The Mourinho Thread

[Heisenberg 1,824]

It's all the self-righteous 'proper football' crap. People just assume that every team in every single match will ideally look to keep possession as long as possible because Pep's Barcelona are the ultimate footballing model.

Pep's Barcelona are the ultimate footballing model because they won it all, we'd only dream of beating Madrid 5-0 for an example, so we all should take note of that era.

[CHOULO19 24,332]

Pep's Barcelona are the ultimate footballing model because they won it all, we'd only dream of beating Madrid 5-0 for an example, so we all should take note of that era.

Does not mean it should be immitated because that team did not just have a "philosophy" they also had a a team of outstanding players at their peak with very specific rare abilities. You might copy some of the style but you won't ever replicate the achievements.

Certainly it does not mean that possession based football is the best approach to every sinle match regardless of the cicumstances, which was what we originally meant.

[LondonsFinest 692]

And sack the lot of 'em too. All them shit players.

They're all fOckin rentboys , m8.

[pHaRaOn 2,131]

Mourinho out.

Bring back Rafa! At least he performed in Europe.

[Heisenberg 1,824]

Does not mean it should be immitated because that team did not just have a "philosophy" they also had a a team of outstanding players at their peak with very specific rare abilities. You might copy some of the style but you won't ever replicate the achievements.

Certainly it does not mean that possession based football is the best approach to every sinle match regardless of the cicumstances, which was what we originally meant.

I understood what was originally made, but I think everyone here would love us to play more with the ball, because we have the ability to do that.No team could replicate Barcelona's achievements or any other special teams, but possession based football will always remain more entretaining than the football we are playing these past 4 months.

[CHOULO19 24,332]

I understood what was originally made, but I think everyone here would love us to play more with the ball, because we have the ability to do that.No team could replicate Barcelona's achievements or any other special teams, but possession based football will always remain more entretaining than the football we are playing these past 4 months.

I know it's a cliche and an over simplification, but I think it was clear which set of fans was more "entertained" at the final whistle.

As fan, results and wins will always be more gratifying than good performances with no points. Ideally, you'd want both, but unless you have BY FAR the best team in the world like Barca did, it is impossible to have that in every match because you will need to be pragmatic and adjust tonthe opponent, especially in the big matches, and that would sometimes mean conceding possession to have a chance of getting the results.

[OhForAGreavsie 6,091]

@excalibur

I will give him five year to see if there would be change or not.

A reasonable approach.

[Leif 6,006]

The umm, 'funny'(?) posts mocking the 'negative' forum members, such as the "Mourinho out", "bring back Rafa" comments from the usual positivity brigade have worn thin. can we, or you, not do better?

around 2 moaners in sight but 10+ moaning about them

mockery is surely worse, more childish, and generally displays less intelligence than the so-called moaning or trolling.

[Leif 6,006]

just to add: 'moaning', however negative it may come across as, generally has thought behind it, and is always driven by an opinion at the end of the day that the user is trying to express, which is what forums are for (if not to stay informed, but i think this forum is more-so for the former.)

this weird mockery is the closest thing to trolling since people saying Fernando Torres still 'had it'. what on earth has any of it added to the topic?

I only say this, because the positivity brigade i refer to, eg; anyone blindly lambasting anybody to say something which contrasts the popular opinion, continue to go unchecked - because of course they're in the majority. but it doesn't take balls to be a sheep and bah like the rest.

at the end of the day, not allowing negativity to be expressed is inhumane. to make an effort to mock or bring down those who are negative, which is usually not a choice but just how a person is, is beyond childish.

maybe the moaning will quit when things are more fair.

Now that was overdue.

[Viper22 2,418]

The umm, 'funny'(?) posts mocking the 'negative' forum members, such as the "Mourinho out", "bring back Rafa" comments from the usual positivity brigade have worn thin. can we, or you, not do better?

around 2 moaners in sight but 10+ moaning about them

mockery is surely worse, more childish, and generally displays less intelligence than the so-called moaning or trolling.

