The Mourinho Thread

[Rhino's Skin 972]

no, the usa thing does not count but the charity shield counts as a trophy, does not. as does super cup or super copa etc etc.

i am miles away from going to the match, but for me, it was a massive thing, simply cos arsenal was involved. and the general sentiment on this forum was that it was a massive thing. hence why i said what i said.

well here in UK..its not regarded as a 'massive' thing. Officially ( The FA ) its a friendly and most supporters regard it as that.....had we been playing Villa instead of Arsenal, it wouldnt have made a difference.

[lucio 5,418]

KdB didnt get motm in any of the games he played with us.

He was ok v Hull but others put in better performances and he progressively got worse.

Rumours about his training ethics and his dad/ agent knocking on Mourinhos door all the time were rife.

As a young man he needed to grow up and learn more which he wasnt prepared to do at Chelsea....at Wolfsburg he became the big fish in a little pond which suited him whereas at Chelsea he could have grown into a big fish but there were other fish just as big to fight off.

Chelsea got an excellent price plus sell on fee for someone who didnt have the balls to fight.

At the time that was the correct decision for the club and for him which Mourinho sanctioned.

i don't think he should have been dropped after manchester united game.

even if the correct decision was to sell, not him and mata, without bringing in another 15 goal a season playmaker.

[supporter 3,088]

I understand it is difficult to see how Kevin De Bruyne is playing with Manchester City when he was in our squad, but I think sometimes some criticism against Jose are disproportionate seeing some things that Jose has gotten for us concerning our policy on signings.

It is true that Jose has made a mistake in some signing / selling like Kevin De Bruyne or Mata (although Mata is not being A TOP TOP player with United being really honest). But Jose has also had successes in our policy of signings with players like Kurt Zouma, who will be one of the best Centre-backs in the world for the next decade and was signed by Jose when he was a child. Zouma is a success.

Jose also recovered Matic (with the money received in exchange for Mata) and he is now one of the best defensive midfielders in the world. Matic is another success.

Courtois Come back with us last season and Jose opted for him instead of Peter Cech because Courtois is the future. If Jose just wanted to bet on "the old school" He could have sold Courtois to Real Madrid or Barcelona for 50 million and Peter Cech would be our goalkeeper. But Jose opted for Courtois thinking about the future. Courtois is also a success.

Eden Hazard was the best player in the Premier League last season and he has improved a lot thanks to Jose, and although now he is going through a bad time in his performance, but Jose has helped him to become a better player, and I am sure that thanks the "mind games" Eden Hazard will be best player at the end of the season. Jose Mourinho has helped to make him a better player. Hazard is also a success.

William was signed in the last minute of the transfer market thanks to a call from Jose and he is now one of the the best offensive midfielders. Willian is also a success.

Azpilicueta has become one of the best defenders in the world under the direction of Jose and has made him one of our most important players. Azpilicueta is another success.

I understand and realize that now everything seems sucks because our season is being a horrible nightmare, but our present can not cover our past and what Jose is doing with us.

I respect all opinions, but I also think that some criticisms sometimes are disproportionate.

And I hope that we can continue to have a similar performance like in the last week and gradually we can recover our actual performance.

Regards to ALL.

[Roquila 1,335]

Are u serious bro? U judging him for 13 games. What about cups he won with us. Chesea is in his DNA, he is one of us and the best for this team. In last 2 games we have seen a little progression, slowly we are getting there. It's not that Im his fanboy but let's be fair all the players were not on their level.

I am judging what can be judgeable. We played 13 games and we were shit in most of them. We've been shit since January though.

[nullabletype 987]

I am judging what can be judgeable. We played 13 games and we were shit in most of them. We've been shit since January though.

Right, let's sack him.

Who do you bring in?

[Muzchap 8,966]

Since January? Nah..we just play with different strategy and we won the tittle in May.

We have been shit since January - honestly our performances are on a downward spiral.

I won't keep repeating myself - but we are hopeless - we can either defend and get a draw or attack and lose!

We create fuck all from open play and rarely trouble the opposition

Our full backs never overlap and when they do its a waste of time

I agree though - who do you bring in? I just don't know anymore but our team is a shadow of the one that started the 14/15 season so brightly. Since the Spuds game we have regressed to amateur football it seems.

