The Mourinho Thread

[iceman 329]

yesterday i wanted a strong-willed victory. today Ranieri did it

[Blue Colored Sky 1,807]

5. I know what Jose means to the club and I don't want him gone. But no one can help it he himself wants to be sacked. What in hell is he doing?

Lol, brilliant !

Lots of funny stuff here and some quality posts, keep it going through tough times.

Mou says that we're unlucky, wait what ? That thing just starred me in the face. Wasn't he the last person ever who would blame luck ? Over the years he said that he doesn't believe in luck in football just 'unpredictability' of the game which he wants diminish to minimum by preparing team the best way for everything. That's his managerial blueprint. Something is going wrong here when he is more emotional (talking about things like luck, picking underperforming 'his' champions) and less pragmatic.

[Blue Armour 4,759]

Problem is, even if we sack him, he FUCKED our squad too much.

He sold Mata,KDB,Luiz,Luis,Schurrle and Cech. Our squad is too fucked up and he is the only reason. Selling those players because they didn't fit his philosophy was reasonable when he sold them but now when we have a larger picture to look at it just looks dumb. We could use all of these players now because most of our starting XI is out of form but we have no choice. Drop Hazard for Moses? Cesc for Mikel ? Our squad is buttfucked. The next manager that'll come in will have a lot of work to do.

Thank you Mourinho for last year but the shit you bring with you is not worth it.

Mourinho may be responsible for a lot of problems with our play and starting 11, but I disagree with the fact that he just 'fucked up' the squad.

Given his way, I'm pretty sure he would have held onto ALL those players you mentioned even if it was just to keep them as bench players.

The limited squad is down to the club. This isn't 2009 anymore when we could have players like Essien, Ballack, Deco, Belleti, Carvalho, or Bosingwa come off the bench to make a difference.

Mata and Luiz were sold to balance the books, and bring in key players like Fabregas and Costa, who did their job last season. KDB and Cech wanted to leave because they wouldn't be happy on the bench. Filipe Luis leaving was down to poor rotation, I agree.

[coolhead23 1,147]

6. About being fickle and all that .. listen, I come here to express my emotion. That's all. None of things being sayed affects the club one bit. As far as I'm concerned every body here wants the best for Chelsea in his/her own way.

I m sorry ... your Fickle!!!! ... stand in line

Well put up poster ...

[Barbara 15,149]

Mourinho may be responsible for a lot of problems with our play and starting 11, but I disagree with the fact that he just 'fucked up' the squad.

Given his way, I'm pretty sure he would have held onto ALL those players you mentioned even if it was just to keep them as bench players.

The limited squad is down to the club. This isn't 2009 anymore when we could have players like Essien, Ballack, Deco, Belleti, Carvalho, or Bosingwa come off the bench to make a difference.

Mata and Luiz were sold to balance the books, and bring in key players like Fabregas and Costa, who did their job last season. KDB and Cech wanted to leave because they wouldn't be happy on the bench. Filipe Luis leaving was down to poor rotation, I agree.

most of those players left because they wanted, not because we asked them to (the list in the post you quoted).

Some of them didn't fit the plan, as much as people love Mata, we had huge issues playing with him, just like we have huge issues in our midfield right now.

The KdB saga have been well reported throughout the whole thing and even Wolfsburg manager - when Kevin was at his best in the club - said that Kevin is the kind of player that works well when things work the way he wants them to work, when he's got the power. Sorry, I don't want a player like that in my team, even if he's Messi or Ronaldo.

All others left because they were rightfully benched for better players - except Luís. I continue to believe that's been the only mistake Mourinho's done with players leading them to leave the team and I think he's very close to lead Remy to do the same, which would account as another mistake.

The 'I told so' party looks happy now - some of them - which is obnoxious as hell. Sorry, but they haven't told anything so. The team is completely off track right now, there might be some dressing room problem but fact remains all of those players except the keepers haven't showed up. They aren't performing and they don't look like trying hard to change it. did they predict Hazard to play shit? Cesc to play shit? Azpilicueta to lose his solidness? Matic to look shaky?

