The Mourinho Thread

[Fulham Broadway 17,810]

I think four of the players have had kids recently. Theres obviously too much shagging or nagging going on.

Bottom line is they and Mourinho are human, not constant winning machines. Newcastle are just one of several teams that play like its their CL final when they play us since 2005.

The sense of entitlement here is ridiculous.

[cfcs most wanted 657]

I think four of the players have had kids recently. Theres obviously too much shagging or nagging going on.

Bottom line is they and Mourinho are human, not constant winning machines. Newcastle are just one of several teams that play like its their CL final when they play us since 2005.

The sense of entitlement here is ridiculous.

Bayern wins the league every time, reaches the semifinal of UCL each time, why can't we??? We are in the top 4 European sides still and we should constantly perform to prove that

[xPetrCechx 13,598]

I think four of the players have had kids recently. Theres obviously too much shagging or nagging going on.

Bottom line is they and Mourinho are human, not constant winning machines. Newcastle are just one of several teams that play like its their CL final when they play us since 2005.

The sense of entitlement here is ridiculous.

No.

We Just play like a relegation zone team against team... watch the first half. it's our fault.

[Essien19 1,415]

You're either knee deep in water and staring at the pyramids (De-Nile) or are seeing something completely different to me

We have a disagreement, that may not be exactly nice, but that happens in life.

So how long are you prepared to give him?

After the 7th matchday being the number 15th in the table isn't nice, neither is losing to some mid-table teams, but there will come enough opportunities to balance the score, 5 points to Arsenal or 8 points to United means little.

The history speaks for themselves, United doesn't have a Ferguson who doesn't bottle it nor "El Ingeniero" is a master tactician.

Last year City occasionally came back, the difference isn't the end of the world yet.

We'll see, but they can't hold onto their current position until may.

The season will end in may, 93 points are there for the taking, you win some, you lose some, judge at the end of the season or

when we are bottom of the league in december, but that's clearly not happening.

I see that Jurgen Klopp has a high appreciation, last year he finished the first spell of the season as the number 17th,

the club showed faith and look at what happened, hire and fire isn't that good for a project longterm.

Are you happy with our performances since Jan?

I had my complains about some perfomances during the second spell of the season 2014/2015, but the boys got the job done and overall they were crowded as one of the most dominant teams in english history, no team could cope with us, big bulldozer!

Wenger, Pellegrini, Van Gaal and all the other managers and fans would have jerked off to that dream come true, only here some guys are too greedy.

As Mourinho said, every team gives more against the current champion, all of them would like to teach us a lesson.

How many teams/coaches have defended the championship apart from Sir Manchester United/Alex Ferguson in recent history?

All of our opponents took the game by the balls, especially Swansea, Crystal Palace and Newcastle United once again suprised me.

They gave everything and earned their money!

Are you happy that we drew with the worst team in the league?

They run riot against us, gave their everything and we went 2 down.

They didn't play like their position could suggest, they participate in the league and have quality.

The first half was shambolic, but we are the current champions and came back, after Fabregas magical pass (finally....)

Pedro should have scored from that and the mission three points would have been accomplished!

Sadly, he missed, now we are having this disussion, that's life, that's football, people have to deal with it.

Do you really think that i am happy?

No, there were lots of problems, but what do you want to hear?

That i criticise individual players and call for a big shift, Mourinho gave some players chances, but it wasn't that great,

now call for a beheading and cry like a bitch, when the big russian guy isn't that quick?!

No, i don't do that, the team has to analyze their mistakes and next time, we will be better.

The calm people always win the freaggin' war, stay calm and let the professionals do their jobs.

There must be a new form of amnesia out there; we know what we are, current champions of england, let that sink in!

Mourinho is no Harry Potter and able to pull out his ward so we suddenly fuck them up, improvement goes match by match.

Therefore we need faith, but after 7th matches, it's all gone, what can i do, what can i say to that?!

Don't know and slowly don't care!

Are you happy that squad rotation does not exist?

Kenedy, Traore, Loftus-Cheek, Zouma, Remy, Falcao, Willian, Mikel, Ramires, Baba and so on, all of them were rewarded playing time!

Nowadays i read how good this Ramires dude is and maybe a double pivot with Mikel or Loftus-Cheek should be the solution.

After one bad game, would i instantly change my formations?

Sadly i am stupid enough to change quickly while playing fantasy football league, i have to learn from my mistakes!

Luckily Mourinho isn't that stupid. Maybe now, when Baba is fully fit, he can play more, Loftus-Cheek is also an option, but that's it.

