the first time he was in charge. Other top managers have been sacked for about the same.

And no i dont want him sacked but i wouldn't be upset if he left at the end of the season

[Iggy Doonican 4,186]

Seems 'convenient' of Terry to milk the situation by doing a solo warm-down after the game, knowing the fans will chant his name, the media will pick up on it and write more negative stuff about Mourinho and the club.

Yes of course Terry knows how to play to the crowd. But Mourinho doesn't need help with the media and negative articles he's completely playing in to their hands. Lets hope he doesn't mention Wenger this weekend concentrate on team matters.

[Special Juan 27,512]

Some noises this morning from certain rags is saying the squad are annoyed with Jose's scapegoating.

[Leif 6,006]

Ive been thinking, Say this was Jose first time in charge of Chelsea and he is 3 season in and only won 2 cups and we are still in the situation we are in now, would you guys still want him in charge? Remember this is the first time he was in charge. Other top managers have been sacked for about the same.

This is the only post that's made me 'think' in a while, it's a good one.

I was going to type out a thoughtful answer now but i feel like the gist should be obvious.

If this was his first tenure, or he was managing us with a clean slate and no glorious track record, this return wouldn't have been accepted, and he'd already be gone. Probably after winning the title last season. Winning doesn't mean you stay on here. (Di Matteo I'm thinking) (Ancelotti too)

[Iggy Doonican 4,186]

This is the only post that's made me 'think' in a while, it's a good one.

I was going to type out a thoughtful answer now but i feel like the gist should be obvious.

If this was his first tenure, or he was managing us with a clean slate and no glorious track record, this return wouldn't have been accepted, and he'd already be gone. Probably after winning the title last season. Winning doesn't mean you stay on here. (Di Matteo I'm thinking) (Ancelotti too)

Exactly. The point is Mourinho has got a lot of credit in the bank and a lot of fans have got a lot of affection for him absolutely fair enough. But his inability to change things when they obviously need changing is riling fans again absolutely fair enough.

[ZOS 580]

Its obvious that there is a problem in the dressing room. It may have even began in preseason. Have you guys noticed Oscar's reaction after scoring our first goal against Swansea(was it?) ? He turned around to the bench and gesticulated angrily. Jose wasn't even moved.... anyway, I believe the board should stand firm with Mou in case of any mutiny. Days of player-power should never comeback. It was a major Achilles heel of the club.

[Special Juan 27,512]

The more and more I think about the whole situation and the big picture leads me to thinking it's just a matter of time before he is given the chop.

[Clevemayer 764]

For me there is only one thing gett'n obvious, you can see similaritys between AVB and Mou as clear as daylight... Mou trys to throw out players just to show em they are not bigger then the team... The problem he has, the squadplayers he trusts in include Iva... he is bullshit... the other problem is... we don't have any depth... Before when he did this he did this in replacing duff with cole... throwing cole out for robben, kicking robbens ass with cole or duff... throwing out mak (literally spoken), played diarra as RB if ferreira or anybody was shit, threw out Drogs for Gudjohnson vis versa,

short message, he was able to tell players: fuck off, who are you? I've got 3 Players that can replace you and nobody cares... Right now (like AVB) his credo: "The team is bigger than you" doesn't work, because he has no depth at all. Thats one of his problems. The other Problem he has is his stubborness when it comes to his ethical codex that includes, if the team plays shit he will protect them and they will protect him to, it is US (him, staff, team, supporters) against all, what ever happens internal stays theree, you are not better then any other player, I'm the manager and I decide who plays...

Al this doesn't work. Mou is tactical absolutly one of the best managers, he is not afraid of testing and changing positions at all (he did it often wit Lass, Micky, Drogs, Joe Cole, Zouma). He likes if his team keeps to his gameplan that is as following:

- fast crips passing

- high tempo

- winning the ball in the final third and hit the other team with fast counter attacks if needed (if he other teams is on the high)

- no ball hugging

I like his way... I find tikitaka boaring... but he doesn't have lamps. duff, robben, drogs, mak, Essien and joe cole, carvalho to do this anymore....

[blues.bridge 343]

salah, cuadrado, de bruyne (maybe mata) and others:all have disappointed and were considered not good enough to Chelsea and mou , but now I wonder: is it mou to no longer being able to recognize the " talent " and know how to bring out the best from players ?

If it is true , probably players as hazard could be even better than they expected (such hazard may finally get truly among the best in the world 5-6 ) !

[didierforever 7,349]

Ivanovic has suffered a drastic form dip this year and is understood to be one of the six players Mourinho privately criticised for lacking attitude and desire after the 2-2 draw at Newcastle.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3255335/Chelsea-fans-unhappy-John-Terry-s-exile-beginning-turn-manager-Jose-Mourinho-favour-club-captain.html#ixzz3nGSiqvxa

Let's wait the answer from the players.

its been 10 matches. we are still going to "wait" for the players' answers? awesome!!

[Chelsea? 892]

Jose takes things too personal with his players.

that's why De bryune and Lukaku were never given a chance; and that's why Cesc and Ivan can't be dropped

[Jase 43,479]

No it was exactly my point. You can't run wild and call people shit, bastard etc, and expect them to donate.

But that has nothing to do with the donation. Last month wasn't even the first time that no one donated. We appreciate it when there is one but we don't think the members are rich and expect them to donate.

If it was not different why did not you reply to your boss here who calls members bastards? Are you afraid of losing your admin title?

Afraid of losing the admin title? Some of you fellas are really more self-entitled than the forum staff here. When you call other people things, you'll find excuses to say like it's nothing. When the mods/admins do it, all hell breaks loose and you'll suddenly turn into a moral police to condemn us.

[Tomo 21,736]

This is the only post that's made me 'think' in a while, it's a good one.

I was going to type out a thoughtful answer now but i feel like the gist should be obvious.

If this was his first tenure, or he was managing us with a clean slate and no glorious track record, this return wouldn't have been accepted, and he'd already be gone. Probably after winning the title last season. Winning doesn't mean you stay on here. (Di Matteo I'm thinking) (Ancelotti too)

He wouldn't have been sackedafter winning the title, Carlo got sacked a year after because his second season was hopeless and the Di Matteo case was a complete anononmly.