It's so easy to say 'We've been saying since January how bad the team is' and since the end of January - when City had the same amount of points as us we won a EPL title. Things look terrible now, it's a really bad moment and I think our EPL season is already compromised and we may not play UCL the following season, but am I to suppose the 'I told so' party also predicted Azpilicueta, Matic, Hazard, JT - which were our most solid players to be playing so bad now? Or will they say that when the rest is so bad there's nothing they can do? If I were to mention their individual mistakes in just five matches this post would be much longer. Yes, Cesc had a bad patch, but wasn't the 'I told so' party convinced it was because he can't perform in second halves of seasons? When some people pointed other things around they came barking this half-arsed excused as if it was gospel. Well, why aren't they saying it now? Oh because it's now the first half of the season, so they decided to point out what few had refused to acknowledge: he's slow and doesn't offer the physicality in the midfield. It worked for many months, it could work again just like that. The thing is the system isn't working, no player is working, the manager isn't working, even the computer isn't working. It's a collective things (people) gone wrong thing and then we're in this form. But let's replace Cesc doesn't play in the second half for a new more fitting one: José Mourinho doesn't stand longer than 2 seasons, it's a 3-season curse (or inability, you decide the term).

Sorry, many points are valid, but there's no much self-entitlement, and big egos going on (which is SOOOOOO amusing when said people are slamming mourinho for having a big ego) that is hard to take some people seriously.

Also, if we're out of UCL for a season, if we don't win bullocks this season, it won't be the first, second or even tenth time in the history of this club. It's not the end of the world. We rose to the world's football elite very quickly and even if we momentarily fall off of it, it won't be the end of the world either. We can just easily climbed it up again. Ask anyone 12 years ago if they believed our rising to football elite would be as fast as it had been and they would laugh hard in your face and call you delusional. If we did it once, I don't see why we couldn't do it again from a much better 'starting' point right now, have things gone to the worst.

The overreaction is still overboard by how far some people are taking this. And if by losing the football elite badge would mean losing some sort of fans, I'm all for it and I'll embrace it with all my heart. With quantity there's always a drop in quality, so I wouldn't mind that at all.

Jose is making a lot of mistakes, he still has my support and it's his mess to fix. If he notices he can't fix it, he should be the one to step down. The players are so poor right now, that's almost second hand embarrassment, it's also their mess to fix and if they can't find it within themselves the right motivation to play and defend this shirt as they should (and as they have been doing) they can also write down their transfer request. All of them will go away at some point, but Chelsea will stay, even if it's not at the top and while I won't be too happy about it, I won't love the club any less. But I don't believe what's happening right now jeopardizes what we've accomplished at all. We may take a setback, but we'll be at the top again soon after it, if it even happens in the first place. So, the overreaction is really unnecessary. It has happened with the biggest historical teams in the world, what made people believe we were to be immune to that? And most of them came to the top again...

[Tomo 21,754]

Tel Aviv, Arsenal, Walsall and Newcastle are our next four games.

Hopefully we will win on Wednesday and I think we will beat Arsenal purely due to the mental block they have when facing us, Walsall we should win and Newcastle will be tough but law of averages owe us one up there.

If we can win these four which is defiantly doable then at least some form of order will be restored.

[kmk108 1,186]

Tel Aviv, Arsenal, Walsall and Newcastle are our next four games.

Hopefully we will win on Wednesday and I think we will beat Arsenal purely due to the mental block they have when facing us, Walsall we should win and Newcastle will be tough but law of averages owe us one up there.

If we can win these four which is defiantly doable then at least some form of order will be restored.

You could certainly look at it that way, or you could look at it like this:

Tel Aviv: Personally, I think we'll win, but if they still have an inflated sense of themselves, they could play flat and draw.

Arsenal: Haven't been impressive, but are better than we are now. They got a win over us and things have only gotten worse for us. I think we'll lose this.

Walsall: Is a should win, but if we run out a mainly sub/reserve team, I could see them playing up, us playing down and them shocking us. It's not like it hasn't happened to us before.

Newcastle: I'm always worried about playing up there and count it as at least a draw.

No doubt, this is an important run of matches, with a combination of a quality team, two teams we "should" beat, and a team that is tricky.