In the past i have read that Mr. Ancelotti would be a perfect fit, (that's not necessarily for you Muzchap...)

Really?! That dude didn't allow Raphael Varane much playing time, other prospects were non existent and only there for backups,

that should speak volumes, i leave you guys there...

Are you happy that Ivanovic starts every game?

I would have kept Filipe Luis and gave him more playing time, but Mourinho didn't trust him enough.

Baba wasn't match fit to start for Chelsea, he was new to the country, Mourinho is not a magician, someone had to play and Ivanovic is still better than all of us. If someone thinks otherwise, feel free to submit an application, i wish you luck, you gonna need it!

Calling for Ivanovics head is popular, you will earn a lot of likes, but you have to think rationally, we don't have a better alternative!

Are you happy that Chelsea are constantly embarrassed by Mou's antics?

Mourinho has defended Chelsea more than any manager in the recent years, the phrase "one of us" doesn't come from nothing.

Did i like his recent fight with Mr. and Mrs. Benitez?

No, he stepped over the line, but that happens in the heat of the moment!

The disaster with Ms. Carneiro could have been avoided, but both are adults and acted way out of line.

I wish her all the best, some guys on bluemoon would welcome her, do it, i have no problem.

But that's enough, otherwise i don't have a problem with our head coach.

Of course Mourinho doesn't throw individual people under the bus, they are going to be benched, but only if there is a reasonable replacement!

Calling Mr. Wenger a "specialist in failure" and beating him in his 1000 game in charge with 6:0 is classic Jose.

In my view that's harsh, but fairplay, he took him out!

Jose Mourinho isn't here to play nice and make friends, he is here to win, that's all what matters. The winner takes it all!

As i stated before, for me it's not the right time for pulling the plugg.

I can only speak for myself, but even if he doesn't win a title, he should stay!

He is a serial winner, that should mean something!

How do you know we aren't? After all this is the first time in over 20 years this is happening to us, zero signs of improvement, zero signs Mourinho isn't going to drop his favs!

And ask yourself, why. Why is TC depressing around here? Is it because of our woeful performances? Is it because Mourinho's refusal to drop certain repeating offenders? Is it because Mourinho doesn't trust RLC and co? Is it because we are having the worst run any Chelsea fan has seen for over 20 years? Is it because of the bad transfer window? And lastly, is it because of the BAD results we are getting?

"B--but! We drew at SJP!" Newcastle are our bogey side but come on! I'm sorry, but it seems that even if Newcastle were down to 8 men, we still couldn't beat them. We are suppose to beat Newcastle easily. They drew with United because United were still playing with their new toys. And drawing at SJP is just a small positive surrounding a lot of negatives that happened yesterday.

And thanks but, I'll stay and talk in TC when I want to.

Fairplay to you, i didn't watch Chelsea twenty years ago.

Does Mourinho make mistakes and questionable things?

I am with you, but neither of us is Mr. Perfect.

I didn't say that you are not allowed to share your thoughts with the community, i am only surprised how the mood has changed,

hardly any positive thing to say or comprehensive solution, it's all about the same things, time and time again.

It's all speculation, but i can't see that without Fabregas, Hazard, Costa and so on the others would step up, Mourinho let Kenedys play but that wasn't that big revelation to me, yeah, not bad, but for me not better than the "Stars".

[Muzchap 8,966]

We have a disagreement, that may not be exactly nice, but that happens in life.

After the 7th matchday being the number 15th in the table isn't nice, neither is losing to some mid-table teams, but there will come enough opportunities to balance the score, 5 points to Arsenal or 8 points to United means little.

The history speaks for themselves, United doesn't have a Ferguson who doesn't bottle it nor "El Ingeniero" is a master tactician.

Last year City occasionally came back, the difference isn't the end of the world yet.

We'll see, but they can't hold onto their current position until may.

The season will end in may, 93 points are there for the taking, you win some, you lose some, judge at the end of the season or

when we are bottom of the league in december, but that's clearly not happening.

I see that Jurgen Klopp has a high appreciation, last year he finished the first spell of the season as the number 17th,

the club showed faith and look at what happened, hire and fire isn't that good for a project longterm.

I had my complains about some perfomances during the second spell of the season 2014/2015, but the boys got the job done and overall they were crowded as one of the most dominant teams in english history, no team could cope with us, big bulldozer!

Wenger, Pellegrini, Van Gaal and all the other managers and fans would have jerked off to that dream come true, only here some guys are too greedy.

As Mourinho said, every team gives more against the current champion, all of them would like to teach us a lesson.

How many teams/coaches have defended the championship apart from Sir Manchester United/Alex Ferguson in recent history?

