The Mourinho Thread

[RoyalBlues 4,050]

Just curious if you guys are not satisfied with Jose, whom do you prefer to be on his place at the moment?

[Special Juan 27,104]

He sets us up not to lose, now whilst that maybe all well and good in some cases we need to be far more attack minded in the bigger games. We have all the tools to do so in players like Hazard, Willian, Cudrado, Costa etc.

[Fernando 6,376]

To all people who talking shit about Mourinho: How Bayern played yesterday with the best attacking coach in the world? Did they create a lot? How many shots on target? Shakhtar must have been blown away by best team with the best coach...

That's just a once in a blue moon.

The people criticising mourinho is not for a one game thing is for a recurrent thing.

While they might have a point, I'm not too worried about it and happy with the draw and away goal.

[petre.ispirescu 4,928]

Opposition fans don't sing 'Boring, Boring Chelsea' for no reason.

Who are they??? I didn't hear Madrid, Barcelona and Bayern singing this to be fair. Others, such as United, Arsenal, Liverpool are irrelevant.

United have invested almost 200m and they're playing worse than Chelsea U18s.

And then comes the usual suspects, the moral winners of every competition, Arsenal and Liverpool, the deluded teams with clueless managers/tactics that play fancy football and never win a thing.

What about Liverpool last season?? What about their all out attack tactics?? The stick Mourinho would get for blowing that lead... man, this whole forum would go into complete meltdown.

What you want is a team to entertain you the way Liverpool did last season and defend the "Jose way". That's basically the perfect football team and I'm afraid it does not exist.

And no, it is not called a balanced team. You can't score over 100 goals and allow only 20 with a balanced team. Not even Celtic could do it in SPL, nevermind EPL.

You guys talk about opposition fans, but half of United's fanbase would donate their left bollock to have Jose at Old Trafford.

This thread is quieter than a desert after a Chelsea win, but a mess after every other result. Even after a draw with an away goal that puts you in the driving seat, all you do is moan, moan, moan and fucking moan.

[kellzfresh 7,226]

To all people who talking shit about Mourinho: How Bayern played yesterday with the best attacking coach in the world? Did they create a lot? How many shots on target? Shakhtar must have been blown away by best team with the best coach...

Mourinho used to be the best counter-attacking manager in the world, and I'm a huge fast paced counter style fan. He has completely abandoned his main style and it's starting to get me worried. The last time we pulled off a proper counter-attacking performance was last season against City. Its too few nowadays.

In big away games we attack as if the players just met each other for the first time and there is no sign of a practiced attacking move during the match. Its only the defensive shape I see but no plans in place when city or PSG lose the ball, we just pass to hazard and hopes he runs to the 18box successfully or we send a long hopeful ball to costa and prays he is Drogba.

What has happened to those swift counterattacks of the old Mourinho teams? He needs to implement it here against the big teams. Our weakness can't be as easy as PSG letting us have the ball then we don't know what to do or PSG stopping hazard from running past players by fouling him. It's too easy.

I know our players have weakness of keeping balls under pressure, but I need to watch our team and see some of our attacking pattern once in a while, its looking like too much guess work.

[lionsden 4,689]

Jose said the draw was a fair result. In what world?

[lionsden 4,689]

before the game : PSG will see a different Chelsea from last season.

after the game : 5 of my players didn't train.

And of course, some people still naively buy it. Why wait till your side has been categorically outclassed in every facet of football till you then go on and contradict yourself later? That was the most lopsided 1-1 I've seen in a very long time. More like 5-1. And also, how many times this season have we averaged 1 or 0 shots on target in a match? 4? 5? That's unheard of at Chelsea.

Atleast he didnt blame the fans this time.why can't he just hire an offensive coach to direct attacking drills in training like fergeuson use to do, that way he can focus on what he's actually good at and the team benefits greatly from the balance it brings.

[kellzfresh 7,226]

Atleast he didnt blame the fans this time.why can't he just hire an offensive coach to direct attacking drills in training like fergeuson use to do, that way he can focus on what he's actually good at and the team benefits greatly from the balance it brings.

This would make sense. He can focus on his defensive areas and managing the tactics during the game while the attacking patterns is done by the coach. Our counterattacks have been so bad this season and its not looking normal again.

[ZOS 580]

no wonder we were playing better when Ramirez wasn't available. Too bad Jose doesn't see that.

[Barbara 15,149]

no wonder we were playing better when Ramirez wasn't available. Too bad Jose doesn't see that.

now that Ramires is recovered there won't EVER be one single big match where he won't play.

