The Mourinho Thread

[Blue Armour 4,759]

The words from Gary Neville were of more interest to me. He actually sounds like the 'supporter' in our forum, especially from 7:40 onwards

Doesn't really say it explicitly, but he sounds more pained about Chelsea's current situation

[Spike 12,049]

Spanish cunt sounds xenophobic.

Agreed.

Do not emphasize all spanish.

In the future could you report posts that you feel break the rules so they can be dealt with in a more timely fashion? The staff can't be everywhere and things slip through every now and then.

Thanks.

[Reddish-Blue 2,701]

I loved their analysis (Jamie, Frank and Gary)

It really resonates that both Mikel and Ramires do not have the footballing brain to be playing where they are.

This infatuation with defence has cost us more points.

The players are the wrong type of people to be trying to protect a 1-0 lead

Therefore - Jose is at fault - you can't have a cow and expect it to climb a tree like a squirrel! Similarly playing players out of position also fucks up the balance.

I think it was @zolayes who mentioned it's not just one thing - but lots of little things that make the difference - I completely agree

We have the most shots conceded against in the league - that is shocking

It stems from Ramires/Mikel out of position, then Cahil and Terry continually backing off players.

We've gone defence crazy to the point it's now punishing us.

The team needs to adopt a more balanced approach.

Jose CAN change this - but will he?

I have to say, your examples are amazing, Muzchap.

First the ferrari fucking up and then the cow failing to climb a tree

[MetsajCFC 1,255]

Lol wow - with that mentality - no wonder we are 15th

We lack ambition on the pitch - only one person responsible for sabotaging that and guess what - it ain't Fabregas

Matter of taste. I personally love physical old-school football which involves defending. Can't imagine us playing with army of dwarfs doing tika-taka 80% possession. It's just silly. Defending is as beautiful art as is attacking, it just requires some insight knowledge and experience to recognize it. How come Atletico aren't boring? They're just as defensive counter-attacking team as we are and we're rumored to be looking at Simone? So in that sense you're right, its the mentality that's keeping us back. And it really doesn't matter who it is or why he is trying to sabotage our squad, our manager, it's unacceptable. Could you imagine this kind of behaviour in an office type of work environment, unthinkable. Whoever it is, has to be gone on the second transfer window opens.

[CHOULO19 24,332]

Frank Lampard telling the players to play for the club when he did A LOT worse under AVB just epitomises the untruthful bullshit commentary about the situation from all the 'experts' and pundits.

They've all had PR trainings and they all make those claims about the need to support the manager and play for the badge according to those trained ngs. They mean absolutely nothing.

[MetsajCFC 1,255]

Frank Lampard telling the players to play for the club when he did A LOT worse under AVB just epitomises the untruthful bullshit commentary about the situation from all the 'experts' and pundits.

They've all had PR trainings and they all make those claims about the need to support the manager and play for the badge according to those trained ngs. They mean absolutely nothing.

It's like saying every footballer on this earth is only playing good to earn a move to Barcelona or Real Madrid.

[Parky 739]

I have had the time to reflect and analyse our current terrible situation.

First of all we stumbled into this situation via Jose's stubborn approach to first team selection, lack of squad rotation and unshakable belief in 'His' players. He continued to start the likes of Ivanovic and Fabregas when they were all both shockingly underperforming. Also the lack of belief and playing time for our fringe and youngsters did not help give them the confidence or match sharpness they deserved. When they were finally called up it was often at the worst situation possible with far too much pressure on them to perform.

Instead of trying to break out of a bad situation by being positive with his tactics, formation and selections Jose does the opposite and becomes even more negative and conservative. This approach leads our players to play with fear and trepidation rather than belief and exuberance. We have an absolute abundance of talent in our squad with all their combined talents we should be soundly destroying our weaker opponents by playing positively with belief, dynamism and passion.

Im sure his staff and players all know these factors to be true but cannot speak up as they are afraid of the reprisal they will suffer if they ever challenge 'his' ways especially in light of Eva's situation who was much liked and respected by the squad, staff and supporters.

Jose has to realise he has the support, resources and belief around him to evolve his approach to save the sinking ship. But ultimately I feel Jose's ego and stubbornness will be his downfall as he will either go down with the ship or more likely get pushed overboard by the ship's owners before it sinks.

We must all unite together whatever happens in future and rally around our club as no one person is bigger than the club.

KTBFFH!!!!

[Changingman_2000 876]

Jose, first and foremost, has to come to terms with the fact that, on a number of occasions during this calendar year, he has got it wrong. If he is to keep his job then he will need to start accepting his share of the blame. I'm not suggesting coming out in the media, the media can go fuck themselves. But within the confines of the club, his approach has to change. Team selection, tactically, motivationally, the lot.