All of our opponents took the game by the balls, especially Swansea, Crystal Palace and Newcastle United once again suprised me.

They gave everything and earned their money!

They run riot against us, gave their everything and we went 2 down.

They didn't play like their position could suggest, they participate in the league and have quality.

The first half was shambolic, but we are the current champions and came back, after Fabregas magical pass (finally....)

Pedro should have scored from that and the mission three points would have been accomplished!

Sadly, he missed, now we are having this disussion, that's life, that's football, people have to deal with it.

Do you really think that i am happy?

No, there were lots of problems, but what do you want to hear?

That i criticise individual players and call for a big shift, Mourinho gave some players chances, but it wasn't that great,

now call for a beheading and cry like a bitch, when the big russian guy isn't that quick?!

No, i don't do that, the team has to analyze their mistakes and next time, we will be better.

The calm people always win the freaggin' war, stay calm and let the professionals do their jobs.

There must be a new form of amnesia out there; we know what we are, current champions of england, let that sink in!

Mourinho is no Harry Potter and able to pull out his ward so we suddenly fuck them up, improvement goes match by match.

Therefore we need faith, but after 7th matches, it's all gone, what can i do, what can i say to that?!

Don't know and slowly don't care!

Kenedy, Traore, Loftus-Cheek, Zouma, Remy, Falcao, Willian, Mikel, Ramires, Baba and so on, all of them were rewarded playing time!

Nowadays i read how good this Ramires dude is and maybe a double pivot with Mikel or Loftus-Cheek should be the solution.

After one bad game, would i instantly change my formations?

Sadly i am stupid enough to change quickly while playing fantasy football league, i have to learn from my mistakes!

Luckily Mourinho isn't that stupid. Maybe now, when Baba is fully fit, he can play more, Loftus-Cheek is also an option, but that's it.

In the past i have read that Mr. Ancelotti would be a perfect fit, (that's not necessarily for you Muzchap...)

Really?! That dude didn't allow Raphael Varane much playing time, other prospects were non existent and only there for backups,

that should speak volumes, i leave you guys there...

I would have kept Filipe Luis and gave him more playing time, but Mourinho didn't trust him enough.

Baba wasn't match fit to start for Chelsea, he was new to the country, Mourinho is not a magician, someone had to play and Ivanovic is still better than all of us. If someone thinks otherwise, feel free to submit an application, i wish you luck, you gonna need it!

Calling for Ivanovics head is popular, you will earn a lot of likes, but you have to think rationally, we don't have a better alternative!

Mourinho has defended Chelsea more than any manager in the recent years, the phrase "one of us" doesn't come from nothing.

Did i like his recent fight with Mr. and Mrs. Benitez?

No, he stepped over the line, but that happens in the heat of the moment!

The disaster with Ms. Carneiro could have been avoided, but both are adults and acted way out of line.

I wish her all the best, some guys on bluemoon would welcome her, do it, i have no problem.

But that's enough, otherwise i don't have a problem with our head coach.

Of course Mourinho doesn't throw individual people under the bus, they are going to be benched, but only if there is a reasonable replacement!

Calling Mr. Wenger a "specialist in failure" and beating him in his 1000 game in charge with 6:0 is classic Jose.

In my view that's harsh, but fairplay, he took him out!

Jose Mourinho isn't here to play nice and make friends, he is here to win, that's all what matters. The winner takes it all!

As i stated before, for me it's not the right time for pulling the plugg.

I can only speak for myself, but even if he doesn't win a title, he should stay!

He is a serial winner, that should mean something!

Fairplay to you, i didn't watch Chelsea twenty years ago.

Does Mourinho make mistakes and questionable things?

I am with you, but neither of us is Mr. Perfect.

I didn't say that you are not allowed to share your thoughts with the community, i am only surprised how the mood has changed,

hardly any positive thing to say or comprehensive solution, it's all about the same things, time and time again.

It's all speculation, but i can't see that without Fabregas, Hazard, Costa and so on the others would step up, Mourinho let Kenedys play but that wasn't that big revelation to me, yeah, not bad, but for me not better than the "Stars".

Really enjoyed reading your post - I seem to have run out of likes at the moment

I absolutely get and appreciate where you are coming from. Trust me - I would normally be the one making your arguments

But - something inside me has snapped and it cannot be repaired. I no longer believe Mourinho is the right man for this club.

Trust me - I hate feeling this way - it's conflicted, all I ever wanted was Mou back, but now I can't stand seeing his face as the face of Chelsea - it makes me cringe and die a little inside when I see him acting a twat in press conferences.

