The Mourinho Thread

[kellzfresh 7,229]

I'm more concerned about how we play against westham.

The good news is that our defense has gotten far better without ivanovic. But our attacking is still poor. Hopefully more pressing and intensity with fullbacks going forward and combining with hazard and Willian will help but we play too individualistic these days when attacking instead of practicing some team moves to make it difficult for opponent to defend.

[Rhino's Skin 972]

We'll be positive when Chelsea plays positive football and positive results.

We'll be negative when Chelsea plays negative football and negative results.

It's not rocket science.

although you sound like you have good intentions, unfortunately even when we have positive results and performance some posters will still be negative. Nature of the beast

[Lapo Blues 21]

although you sound like you have good intentions, unfortunately even when we have positive results and performance some posters will still be negative. Nature of the beast

Nature of the beast or just plain fookin TROLLS?

[CHOULO19 24,332]

I just love when people try to rewrite history during tough times

[Muzchap 8,966]

I just love when people try to rewrite history during tough times

History is always flawed

Accounts of great battles are only ever written by the victors

I don't see the point in debating previous players - to me that's a pointless exercise.

I just want our focus on improving our current situation and team

[Stats 7,056]

I think some people are taking it abit overboard with KDB. It's all I see in the forum these days. Yea, I was annoyed when he was sold, much more than Mata. But come on, it's been done and people are forgetting the successful transfers, focusing on this 1 mess up.

I don't. I think people see the current situation we are in and how clueless we look in creating chances and obviously when a player we had on our hands goes and makes an impact at a inferior club like Wolfbsurg is one thing. But when he makes such an impact at the same time at a club like City, it just annoys people of how we let such a quality player go. This is a world class player we are talking about and people are obviously pissed because no other manager but Mourinho would have shipped him on and it frustrates the shit out of us.

Obviously there is a lot more talk about KDB right now because of the way we are underperforming but it is a forum and we discuss things and I don't see what is bad about that. I have these chats about KDB and our players with fellow fans and other rival fans on a regular basis in person so I don't really see the problem doing so on here.

[Iggy Doonican 4,186]

History is always flawed

Accounts of great battles are only ever written by the victors

I don't see the point in debating previous players - to me that's a pointless exercise.

I just want our focus on improving our current situation and team

As the old saying goes '' Success has a thousand fathers failure is an orphan''.

[johnnythefirst 1,076]

Schurrle has completely lost it already, he nosedived badly in his last six months here and if anything has got worse since leaving, coming to the end it was painfull him on the pitch, unfortunately his illness looks to have affected him as a player more than anyone could have imagined.

To be honest, he's really the only one of the recent Chelsea sales doing poorly at the moment. Still strange though, because after the world cup, I believed he'd be one of the leading players here for years (well, until Bayern would eventually snatch him of course).

[johnnythefirst 1,076]

I don't. I think people see the current situation we are in and how clueless we look in creating chances and obviously when a player we had on our hands goes and makes an impact at a inferior club like Wolfbsurg is one thing. But when he makes such an impact at the same time at a club like City, it just annoys people of how we let such a quality player go. This is a world class player we are talking about and people are obviously pissed because no other manager but Mourinho would have shipped him on and it frustrates the shit out of us.

Obviously there is a lot more talk about KDB right now because of the way we are underperforming but it is a forum and we discuss things and I don't see what is bad about that. I have these chats about KDB and our players with fellow fans and other rival fans on a regular basis in person so I don't really see the problem doing so on here.

They should have taken the Courtois route with KDB. Give him to a good to very good team for 2-3 years and then haul him through the big gate. Courtois won so much gold with Atletico I think he almost felt sad he had to leave, but he still came (and he has an even bigger winning mentality and stronger character than KDB. (Courtois is still closer to world class on his position than Kevin, being the second best in the world). I really don't understand why he insisted on KDB coming back after just one year, just to barely use him later. if he had played out on loan in Germany for 3 consecutive years, he'd be walking in the team right now. Mourinho or not...

[Beepu 1,714]

I don't. I think people see the current situation we are in and how clueless we look in creating chances and obviously when a player we had on our hands goes and makes an impact at a inferior club like Wolfbsurg is one thing. But when he makes such an impact at the same time at a club like City, it just annoys people of how we let such a quality player go. This is a world class player we are talking about and people are obviously pissed because no other manager but Mourinho would have shipped him on and it frustrates the shit out of us.

Obviously there is a lot more talk about KDB right now because of the way we are underperforming but it is a forum and we discuss things and I don't see what is bad about that. I have these chats about KDB and our players with fellow fans and other rival fans on a regular basis in person so I don't really see the problem doing so on here.

Yeah I get it, I like many here is also quite frustrated with our lack of attacking fluidity. But to be honest I don't think KDB would help us that much right now. The whole team is in a rut and our attacking players in terrible form bar Willian. It frustrates me as well to see him do well in City, I was so excited when he came back from his loan and was quite sad when city got him. I'm not trying to defend Mourinho here, just some perspective because I don't think seeing KDB play well would sting as much if we are top of the league. But really it's 1 failure in transfer from how many?? Whiners don't talk about the decision to bring back Courtois. If you focus on crap you will only see crap.