Seriously dude, are your posts ever constructive? All I keep seeing is whining, self-righteous drivel.

Do you genuinely support this football club? If so, please show it in some way or another. Please.

[Leif 6,006]

Seriously dude, are your posts ever constructive? All I keep seeing is whining, self-righteous drivel.

Do you genuinely support this football club? If so, please show it in some way or another. Please.

You're touching on 2 different things, without adding anything to what I said, or what the topic is about, or what anyone in here is talking about. Don't fish for likes. Message me if you have a question.

[Leif 6,006]

Seriously dude, are your posts ever constructive? All I keep seeing is whining, self-righteous drivel.

People like me post our 'negative' posts, not aimed at persons on here, but towards or fueled by a manager whom does not know nor care about us. (Or in this unique case, addressing an intangible 'thing' going on) We, or I, don't quote people out of the blue after they post an opinion, negative or positive, then proceed to give personal opinions on what sort of person they are.

People like you try to bring down people like me, with personal quotes, when no qualms were needed. You can't dispute that. And I personally can't see how it doesn't make you a piece of shit.

[Reddish-Blue 2,513]

People like me post our 'negative' posts, not aimed at anyone in here, but a manager whom does not know nor care about us.

People like you then try to personally bring down people like me. You can't dispute that. And I personally can't see how it doesn't make you a piece of shit.

First of all, why are you still on this thread?

Secondly, how old are you? If you feel people are trying to personally bring you down on a FORUM, then maybe you need to grow up

[Leif 6,006]

Secondly, how old are you? If you feel people are trying to personally bring you down on a FORUM, then maybe you need to grow up

This isn't the case at all, but do you believe in cyber bullying? Or do you believe it's a myth? If you think you can't be brought down on a forum, well, that's your opinion so i'm not going to question your age for it am i?

[Viper22 2,418]

You're touching on 2 different things, without adding anything to what I said, or what the topic is about, or what anyone in here is talking about. Don't fish for likes. Message me if you have a question.

I'm addressing you because every thread in this forum I see your posts. And they all come across as incredibly self righteous and negative.

If I was fishing for likes I'd have called out TheBlueGuy by now for or posted some insulting comment towards Lionsden (they would both be pretty popular I wager) or even quoted my positive posts from before the match.

My question about whether you support the team at all is because following a match (arguably one of the most important of our season so far) against one of our biggest rivals no less, we won with a clean sheet and without being truly troubled at any time. I'm not going to insult your intelligence by suggesting that you don't understand how good of a tactical display that was considering that while Utd had so much possession it was almost all in their own half or curtailed into cul-de-sacs that they couldn't get through which resulted in (barring a few mistakes from Matic, Ivan and Zouma) Utd having no control of the game, no clear cut chances and maybe 1 or 2 half chances if that.

So on the back of all of that (coupled with one of our players having contributed to 15 goals in the last 17 games) and the fact that we have we have essentially won the Premier League and Cup double the only thing some people can do is come on here and moan. Why? Seriously, why? To me someone who supports a team would want them to win and would celebrate when they do, but I have the horrible feeling that The Skipper (or was it Special Juan?) is right, I can only imagine that there were some people going into the last few minutes in that game begging for Utd to score so they could have fuel for their agenda.

I'm not saying you (or anyone else) did that but with the way some people (you included) act sometimes I wouldn't be surprised. I find it incredibly worrying that people almost want to feel like there's something to moan about and I just want you to feel a bit happier about what is a fantastic result for the club and so by extension its fans.