I just want a rational normal manager - who is prepared to be adaptable and take risks.

Yes - changing things randomly does not work - I get that - I love maths but the longer it continues not changing the balance of probability for success actually reduces. I'm not asking for wholesale changes - just play the players in form. I'm happy to accept the odd loss here and there as players bed in. As they will be gaining valuable experience.

If the team goes out and gives 100% and looses - that's fair! What I can't stand s our awful current performances where flukes and/or players being sent off is the only reason for picking up points.

Our total lack of desire, passion and chemistry is what really angers me it's like a team of strangers! I never saw a UTD title winning team act like this!!!

Which leads me to believe there are problems behind the scene...

[Fulham Broadway 17,810]

No.

We Just play like a relegation zone team against team... watch the first half. it's our fault.

Chels are invariably shit first half then Mourinho gives them a rocket up the arse at half time. Newcastle, west brom, villa amongst others always raise their game against us. I am not going to be a moaning, negative spoilt fucker about this, watched Chelsea for too long.

[Fulham Broadway 17,810]

Bayern wins the league every time, reaches the semifinal of UCL each time, why can't we??? We are in the top 4 European sides still and we should constantly perform to prove that

It would be nice wouldnt it ? Unfortunately this is Chelsea we are talking about. Surely Chelsea being the only English team to win their last group game must warm the cockles of your heart ? Bayern wouldnt be so successful with Arsenal, Man Utd, Man City, and wet Stoke aways in the Bundesligue.

Chin up, and KTBFFH old chap !

[quickpassnmove 924]

bunch of nonsense discussion. Chelsea need a next manager, the kind that AVB was supposed to be.

this league is moving forward and it looks to me that Chelsea don't know what they're doing (although the same can be said for clubs like Newcastle and Sunderland).

[Blue Colored Sky 1,807]

Chels are invariably shit first half then Mourinho gives them a rocket up the arse at half time. Newcastle, west brom, villa amongst others always raise their game against us. I am not going to be a moaning, negative spoilt fucker about this, watched Chelsea for too long.

And what those teams do to United, Arsenal, City and Liverpool ? Genuine question.

Let's say West Brom, team that raises their level every time we play them, apparently. XXI century 2002-2011 11 encounters, 11 wins in the row for Chelsea. This is our bogey team ? When you play with zero intensity and aggression and you're too soft you will suffer, it's normal. That's why we lost 3, drew 1 and won 1 against them at their place since 2012. IMO all blame is on Chelsea if they can't beat such team.

I don't believe in bogey teams, sorry. Newcastle is no exception.

[Jase 43,479]

As for the actual situation, don't tell me that only Mourinho gets the stick. And no it is not only the usual suspects that get criticized; Actually, two third of them are not criticized right now, namely Ramires and Cahill... Overall, people desperately hope Ivanovic gets his fifth yellow card to be suspended... People are sick of Fabregas... People are acknowledging that Matic is significantly below the standard he set when we bough him back... People are worried about Hazard being a ghost of himself... People are labelling Falcao the second Torres... People are acknowledging that Remy is not all that... People are frustrated regarding Costa's production... People are as well frustrated regarding Willian... And Oscar... People are claiming that Terry might be hindering us (regarding the proactive defense, at least)... etc... People are also aware that the squad is not good enough as well as our starting eleven. Yes, our squad is also criticized ; a lot. Yes, our players are individually criticized ; a lot.

There is a difference between saying a player isn't good for us or lacks the technical quality and criticizing the player for not putting in the effort on the pitch. Plenty of the players get stick for the former rather than the latter, which was my point when I said the players do not get criticized enough for the slump (if we can call it that) that we're in.

[Fulham Broadway 17,810]

And what those teams do to United, Arsenal, City and Liverpool ? Genuine question.

Let's say West Brom, team that raises their level every time we play them, apparently. XXI century 2002-2011 11 encounters, 11 wins in the row for Chelsea. This is our bogey team ? When you play with zero intensity and aggression and you're too soft you will suffer, it's normal. That's why we lost 3, drew 1 and won 1 against them at their place since 2012. IMO all blame is on Chelsea if they can't beat such team.

I don't believe in bogey teams, sorry. Newcastle is no exception.

"All blame on chelsea". Yup makes you wonder whats the fucking point in 'supporting' them dont it ?

[zolayes 14,489]

When looking for a culprit Jose needs to take a good look in the mirror. It was his rash sales, biased favoring, weird tactics, alienating players, no rotation that made our squad what it is now.