Nothing wrong in talking about it, but the same things are being repeated and there are always 2 opinions. Too much whining.

[Special Juan 27,429]

For me he needs new ideas, he needs to get away from shackling players that create and allow them to express themselves more. Mourinho has stagnated for me, and that has transmitted to the players, as well as other teams cottoning on to exactly how we play. There is little variation to the playing style, it has become predictable and stale and with the league and managers as clever as they, it's very easy to see how to beat and frustrate us.

Jose needs a new approach.

[kellzfresh 7,229]

For me he needs new ideas, he needs to get away from shackling players that create and allow them to express themselves more. Mourinho has stagnated for me, and that has transmitted to the players, as well as other teams cottoning on to exactly how we play. There is little variation to the playing style, it has become predictable and stale and with the league and managers as clever as they, it's very easy to see how to beat and frustrate us.

Jose needs a new approach.

The problem is that he's telling the players to do what they want in attack. No attacking movement is practiced, no passing moves is practiced, all we do is pass the ball to hazard or fabregas and hope they do something. Then on top of all these players playing with their own individual mindset, the fullbacks are not allowed to go higher to provide width compared to other big teams.

It's like gathering players and telling them how to position themselves when defending but do what any of you want in attack. That's why we don't look like a team when attacking, no combination plays, nothing to look like we practiced any patterns.

Our poor defense this year has exposed this big flaw about Mourinho.

[Special Juan 27,429]

The problem is that he's telling the players to do what they want in attack. No attacking movement is practiced, no passing moves is practiced, all we do is pass the ball to hazard or fabregas and hope they do something. Then on top of all these players playing with their own individual mindset, the fullbacks are not allowed to go higher to provide width compared to other big teams.

It's like gathering players and telling them how to position themselves when defending but do what any of you want in attack. That's why we don't look like a team when attacking, no combination plays, nothing to look like we practiced any patterns.

Our poor defense this year has exposed this big flaw about Mourinho.

Like I said, new ideas, an attacking coach, anything to help the situation. It can't continue like this, or is Jose's stubbornness so large he cannot reach out?

I think we are more like to see Jose going the journey than anything changing on the football side of it.

[Rhino's Skin 972]

wish Mourinho had given those rude, impolite, attention seeking lads a right telling off instead.

and I am not talking about any players here ;-)

[petre.ispirescu 4,928]

For me he needs new ideas, he needs to get away from shackling players that create and allow them to express themselves more. Mourinho has stagnated for me, and that has transmitted to the players, as well as other teams cottoning on to exactly how we play. There is little variation to the playing style, it has become predictable and stale and with the league and managers as clever as they, it's very easy to see how to beat and frustrate us.

Jose needs a new approach.

Like I said, new ideas, an attacking coach, anything to help the situation. It can't continue like this, or is Jose's stubbornness so large he cannot reach out?

I think we are more like to see Jose going the journey than anything changing on the football side of it.

My thoughts exactly. He needs to change something and get rid of this siege mentality that he's implemented to the players and to the club as a whole. I feel that the players have lost interest in him, they're nowadays going into games like it's the Battle of Waterloo. Football is not war, let the players enjoy the beautiful game.

What's the most frustrating thing with Jose Mourinho is the way he prepares his games. Regardless of what team he's managing and what players he has at his disposal, he's always looking to cancel out his opponents and play by their weakness, rather than imposing his own style. This is one thing I admire about Guardiola, no matter it is Real Madrid, Dortmund, Paris or some minor league minnows, he is always playing proactive football, by the strengths of his own players.

[kellzfresh 7,229]

Like I said, new ideas, an attacking coach, anything to help the situation. It can't continue like this, or is Jose's stubbornness so large he cannot reach out?

I think we are more like to see Jose going the journey than anything changing on the football side of it.

With this current Mourinho attacking style, it can only be very successful if he had players who could make things happen on their own, create chances individually. People like hazard of last season, Douglas Costa, one on one dribblers or a striker like drogba who lampard had to just lift the ball up to and Drogba did the rest.

Unfortunately for Mourinho, this team have lack of dribbling fullbacks, and only one good dribbling one on one winger in hazard. He's tried salah, cuadrado, Willian, schurlle, and now watching Yarmolenko looking for more individual dribblers to balance his attacking tactics.

Finding players who are experts in dribbling to help his individualistic tactics is hard to find unfortunately for Mourinho.

[Fernando 6,464]

I think if we win against West Ham the tides start to change.

We are still playing like crap but against West Ham a win at whatever cost would be great. Even if we play 18 century futbol.

Just need another win to get the momentum going.

[Essien19 1,415]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3286420/Pep-Guardiola-keen-manage-Premier-League-team-London-fails-agree-new-deal-Bayern-Munich.html

Please no, don't do it Roman!