When he's given more freedom in the attack and he's in good form, he's quite useful, but to play the role demands from him and ALL AMs in those matches? Yes, it's frustrating.

[Stats 6,982]

To all people who talking shit about Mourinho: How Bayern played yesterday with the best attacking coach in the world? Did they create a lot? How many shots on target? Shakhtar must have been blown away by best team with the best coach...

I don't understand why people keep comparing us with Bayern. Bayern done their usual thing with passing but Shakhtar were effective in restricting them to shots on target. Bayern didn't sit back and defend. They were passing and looking for a way through but could not. They had 8 shots compared to Shakhtar's one. They just could not get much on target. We on the other had only had 2 shots that game. Bayern had a man sent off with 25 minutes to go as well? Do you really expect them to go all gung-ho away from home after that. There is a complete difference. Anyway I am sure Bayern will demolish Shakhtar second leg anyway but it is nonsense to try and compare our performance to Bayern's. Shakhtar were good at restricting Bayern. Shakhtar did not create and only had 1 shot that game. Bayern did not sit back. Their game plan was just not effective. We on the other hand were outplayed and were poor going forward and in defense. Our goalkeeper saved us from a beating last night.

Complete difference. We could have done much better offensively yesterday night.

[Madmax 9,219]

I don't understand why people keep comparing us with Bayern. Bayern done their usual thing with passing but Shakhtar were effective in restricting them to shots on target. Bayern didn't sit back and defend. They were passing and looking for a way through but could not. They had 8 shots compared to Shakhtar's one. They just could not get much on target. We on the other had only had 2 shots that game. Bayern had a man sent off with 25 minutes to go as well? Do you really expect them to go all gung-ho away from home after that. There is a complete difference. Anyway I am sure Bayern will demolish Shakhtar second leg anyway but it is nonsense to try and compare our performance to Bayern's. Shakhtar were good at restricting Bayern. Shakhtar did not create and only had 1 shot that game. Bayern did not sit back. Their game plan was just not effective. We on the other hand were outplayed and were poor going forward and in defense. Our goalkeeper saved us from a beating last night.

Complete difference. We could have done much better offensively yesterday night.

Good to know I'm not the only one cursing at this thread since yesterday every time the post about Bayern's result comes up.

[supporter 3,088]

After winning the Europa League two years ago I think the club has created a certain atmosphere of tension and anxiety. Our project is to create a worldwide reference winning club for the next 20 years, and winning a minor trophy as the Europa League represented a step back compared to our history since Roman arrived.

Right now we have a horrible anxiety to win trophies as quickly as possible.

Anxiety is always bad in football. Before we competed with great ambition, but now compete with much anxiety. This has changed our mentality. For us awful would spend two years without winning trophies at the end of the season and I think the players and Jose share that anxiety.

Maybe this season we will not present a spectacular football for the anxiety. Maybe this season we have to make do with winning trophies using pragmatic approaches. Maybe this year, if we win Premier League, League Cup and, perhaps, Champions League, maybe we desatasquemos this feeling of stress and anxiety, and thus the next season we will play much more comfortable without any stress or anxiety.

We won with Di Matteo in 2012 Champions League by putting a huge bus in our box. But after the goal by Didier us were all jumping for joy. Now nobody remembers that we won Champions League, but across Europe already know that we are already champions Champions League and we have that pressure and that anxiety about getting a big trophy.

At the Champions was not important the way, was only important the end. Champions League race is a long way down the road and we were the only ones happy.

The story also plays in football. And it's not the same not have Champions League than if you've already won one or more Champions League. For example, Real Madrid win many games in Europe only by the fear that gives its history. But Real Madrid won six Champions League when television was in black and white.

That is why I advocate the approach of Jose. We have to win the Champions League in any way. Jose delete the big Guardiola's Barcelona with a bus in the second game in the semifinals. But let's not forget, Jose crushed to Barcelona in the first game of that semifinal. The Jose's Inter crush the Guardiola's Barcelona. So I am quite sure that when Jose need to win big games, Jose will show again that he is a specialist in big games.

We have drawn against City, United, Liverpool, PSG ... but in those games we we were not bound to win. Against Liverpool, home, us were forced to win and finally we won.

Jose approaches are perfect from a pragmatic point of view. Yesterday would have been imprudent take risks.

Obviously we can fall out of any competition, but that risk also have it the other teams.

But Jose knows how to handle pressure situations perfectly. Jose knows change radically its approach on the pitch with a couple of indications to his players.