If you think back to interviews in the past with the former spine of the team, Terry, Lampard, Drogba, they all used to state how deep an impact he had on them and they would have run through walls if he wanted them to, that's clearly not the case anymore with the current crop.

Selection wise, in my opinion, Mikel should have went years ago and shouldn't be considered for selection, Loftus-Cheek ahead of him every time. Fabregas further up the pitch because it's plain for all to see that he is NOT defensively minded. Costa is a liability, he offered nothing against Victimpool, nothing, and has been non-existent this season.

[Special Juan 28,865]

I wonder what revelations will arise today in saga Mourinho.

[Muzchap 8,966]

Jose, first and foremost, has to come to terms with the fact that, on a number of occasions during this calendar year, he has got it wrong. If he is to keep his job then he will need to start accepting his share of the blame. I'm not suggesting coming out in the media, the media can go fuck themselves. But within the confines of the club, his approach has to change. Team selection, tactically, motivationally, the lot.

If you think back to interviews in the past with the former spine of the team, Terry, Lampard, Drogba, they all used to state how deep an impact he had on them and they would have run through walls if he wanted them to, that's clearly not the case anymore with the current crop.

Selection wise, in my opinion, Mikel should have went years ago and shouldn't be considered for selection, Loftus-Cheek ahead of him every time. Fabregas further up the pitch because it's plain for all to see that he is NOT defensively minded. Costa is a liability, he offered nothing against Victimpool, nothing, and has been non-existent this season.

Agree wholeheartedly and before this turned into a forum war (which we are all guilty of - mea culpa) - these where the exact points being raised.

I have stated I want Jose gone - not because I don't appreciate what he has done for us a club - but because the current Jose IS NOT the Jose I remember. What we have is a bitter, twisted individual that lacks charisma, lacks foresight and doesn't really want to change anything.

The difference to his first stint is that we had players with big personalities - proven winners - and they got it! The world has changed, the players are more sensitive? now and the 'siege' mentality doesn't appear to work. Therefore he needs to adapt.

That's the issue for me - he is not adapting in a positive way - he's getting more negative and blowing up everything - almost like a scorched earth policy!

The club have been great TBH - they have stuck by him - he cannot fault them - so now he needs to drop the chip on his shoulder and knuckle down and figure this out!

If the team are complaining that the football they play is shit - ask them how they want to play and 'compromise' - life is all about compromise !!! Get the players to invest in the system and share the rewards - don't sulk and throw them under the bus.

There will be times when the players can attack as they want and times when Classic Mou park the bus tactics are applicable - be a little more relaxed and try this shit out. Not transfer list anybody who dares to question your approach. He's a football manager - not Stalin!

So that's my 2p on the subject.

If he can change - I would love him to stay, if he can't - I'm sorry but I will be glad to see the back of him !

[Changingman_2000 876]

Agree wholeheartedly and before this turned into a forum war (which we are all guilty of - mea culpa) - these where the exact points being raised.

I have stated I want Jose gone - not because I don't appreciate what he has done for us a club - but because the current Jose IS NOT the Jose I remember. What we have is a bitter, twisted individual that lacks charisma, lacks foresight and doesn't really want to change anything.

The difference to his first stint is that we had players with big personalities - proven winners - and they got it! The world has changed, the players are more sensitive? now and the 'siege' mentality doesn't appear to work. Therefore he needs to adapt.

That's the issue for me - he is not adapting in a positive way - he's getting more negative and blowing up everything - almost like a scorched earth policy!

The club have been great TBH - they have stuck by him - he cannot fault them - so now he needs to drop the chip on his shoulder and knuckle down and figure this out!

If the team are complaining that the football they play is shit - ask them how they want to play and 'compromise' - life is all about compromise !!! Get the players to invest in the system and share the rewards - don't sulk and throw them under the bus.

There will be times when the players can attack as they want and times when Classic Mou park the bus tactics are applicable - be a little more relaxed and try this shit out. Not transfer list anybody who dares to question your approach. He's a football manager - not Stalin!

So that's my 2p on the subject.

If he can change - I would love him to stay, if he can't - I'm sorry but I will be glad to see the back of him !

Completely agree mate.

[Muzchap 8,966]

Did you not know mourinhos style before he was hired?! Did it change!? Mourning never played a balanced team in his career.

Prob of Mikel and Ramires isn't their brains at least not on the pitch they just make a very poor midfield - every other top club has better. Their technique isn't good enough for this level and That's on Jose as he values strength and discipline over technique.