[Leif 6,006]

My question about whether you support the team at all is because following a match (arguably one of the most important of our season so far) against one of our biggest rivals no less, we won with a clean sheet and without being truly troubled at any time. I'm not going to insult your intelligence by suggesting that you don't understand how good of a tactical display that was considering that while Utd had so much possession it was almost all in their own half or curtailed into cul-de-sacs that they couldn't get through which resulted in (barring a few mistakes from Matic, Ivan and Zouma) Utd having no control of the game, no clear cut chances and maybe 1 or 2 half chances if that. So on the back of all of that (coupled with one of our players having contributed to 15 goals in the last 17 games) and the fact that we have we have essentially won the Premier League and Cup double the only thing some people can do is come on here and moan. Why? Seriously, why? To me someone who supports a team would want them to win and would celebrate when they do, but I have the horrible feeling that The Skipper (or was it Special Juan?) is right, I can only imagine that there were some people going into the last few minutes in that game begging for Utd to score so they could have fuel for their agenda. I'm not saying you (or anyone else) did that but with the way some people (you included) act sometimes I wouldn't be surprised. I find it incredibly worrying that people almost want to feel like there's something to moan about and I just want you to feel a bit happier about what is a fantastic result for the club and so by extension its fans.

I WASN'T EVEN TALKING ABOUT THE GAME, WHY ARE YOU INSULTING ME OVER MY SUPPOSED LACK OF ENTHUSIASM OVER A WIN? WHY ARE YOU INSINUATING I DONT UNDERSTAND TACTICS? I WAS ELATED WITH OUR WIN WITH NOT TOO MANY QUALMS OVER THE TACTICS DEPLOYED LOL. YOU ARE LOST? WHY ARE YOU SAYING ALL THIS? IM NOT A TRUE SUPPORTER BECAUSE IM FED UP OF MOCKERY ON A FORUM????

If your reply isn't in a PM i'm reporting you for spam LOL. You're having a very random discussion that is nothing to do with what i'm talking about, and continuing this will only make people laugh and wish the conversation ended sooner.

[Viper22 2,418]

I WASN'T EVEN TALKING ABOUT THE GAME, WHY ARE YOU INSULTING ME OVER MY SUPPOSED LACK OF ENTHUSIASM OVER A WIN? I WAS ELATED WITH OUR WIN WITH NOT TOO MANY QUALMS OVER THE TACTICS DEPLOYED LOL. YOU ARE LOST? WHY ARE YOU SAYING ALL THIS?

"So on the back of all of that (coupled with one of our players having contributed to 15 goals in the last 17 games) and the fact that we have we have essentially won the Premier League and Cup double the only thing some people can do is come on here and moan. Why? Seriously, why? To me someone who supports a team would want them to win and would celebrate when they do, but I have the horrible feeling that The Skipper (or was it Special Juan?) is right, I can only imagine that there were some people going into the last few minutes in that game begging for Utd to score so they could have fuel for their agenda.".

My point was that you could have talked about any of the things I mentioned previously, but you chose to come on and have a dig at the people teasing the 'negativity brigade' with posts like "Rafa In" or "Mou Out". You chose to moan about something rather than mention that you appreciated the tactics or are happy with the win. That was my issue.

[Reddish-Blue 2,513]

Hope Mourinho doesn't leave Chelsea anytime soon

[Leif 6,006]

but you chose to come on and have a dig at the people teasing the 'negativity brigade' with posts like "Rafa In" or "Mou Out". You chose to moan about something rather than mention that you appreciated the tactics or are happy with the win. That was my issue.

I'm not having a dig. I'm highlighting an actual concern about the forum. I'll edit my post into the Feedback thread.

[Barbara 15,149]

Today "park the bus" was acceptable but against QPR or Hull . NO......... Brana managed to make Young and Shaw look like Best and Roberto Carlos

but people should be able to tell parking the pass and allowing possession as two different things.

We gave them the ball, but we limited their actions with it. We had average of 30% of possession, but I read Seb saying in his twitter account that most of our possession was in their half... the same place where the outstanding majority of their possession was: in their own field. So while we had the ball we were mostly in the attack while they were passing backwards and to the sides because we limited them. No bus was parked, it was a tactical plan that worked very well even if we didn't look amazing.

Also I think Ivanovic had a very good match defensively... I don't know how he made those players look above their level.

The title is the only thing that matters now, if people are patient enough, better football will come with time because it needs to be nurtured, you just don't set up a team from night to day, especially if you have long term domination as a goal.