Ossie the King 634 Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 Agree with that, we dont need a Marque manager every time. If Athletico kept all their personnel over the years theyd surely be one of the best in the world. The reality is money talks and bullshit walks.Definitely need more of a hands off approach from the Russians' inner circle though, the way Ferguson was allowed to get on with it.City's best idea was to hire football men (from Barca) and let them get on with it. José was that for us, but the board didn't back him fully so now we're left with a vacuum. That's where the lack of consistency is evident.City have a cohesive long term plan whereas we're making it up as we go along. Fulham Broadway 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fulham Broadway 17,325 Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 Don't wanna be that guy, but its the setup at City with the Abu Dhabians, Qatar's more PSG-Barcelona centric. You spotted my deliberate error hjperdeath 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fernando 6,585 Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 City's best idea was to hire football men (from Barca) and let them get on with it. José was that for us, but the board didn't back him fully so now we're left with a vacuum. That's where the lack of consistency is evident.City have a cohesive long term plan whereas we're making it up as we go along.We might need Lampard then at the hierarchy. He is smart and polite. That's what needed when working with the higher ups. Ossie the King 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DYC. 7,542 Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 I hope you don't get on this forum anymore.Ah, one can only hope.Why would what he said be a bad thing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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lucio 5,418 Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 apologies if this has been posted, this guy gets it, for me Chelsea4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelsea? 892 Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 City's best idea was to hire football men (from Barca) and let them get on with it. José was that for us, but the board didn't back him fully so now we're left with a vacuum. That's where the lack of consistency is evident.City have a cohesive long term plan whereas we're making it up as we go along.the board backed fully .We were in the relegation battle for crying out loud. The man had to go .His second term with Chelsea has been a failure. The board gave him so much power by letting him sell our future due to his ego .He sold Lukaku, KDB, and Mata mostly because of ego clashes .Then the whole Eva thing. If I were Hazard and I was hurt and the manager is angry at the doctors for running onto the field, then I'd definitely "betray" him too. I want Carlo back here. Stats 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyalBlues 4,050 Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 Wish you all the best, Jose. Now the famous 'Jose's Shadow' finally vanished for good. Time to build a new history. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xPetrCechx 13,572 Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 stroey and Special 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stroey 2,525 Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 the board backed fully .We were in the relegation battle for crying out loud. The man had to go .His second term with Chelsea has been a failure. The board gave him so much power by letting him sell our future due to his ego .He sold Lukaku, KDB, and Mata mostly because of ego clashes .Then the whole Eva thing. If I were Hazard and I was hurt and the manager is angry at the doctors for running onto the field, then I'd definitely "betray" him too. I want Carlo back here.I am sorry but that was absolutely not full backing, they backed him October and sacked him in December. Maybe compared to other former sacked managers, he got 1-2 months longer, that's nothing considering how much he means for the fans and how much he's won for us. Can you imagine Barcelona sacking Pep if he was in the same position as Jose was? For the work Jose has done for Chelsea, he at least deserved the full season and not 4 months. They obviously let him down and didn't back him in the summer when he requested new signings, they could've backed him in January to give him the signings he wanted in the summer, but they haven't. We are qualified in the last 16 as group leaders, if that's not a sign of improvement then I don't know what is. And before you say he spend a lot: the title was won by Chelsea with a negative net spend (profit) plus in the January window in 2015 it was only a replacement for Schurrle because he wanted to leave. Yes Jose needs signings to get the best out of himself and the team, but you're also guaranteed trophies if you let him do that. Essien19 and Ossie the King 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Colored Sky 1,807 Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 I am sorry but that was absolutely not full backing, they backed him October and sacked him in December. Maybe compared to other former sacked managers, he got 1-2 months longer, that's nothing considering how much he means for the fans and how much he's won for us. Can you imagine Barcelona sacking Pep if he was in the same position as Jose was? For the work Jose has done for Chelsea, he at least deserved the full season and not 4 months. They obviously let him down and didn't back him in the summer when he requested new signings, they could've backed him in January to give him the signings he wanted in the summer, but they haven't. We are qualified in the last 16 as group leaders, if that's not a sign of improvement then I don't know what is. And before you say he spend a lot: the title was won by Chelsea with a negative net spend (profit) plus in the January window in 2015 it was only a replacement for Schurrle because he wanted to leave. Yes Jose needs signings to get the best out of himself and the team, but you're also guaranteed trophies if you let him do that.Yes, Pep would be sacked by Barca if he was in that position. Though it's hard in Spain.Really, only what Jose would have to do is to be in top 8. TOP 8, that's all what was required.I don't like the idea that manager has to spend 50m+ to get out of the bottom half of the table. Chequebook manager to the fullest.When players like Azpilicueta, JT, Ivanovic, his hardest, most loyal warriors are playing worse there's definitely wrong job by the manager. No two ways about it.Roman is such a mellow man now. Whenever he is at the game he is enjoying whenever we score like a kid. Now I have an idea that as long as ship will be steady he won't react. No more "2nd in the table is the first loser". I hope that he will bring Didier, JT, Lamps, Zola to work at the club at coaching level. Chelsea are doing great job at youth level and only need the right man to push them forward plus bring the old legends back to keep that identity. EMK 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyalBlues 4,050 Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 Back to the Moaning thread? Thread true color Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special 59 Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 Manchester United is now in Europa League. It's really hard for someone like Mourinho who won the CL twice and experienced the semi-final 6 times to coach them in Europa League. stroey 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Essien19 1,415 Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 Attending Lamps wedding...http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3367780/Jose-Mourinho-set-attend-Frank-Lampard-Christine-Bleakley-s-wedding-former-Chelsea-boss-gets-used-unemployment.htmlWhere is Fabs? Adnane, stroey, Ossie the King and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Essien19 1,415 Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 Man Utd: Sack Van Gaal and appoint Mourinho says HartsonFormer Arsenal striker John Hartson says Manchester United should sack Louis van Gaal and appoint Jose Mourinho.United are on their worst run in 17 years and haven't won in six matches, with their latest defeat being a 2-1 home loss to Norwich City.“I would get rid of him, he’s taken them backwards,” Hartson said of van Gaal.“’I'd change it now and I’d bring Mourinho in.“I wouldn’t be giving this man another penny to spend. He’s spent £250million and they’ve gone backwards," he added.Mourinho is available after being sacked as Chelsea manager earlier in the week.http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p03cm8v2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyalBlues 4,050 Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 Time for Portugal job?Will not hurt anyone, including himself Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tautvix 1,321 Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 Manchester United is now in Europa League. It's really hard for someone like Mourinho who won the CL twice and experienced the semi-final 6 times to coach them in Europa League.Well. We will not (most likely) even be in Europa League next season so why coaches like Guardiola or Simeone come to us then??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! edetarod 2,155 Posted December 20, 2015 Popular Post! Share Posted December 20, 2015 and i thought Star Wars had the biggest cult following Belgiannutt, Muzchap, Stats and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SinineUltra 1,170 Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 Well. We will not (most likely) even be in Europa League next season so why coaches like Guardiola or Simeone come to us then???Being in Europa League is worse than being out of Europe for a season. An off year would give the new manager time to adjust himself to the league/cups with right amount of rest inbetween for the players. The bigger question is attracting and keeping hold of quality players. Players' careers are relatively short, managers can afford to spend a year or two on building something. Like I said, getting in the right players while not playing in the CL is the hard part. Beirut_Blues, stroey and Stats 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xPetrCechx 13,572 Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 Mourinho has turned down Roma and is in talks with Manchester United. (Sky Italia) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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