Chelsea? 892 Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 He played a football they didn't want but they stuck with him - for how long? 2 months? thanks. If you don't want pragmatic football, then don't hire Jose but if you've hired him then back him.Falcao, Pedro, Stones? No he wanted a midfielder and a defender, the reported names were Marquinhos/Stones and Pogba, Pat Nevin said 6 players so probably there are also names that were under the radar.they stuck with him for 2.5 years. Every manager has a plan to buy 100 players yearly, it's the board's decision if they can do it or not. But he certainly should've done better than he did. Jose fanboys, similar to Torres fanboys will always blame everyone else. But you have to realize the board pretty much scrapped our initial plan of going young (Mata, Eden, KDB, Lukaku, and the academy) and just complied with Jose's way for 3 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelsea Legend 11 4,062 Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 I was one of his biggest defenders here. But I took time to think about it in the last few days, and i think that loving him grew harder and harder by the day...He, the players and the board let the fans down, he paid the price. They might have performed less than they should have, I still don't believe a professionnal football player is ready to be relegated just because he doesn't get along with the manager anymore. But could the players have been as down mentally as they were this season if the atmosphere wasn't as toxic ? I don't think so..I'm really in a terrible place now between loving the guy I defended for years and admitting the truth, which i am, gradually.So I hope he goes to United and makes it easier for all of us, bring it on. I'm a firm believer that Jose was let go not because of results but more so because he's fallen out with Chelsea's brightest star, Eden Hazard. Long gone are the days where a manager can walk into any dressing room and be the big personality that who everyone panders to and tries to please. Right now its all about image/naming rights and who can make viewers watch us play. Jose fell out with players before and the club backed him, as soon as it was Hazard who was unsettled they had no choice than to fire the coach. I really hope for his sake Hazard has a cracking second half of the season because if he continues on his current form he will receive the full brunt of Jose 'wrongful' dismissal. Ossie the King 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gappy 130 Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 After this season pass, I'm so sure that this season will be a very good case to everyone in the football business and also every football fans, Both in good and bad ways. " You hear only what you want to hear " someone in this thread was post this speech and still my all time favorite one. Now in this mess I just hope - Players prove them self that they are worth to wear blue shirt. - Board learn from every detail of their action and start to build more royalty staffs and squads scargo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDN Blue 7,903 Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 So I hope he goes to United and makes it easier for all of us, bring it on. I disagree about the effect he'll have at United, but I guess I can only say I hope you're right. The quality of Mourinho, to me, is undisputed. If he's allowed control at United, he'll take them far, imo.Again, hope I'm wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! Tomo 21,754 Posted December 21, 2015 Popular Post! Share Posted December 21, 2015 Apparently Mourinho and Hiddink had breakfast together on Sunday morning.I would have loved to have been a fly on the table while that was happening Reddish-Blue, ZOS, xPetrCechx and 4 others 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZOS 580 Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 Do you guys think he will be treated differently by the media if he takes the utd job? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xPetrCechx 13,598 Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 Do you guys think he will be treated differently by the media if he takes the utd job?Maybe...They are all utd lovers... ZOS 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gappy 130 Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 Imagine Jose with lord Ed support in Market and have Sir Alex back him up against FA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rom2013 446 Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 Net spending doesn't tell the whole story though.Pedro 27 millionRahman 20 millionBegovic 11 millionCosta 38 millionFabregas 33 millionCuadrado 31 millionLuis 20 millionRemy 13,2 millionWillian 35.5 millionMatic 25 millionSchurrle 22 millionSalah 16.5 millionZouma 14.6 millionThat's 13 players and a combined investment of 306.8 million euros over 5 transferwindows.Our net spend is so low because we had a number of talented, high value players at the club that didn't fit Mourinho's system.(Mata, De Bruyne, Luiz, Lukaku)So we sold them to buy players that did fit his system.Not true. First, CHelsea has a structural deficit... CHelsea had to sell players... at least 1 great player every season to comply with the FFP. That's a fact... It could have been KdB, Lukaku, David Luiz... or Hazard... but at least one great player every season.The right value to analise it's the net value. If you have David Luiz and you sell him to buy Jones you have 1 good CB. If you buy Jones and keep Luiz you have 2 good CB. I think you don't need to be a rocket scientist to understand that the important value is the net value. For example PSG has 3 WC center backs... CHelsea can't do it. Teams with a lot of money like Man City, United, Real, Barca, PSG can have 2 or 3 great players in each position, and Chelsea can't . We will see what can do Chelsea in the next seasons agains Manchester City with Guardiola, Man United with Mourinho, etc. Ossie the King and stroey 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Essien19 