Jose is now facing consequences of team selections based on reputation and past accomplishments rather than current form and meritocracy. When players can be certain that no matter how they perform they will play in the next important game complacency sets in as we are seeing.

The opposite also applies when squad players giving 100% only to come to a realization that no matter how hard they try, how well they play they cannot displace underperforming untouchables they lose interest, focus and they start thinking of their way out.When I'm at it, how pointless most of his transfers have been?

I'm not sure board gave him awfull lot of money, but he got enough funds to play decent football and keep us in the top four. That's consistency, isn't it?

That stellar pressing football team used to play during good times demands two things: big squad and rotation. Former have been sistematically ruined later virtually non exsistent.

And now the reilable first 11 from last year quite often look like shadows of their former selves.

But than again I may be a Chelsea hater cause I refused to see last season wins and trophies as a justification for mediocre football, unimaginative tactics and everything mentioned above.

SUPERB .. I will bump this post at regular intervals :clap:

[CurlyHairLikeLuiz 1,625]

Better pull the plug fuck jose off and drop half the team for the squad players we have then after all that will solve our problems despite that no manager will ever want to come here as they know that the fans will tell him to fuck off in 3 years time if there is a bad run of games and then Roman obliges.

It's not like we're the only club having problems. Juve has 5 points from 6 games and they are certainly not calling for Allegri's head so put your fucking dummies back in.

Yeah they lost Vidal and Pirlo but they also beat Man City the other day - therefore I think it is a crisis of confidence in the whole team and we are just starting to get it back.

[Stats 7,230]

Better pull the plug fuck jose off and drop half the team for the squad players we have then after all that will solve our problems despite that no manager will ever want to come here as they know that the fans will tell him to fuck off in 3 years time if there is a bad run of games and then Roman obliges.

It's not like we're the only club having problems. Juve has 5 points from 6 games and they are certainly not calling for Allegri's head so put your fucking dummies back in.

Yeah they lost Vidal and Pirlo but they also beat Man City the other day - therefore I think it is a crisis of confidence in the whole team and we are just starting to get it back.

They lost key players. Tevez, Pirlo and Vidal. Marchisio has been injured for majority of the season. Yeah they should be doing better but I can understand the transition with them. Us on the other hand have not lost any key players. We still have the same team that won us the title last season. But there are so many issues wrong with us atm. Jose is not the sole problem but he is responsible for a lot of the problems.

[Jokesy 53]

Considering our present form...

Saying Jose is an idiot, stubborn etc is understandable or saying player x,y,z are shit, garbage etc is also understandable.

What I don't understand is that when Chelsea wins, this thread is like a graveyard, but the moment we lose/draw, all the "Chelsea fans" magically come out of the woods to express their displeasures with the manager/players.

Why is it that after a win, none of these "Chelsea fans" come out to praise the team/individual players/manager?

Win/lose it's always good to analyse what went good/bad in a game.

As for yesterday's match,

The negatives:

1. Many players were so bad individually that no amount of different starting lineups could have changed that.

2. The defensive midfield was so poor (just like most of our previous games) that the defense is almost every time exposed.

3. No leadership in the team. Poor defense organization.

4. Little or no passion before Ramires changed the game.

The positives:

1. We came back from two goals down. Even we could not do that last season against Newcastle or any other team.

2. We did not lose at Newcastle.

3. The subs were spot on.

4. Ramires played like he did during midweek... Fantastic!

[iseah100 5,612]

They lost key players. Tevez, Pirlo and Vidal. Marchisio has been injured for majority of the season. Yeah they should be doing better but I can understand the transition with them. Us on the other hand have not lost any key players. We still have the same team that won us the title last season. But there are so many issues wrong with us atm. Jose is not the sole problem but he is responsible for a lot of the problems.

They still have a world class team.

[Stats 7,230]

They still have a world class team.

You think so? I am not too sure. I think they have a good team but they lost 3 world class players and did not actually replace them with world class replacements.

[iseah100 5,612]

"If we play like we did in the second half, we can win every match this season,” added Mourinho. “If we play like we did in the first, we can lose every match. It is that simple.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/chelsea/11894613/Jose-Mourinho-returns-to-the-drawing-board-after-Chelseas-archetypal-game-of-two-halves.html

Absolutely agree.

Well, he needs to get the team to play more like the 2nd half consistently.

[Spike 12,049]

They still have a world class team.

Oh fuck no. Juve over performed last season and their CL final berth was an anomaly much like Chelsea's was in 2012. They have a good team but nothing near world class.

[xPetrCechx 13,598]

Well, he needs to get the team to play more like the 2nd half consistently.

Yeah It's his job...