I agree that 'winning' is the ultimate yardstick - and I can tolerate for the most part the dull, boring play - but now we are not winning its no longer acceptable to me, as a fan.

People can say Jose has Chelsea in his DNA all they like - but if he gets sacked - he will still take the money, please let's not delude ourselves with 'loyalty' this and that - it does not exist in football. MOURINHO is an employee and he will act like one when he leaves and the next club he goes to will be in his DNA rinse and repeat.

[Stats 7,147]

Well not exactly but you can see a lot of negativity in this forum which wasn't before. As a admin you need to prevent that, all the old members are quitting slowly, I'm very connected to TC but we need to change a little bit. IMO

There is negativity due to how the team is performing. No one is threatening to go to Mourinho's house and assasinate him are they? Members are discussing their concerns about Mourinho and the team and that is totally fine. It is a forum. of course when we have better days it will be more of a cheerful forum but everything I have seen so far has been fine. It seems the only people who are complaining about negativity are the ones who can't find a fault in Mourinho.

As with old members. people like Lionsden are being banned for simply being over-critical which I think was very harsh as he was an excellent contributor and rarely if ever offended anyone. If we are going to start deleting comments and so on for people being critical over Mourinho then that is just as worse as members getting sacked for having a constant negative attitude. I was looking back and all the comments that have been against Mourinho have been well argued and the reasons are valid.

[kmk108 1,186]

I am judging what can be judgeable. We played 13 games and we were shit in most of them. We've been shit since January though.

I get the whole "not playing pretty football" since January, but we were far from shit in the second half of the season. We only dropped 3 more points in the second half than the first half. We may have played a style that looked better, but we weren't much worse in terms of results.

[Laugh1ngMan 393]

We have been shit since January - honestly our performances are on a downward spiral.

I won't keep repeating myself - but we are hopeless - we can either defend and get a draw or attack and lose!

We create fuck all from open play and rarely trouble the opposition

Our full backs never overlap and when they do its a waste of time

I agree though - who do you bring in? I just don't know anymore but our team is a shadow of the one that started the 14/15 season so brightly. Since the Spuds game we have regressed to amateur football it seems.

I agree that 'winning' is the ultimate yardstick - and I can tolerate for the most part the dull, boring play - but now we are not winning its no longer acceptable to me, as a fan.

People can say Jose has Chelsea in his DNA all they like - but if he gets sacked - he will still take the money, please let's not delude ourselves with 'loyalty' this and that - it does not exist in football. MOURINHO is an employee and he will act like one when he leaves and the next club he goes to will be in his DNA rinse and repeat.

We need to bring in some people with end product.

That is why i think it was a massive mistake to sell Schurlle when we did. For all of his shortcommings he was always a goal threat.

Right now we have two consistent goal threats, but Hazard's end product isn't the best and he should be making more runs off the ball into the box and Costa relies on good service which he isn't getting.

And then we have Willian, who's end product is non existent (at least he is been training on his free kicks), Cesc who has been missing for too long now and Oscar who is just too inconsistent

I still have hope for Pedro once we get our act together but so far he is finding it tough as well

[Blue_Fox_ 2,086]

http://weaintgotnohistory.sbnation.com/2015/10/22/9600320/introducing-the-hottest-new-dance-move-the-mourinho :eyebrows:

[stroey 2,525]

West Ham boss Slaven Bilic claims Chelsea's Jose Mourinho is hated because of 'jealousy'

http://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/613974/West-Ham-boss-Slaven-Bilic-Chelsea-Jose-Mourinho-hated-jealousy-Premier-League-news

[Muzchap 8,966]

There is negativity due to how the team is performing. No one is threatening to go to Mourinho's house and assasinate him are they? Members are discussing their concerns about Mourinho and the team and that is totally fine. It is a forum. of course when we have better days it will be more of a cheerful forum but everything I have seen so far has been fine. It seems the only people who are complaining about negativity are the ones who can't find a fault in Mourinho.

As with old members. people like Lionsden are being banned for simply being over-critical which I think was very harsh as he was an excellent contributor and rarely if ever offended anyone. If we are going to start deleting comments and so on for people being critical over Mourinho then that is just as worse as members getting sacked for having a constant negative attitude. I was looking back and all the comments that have been against Mourinho have been well argued and the reasons are valid.

What - Lionsden had been banned? Since when?