1,415 Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 The players need sacking! Chelsea captain John Terry gives damning verdict following Jose Mourinho's Stamford Bridge departurehttp://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3368106/The-players-need-sacking-Chelsea-captain-John-Terry-gives-damning-verdict-following-Jose-Mourinho-s-Stamford-Bridge-departure.html didierforever, Ossie the King and stroey 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamad138 190 Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 Boss come back[emoji24][emoji24][emoji24][emoji24] hazard out stroey and Essien19 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henrique 9,133 Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3368106/The-players-need-sacking-Chelsea-captain-John-Terry-gives-damning-verdict-following-Jose-Mourinho-s-Stamford-Bridge-departure.htmlThe headline doesn't reflect what Terry actually said. He basically said in football when things go wrong a club just don't sack all players, its easier and the rational thing to do to fire the manager when everything goes wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henrique 9,133 Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 I disagree about the effect he'll have at United, but I guess I can only say I hope you're right. The quality of Mourinho, to me, is undisputed. If he's allowed control at United, he'll take them far, imo.Again, hope I'm wrong.It depends whats your concept of "far". Mourinho will never emulate SAF success and thats for sure, perhaps he will do better than LVG, but if Guardiola really comes to City next season I don't see United winning anything relevant in the next 3 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevinAshburner 1,270 Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 Put money on Jose Mourinho to be Arsenal or Manchester United Manager. Jose will be manager of MUFC before we play them next or join Arsenal at the end of this season. Jose would probably want to stay in London. Because London is better than Manchester. plus I hate the arsewipes that love or worship a manager more than a club. Do not love or worship something or somebody because that breaks the first commandment of the ten commandments. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adnane 1,101 Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 I disagree about the effect he'll have at United, but I guess I can only say I hope you're right. The quality of Mourinho, to me, is undisputed. If he's allowed control at United, he'll take them far, imo.Again, hope I'm wrong.I was speaking about the dilemma we are still facing as Chelsea fans atm. Not a single doubt he'll do just fine there, but if he does coach United, the love story is over and we're all against him now aren't we ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El P. 1,354 Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 this perfectly describes the relationship between chelsea and jose i find... at least we'll always have the great memories, the fact that the best manager in the world at this time was the figurehead of our club for some 7 years...He is our icon. And that's why it hurts so bad that we can't be together. Love story, my friend.After Lampard to City, Čech to Arsenal, it felt so great to have one legend at our side. And now... Maybe I'm too sentimental, but fuck it.Mourinho and Chelsea are like that couple that love each other so much, but just can't work it out and last. Adnane, stroey and Ossie the King 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El P. 1,354 Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 Now mourinho gone he should name and shame the players who wasnt giving are club 100% and get the cancer outta are clubMaybe, by calling Hiddink. Not publicly. Adnane 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ossie the King 634 Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3368106/The-players-need-sacking-Chelsea-captain-John-Terry-gives-damning-verdict-following-Jose-Mourinho-s-Stamford-Bridge-departure.htmlJT is one of the few things the supporters can look at with nothing but pride. He's one of us through and through. Hopefully a few home truths were spoken to certain members of the squad.This is a man who constantly works on improving himself, especially his fitness over the summer. A couple of players who came back from their break in a state that wasn't conducive to a title defence could learn a lot from him. Liquidator, stroey and Essien19 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDN Blue 7,903 Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 It depends whats your concept of "far". Mourinho will never emulate SAF success and thats for sure, perhaps he will do better than LVG, but if Guardiola really comes to City next season I don't see United winning anything relevant in the next 3 years.Yeah I mean I'm not even going to try and argue he'll be long-term there, even I can't sell that one to myself But I think we agree that United team isn't far from being where it needs to be. Mourinho will do that over his time and they'll get some success in silverware. Pep will do great things with City, but it won't be quite as easy ride as he's had with Bayern Ossie the King 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDN Blue 7,903 Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 I was speaking about the dilemma we are still facing as Chelsea fans atm. Not a single doubt he'll do just fine there, but if he does coach United, the love story is over and we're all against him now aren't we ?I don't think so. The fact Mourinho's name was heard throughout SB, throughout a 3-0 drubbing, shows how high in regard he's still left. When he came back with Inter, the reception was impeccable. We're respectful and whatever mind games or psychological warfare Mourinho must use when he's employed again, he'll always have deep respect for Chelsea fans alike. Ossie the King, stroey, Essien19 and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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