Yeah but he had changed remember

Yeah those guys, especially Ramires try hard - but are ultimately ineffective in those positions. We need upgrades or let's not use the fucking 4-2-3-1 system when we don't have the personnel

[Reddish-Blue 2,701]

Matter of taste. I personally love physical old-school football which involves defending. Can't imagine us playing with army of dwarfs doing tika-taka 80% possession. It's just silly. Defending is as beautiful art as is attacking, it just requires some insight knowledge and experience to recognize it. How come Atletico aren't boring? They're just as defensive counter-attacking team as we are and we're rumored to be looking at Simone? So in that sense you're right, its the mentality that's keeping us back. And it really doesn't matter who it is or why he is trying to sabotage our squad, our manager, it's unacceptable. Could you imagine this kind of behaviour in an office type of work environment, unthinkable. Whoever it is, has to be gone on the second transfer window opens.

You're right, defending is an art, and just like attacking, you need players with the right mentality to make it work.

When I look at the current squad, I don't see enough players with that sort of mentality. Only about 4 of them are good at defending, the rest of them are either attack-minded or average at defending & attacking.

As for Atletico being a defensive counter-attack team...when they attack, they do it as a unit of 4-5 players, and they look capable of scoring 3+ goals a game.

When I see Chelsea attack, it's Willian or Hazard or Costa with the ball, isolated against the opposition and generally the opposition manage to clear the ball or force a shot from a bad angle.

[Essien19 1,415]

Today we have Champions-League matches, but all the Dailymail is going on about are Chelsea, Mourinho and Hazard.

They care so much, they want him gone and a lot of guys are jumping on the bandwagon.
The situation is bizarre, but staying by his side is really upsetting the newspapers, absolutely loving it.
They know when Mourinho is gone Chelsea will become half the force they once were, better chances for winning something for the likes of Arsenal or Pool, but not going to happen any time soon, Abramovich would have fired Mourinho already if he wanted him gone.
Let's stick together and steamroll Kiev.

[Muzchap 8,966]

Today we have Champions-League matches, but all the Dailymail is going on about are Chelsea, Mourinho and Hazard.

They care so much, they want him gone and a lot of guys are jumping on the bandwagon.

The situation is bizarre, but staying by his side is really upsetting the newspapers, absolutely loving it.

They know when Mourinho is gone Chelsea will become half the force they once were, better chances for winning something for the likes of Arsenal or Pool, but not going to happen any time soon, Abramovich would have fired Mourinho already if he wanted him gone.

Let's stick together and steamroll Kiev.

Erm. I don't think teams are currently scared of playing us

The media are paid to write bollocks - why even reference them?

The thing is - Jose is not blameless as your post suggests - he 'was' one of the best managers last season, this season he is probably the 'worst' manager in the EPL. He and the Team need to sort their differences out and get playing again or our future games will only end one way - in defeat

[Changingman_2000 876]

So it's not Cesc...

Hazard?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/34708509

[Rmpr 8,977]

Maybe the story just wasnt true? Football fans are such an easy prey its quite hilarious the things most people in here believe...

[Changingman_2000 876]

Maybe the story just wasnt true? Football fans are such an easy prey its quite hilarious the things most people in here believe...

I'd very much like to think it's not true, and that the media are just being their usual cuntish self. But I do think sadly that there is something solid behind this.

[Essien19 1,415]

Erm. I don't think teams are currently scared of playing us

The media are paid to write bollocks - why even reference them?

The thing is - Jose is not blameless as your post suggests - he 'was' one of the best managers last season, this season he is probably the 'worst' manager in the EPL. He and the Team need to sort their differences out and get playing again or our future games will only end one way - in defeat

We play bad, really bad, and yes, Mourinho did make some mistakes, i agree with you.

But on the other side, we are the current Champions, so a bad spell must be allowed.

United, Arsenal, City, Pool, they all would have loved to win the league, but they didn't.

At the moment, we're at rock bottom, but it can only get better, not worse.

One thing shouldn't happen in the future, entering the private room of the referee and picking up a fight, that's not okay.

I don't think that Jose is currently one of the "worst" managers, he tries different things, because of that, he isn't becoming a bad

manager, he is still the same guy as last season, only more adapting to losing, but not for long.

The media should comply with objectivity and impartiality.

They have lost their way with Chelsea and Jose, especially the tabloids, no matter what you think about them,

they influence the opinions of a lot of people and what they are doing is wrong.

[ZOS 580]

Today we have Champions-League matches, but all the Dailymail is going on about are Chelsea, Mourinho and Hazard.

They care so much, they want him gone and a lot of guys are jumping on the bandwagon.

The situation is bizarre, but staying by his side is really upsetting the newspapers, absolutely loving it.

They know when Mourinho is gone Chelsea will become half the force they once were, better chances for winning something for the likes of Arsenal or Pool, but not going to happen any time soon, Abramovich would have fired Mourinho already if he wanted him gone.

Let's stick together and steamroll Kiev.

I agree. But some thing has to change... whether it is the manager or his way of doing things, it's Jose's choice. He has to make a decision ASAP