I sincerely hope this is not the case - I like to see well reasoned critical posts, it forces you to ask yourself difficult questions and challenges your whole belief structure. Debate is good - the Greeks knew that. A society/forum without debate is like a river without water...

[Muzchap 8,966]

https://twitter.com/ChelsTransfer/status/657316263929225216

Night.

To be fair - even I could give an opposition team talk.

Attack down the left, mark Fabregas and Costa - overlap the wingers and exploit the fact that we sit deep.

Ping in low balls to the box, wait for us to try and counter instead of cleaning the immediate danger and press - will open up a potential GSO (goal scoring opportunity)

Teams know they can overload the midfield against us with their fullbacks pushing up. It's like Chess - the only way to stop this is by us pushing our fullbacks forward - but it hasn't happened for a while

[Jase 43,479]

Well not exactly but you can see a lot of negativity in this forum which wasn't before. As a admin you need to prevent that, all the old members are quitting slowly, I'm very connected to TC but we need to change a little bit. IMO

If we're going to stop members from having discussion - yes, it's negative stuff at the moment but the members involved have also talked positive stuff before - then we will lose members fast, never mind the old ones quitting. It will be nice if people learn to ignore at times.

P.S. Don't need members to tell admins/mods how to do our jobs.

[DYC. 7,542]

West Ham boss Slaven Bilic claims Chelsea's Jose Mourinho is hated because of 'jealousy'

http://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/613974/West-Ham-boss-Slaven-Bilic-Chelsea-Jose-Mourinho-hated-jealousy-Premier-League-news

That's silly. People enjoy Mourinho failing because he has a big mouth, gets into a lot of fights and has a high opinion of himself. It's not exclusive to Mourinho, it goes for any person in any environment. It's only natural.

His fans love it of course.

[Tomo 21,751]

No I don't at all actually.

I am a massave Jose supporter but my support for Chelsea comes first. I'm just saying what I see. Jose selling players like.. schurrle.. KDB... Mata... Lukaku.....

Yes we have brought in Costa.. Willian and ermmmm Zouma.

Don't even start with the Fabregash bullshit!

Play we are playing dreadfull football. We all know it. You know it.. i know it.. We all know it.

My patience is wearing thin!

Schurrle who has epically flopped at Wolfsburg? Mata who is on his top form for the first time in nearly 3 years?

[Blue Armour 4,448]

But if you look at it form another angle it is good he is giving his predecessor the opportunity to build the team fresh from ground up.

That is indeed one way of looking at it,..but the end result was that he left United with a lackluster squad and recommended Moyes to take charge.

They ended up way outside the champions league spots. Thankfully for United, they had the revenue to repair the damage

[Essien19 1,415]

For now. This thread is worse than Benitez thread. The owner/admins or moderators must intervene to stop this. TC is losing that fun that had before.

The war has just begun!

I have seen it during the spell of Nando, shit will get ugly, only a matter of time.

We should do it the right way and battle it out, so it's finished once and for all.

The two brigades already have troops on the ground, the anti-mou brigade is superior in numbers but that means nothing;

pack your shit and fuck back twice as hard, i have got your back.

It's a war of attrition and we're not gonna lose it.

[Henrique 9,133]

Everybody knows I'm not a big fan of Mourinho, but this KDB thing is getting pretty ridiculous.

Yesterday I just realized there were 150 members reading his thread, and I thought he just scored 5 goals, then went to see the result and realized he just scored a winner against Sevilla ...I just read something on DM saying he is the man of english football this season. He is not worth City paid for him.

Thats so fucking ridiculous. The fact KDB was discarded after 3 or 4 games, speaks loud about Jose Mourinho (the club was investing in rising star, and now is getting Barcelona rejects) but to be honest KDB left the club almost 2 seasons ago.

I'm looking forward West Ham and waiting to see what Mourinho will bring in that game.

Crying for KDB at this moment doesn't make any sense, he is not even a Chelsea player so I don't understand why everyone is talking about him in this forum.

[Lapo Blues 21]

Freindly when we lose, a massive piece of important silverware when we win it

Yap, we're not the same fans compared to those idiot gooners especially AKBs morons who thinks 4th place is actual trophy, even that CShield is just friendly.

Can you imagine the suffering of those deluded fans by wenger deceit?

Mou indeed made some mistake lately, but he is all about winning mentality.