For me there is no one better than Jose in the world. He is perfect for such situations. I believe that if, for many people, Guardiola (cheap philosopher) is the best coach in history, and Guardiola's Barcelona the best team ever since Jose Mourinho who was crushed to Guardiola's Barcelona. First I won the Champions League with Inter, after he defeated Real Madrid in La Liga, the Spanish Cup, Spanish Super Cup and totally demoralized Guardiola. Moreover, Jose showed the world how to win Guardiola.

So all quiet. Jose is very intelligent, and he will present different approaches according to our needs, and when we need to win, we will win. I'm sure. I fully trust in Jose.

I hope your comments.

Regards to ALL.

[lucio 5,404]

Who are they??? I didn't hear Madrid, Barcelona and Bayern singing this to be fair. Others, such as United, Arsenal, Liverpool are irrelevant.

United have invested almost 200m and they're playing worse than Chelsea U18s.

And then comes the usual suspects, the moral winners of every competition, Arsenal and Liverpool, the deluded teams with clueless managers/tactics that play fancy football and never win a thing.

What about Liverpool last season?? What about their all out attack tactics?? The stick Mourinho would get for blowing that lead... man, this whole forum would go into complete meltdown.

What you want is a team to entertain you the way Liverpool did last season and defend the "Jose way". That's basically the perfect football team and I'm afraid it does not exist.

And no, it is not called a balanced team. You can't score over 100 goals and allow only 20 with a balanced team. Not even Celtic could do it in SPL, nevermind EPL.

You guys talk about opposition fans, but half of United's fanbase would donate their left bollock to have Jose at Old Trafford.

This thread is quieter than a desert after a Chelsea win, but a mess after every other result. Even after a draw with an away goal that puts you in the driving seat, all you do is moan, moan, moan and fucking moan.

fine , but trying to sneak a set piece and then defend baldly when called upon , isn't really good enough. How about defending tightly but managing more than about 4 attacks?

[stroey 2,525]

Madridistas slating Mourinho as the ''semifinal one'' is such a disgrace, before Mourinho went to Real they were a complete joke in Europe.
They didn't qualify for the quarter finals for 7 years, eliminated by the likes of Lyon. After he came they reached it 3 years in a row.

- First year against a super Barca was difficult, I also remember the easy red cards given to Real.
- Bayern wasn't better at all, Real should have reached the final. Lost with penalties, but if Real was there, I am not sure we'd have won the CL , so better for us.
- Dortmund, it was his final year and at the time around April the atmosphere was already really bad, plus Pepe had his worst game in years.

With us in his first spell he had some bad luck too:

- 2005: Ghost goal of Garcia.
- 2007: Penalties again, lost against Liverpool.

So instead of slating him as the ''semifinal one'', people could also call him the specialist in the competition. He's been in the last 4 of this competition 8/10 seasons as a CL team manager, that's 80%. How many coaches have this percentage? He's won it twice too, papers like Dailymail should shut up about him and we as Chelsea fans should be proud to have this CL specialist.

[CHOULO19 24,332]

Why do I feel, after reading the past few pages, that I need to express my condolences to everybody?!

[Heisenberg 1,824]

I don't understand why people keep comparing us with Bayern. Bayern done their usual thing with passing but Shakhtar were effective in restricting them to shots on target. Bayern didn't sit back and defend. They were passing and looking for a way through but could not. They had 8 shots compared to Shakhtar's one. They just could not get much on target. We on the other had only had 2 shots that game. Bayern had a man sent off with 25 minutes to go as well? Do you really expect them to go all gung-ho away from home after that. There is a complete difference. Anyway I am sure Bayern will demolish Shakhtar second leg anyway but it is nonsense to try and compare our performance to Bayern's. Shakhtar were good at restricting Bayern. Shakhtar did not create and only had 1 shot that game. Bayern did not sit back. Their game plan was just not effective. We on the other hand were outplayed and were poor going forward and in defense. Our goalkeeper saved us from a beating last night.

Complete difference. We could have done much better offensively yesterday night.

I agree, and credit should be given to Guardiola for that, he edges José when it comes to that I guess, we were so poor yesterday, shockingly poor for a team that leads by 7 points the PL, we'll qualify though.

[ZOS 580]

I think people exaggerate the level of control a manager has over match proceedings... I don't think it was Jose's intention to defend against PSG ... in fact I don't believe he ever sets teams up just to defend. He just puts out a team he believes can cope with a range of situations that could possibly unfold during a match... and some times, like Yesternight, he makes the mistake of trusting the wrong player/s to handle these situations. And when these players screw up the whole plan goes down the toilet and we end up looking like shit.