[Tomo 21,754]

You could certainly look at it that way, or you could look at it like this:

Tel Aviv: Personally, I think we'll win, but if they still have an inflated sense of themselves, they could play flat and draw.

Arsenal: Haven't been impressive, but are better than we are now. They got a win over us and things have only gotten worse for us. I think we'll lose this.

Walsall: Is a should win, but if we run out a mainly sub/reserve team, I could see them playing up, us playing down and them shocking us. It's not like it hasn't happened to us before.

Newcastle: I'm always worried about playing up there and count it as at least a draw.

No doubt, this is an important run of matches, with a combination of a quality team, two teams we "should" beat, and a team that is tricky.

Absolutely it could go very wrong but if i am told we will only win one of these four I would lump as much cash as I can on it being Arsenal.

Even in the Shield they barely created anything in a period were every one else is cutting us open at will, they still have a mental block against us and I still think we will beat them.

[Leif 6,006]

still, it's exciting to be such a fuck-up of a team this season. we haven't just gone down limply like United did, we're going down in style. it's quite beautiful and haunting. poetry will be written inspired by this season.

[Tomo 21,754]

still, it's exciting to be such a fuck-up of a team this season. we haven't just gone down limply like United did, we're going down in style. it's quite beautiful and haunting. poetry will be written inspired by this season.

In a weirdly perverse way I enjoy it when we have a bad spell.

That's when I tend to shout my support evenlouder than when we win, then I get United fans flocking my Facebook with the "you do realise your shit at the moment" type of response, which sums it up #notallonlysingwhentheywin.

[quickpassnmove 924]

In a weirdly perverse way I enjoy it when we have a bad spell.

That's when I tend to shout my support evenlouder than when we win, then I get United fans flocking my Facebook with the "you do realise your shit at the moment" type of response, which sums it up #notallonlysingwhentheywin.

Would be more enjoyable if DIFFERENT PLAYERS got into the starting lineup.

[yuvala 2,167]

You guys have to agree that it is only reasonable to keep him here ATLEAST untill the end of this season ? (and IMO next season also even if we achieve nothing.)

Do we really want this whole manager spinning door thing again ?
If we part company with Jose it should only happen when we have a top manager lined up 100%. Pep, Klopp, Simeone..

[Jase 43,479]

Would be more enjoyable if DIFFERENT PLAYERS got into the starting lineup.

But those DIFFERENT PLAYERS consist of players that many have moaned about (Mikel, Ramires etc) because they aren't that good. Apart from the defence and forward departments, we don't exactly have that many options in midfield. It really is a tricky situation.

[Blue Colored Sky 1,807]

Sorry, many points are valid, but there's no much self-entitlement, and big egos going on (which is SOOOOOO amusing when said people are slamming mourinho for having a big ego) that is hard to take some people seriously.

Also, if we're out of UCL for a season, if we don't win bullocks this season, it won't be the first, second or even tenth time in the history of this club. It's not the end of the world. We rose to the world's football elite very quickly and even if we momentarily fall off of it, it won't be the end of the world either. We can just easily climbed it up again. Ask anyone 12 years ago if they believed our rising to football elite would be as fast as it had been and they would laugh hard in your face and call you delusional. If we did it once, I don't see why we couldn't do it again from a much better 'starting' point right now, have things gone to the worst.

The overreaction is still overboard by how far some people are taking this. And if by losing the football elite badge would mean losing some sort of fans, I'm all for it and I'll embrace it with all my heart. With quantity there's always a drop in quality, so I wouldn't mind that at all.

What the fuck, weren't you the main person here that dismissed ALL THE THINGS being said here, all the wrong things that are visible in everything but (most) results, those ironic posts that everyone is spoiled here etc. and now you write, let's quote it here because it's funny, that "being out of the Champions League is not the end of the world", hmm, WE WERE CHAMPIONS, WE WERE WINNING, EVERYONE WHO HAS SOMETHING CRITICAL TO SAY IS SPOILED, everything was so, so fine in the second part of the season and now look, you suggest that the champions, with the same exact squad, which is not old btw, may be out of the champions league, I'm not the only one that sees big contradiction here ? Guess we weren't that fine last season after all, right ? (that's what you're saying indirectly) and all that ironic posts at that time, I can only say that you ridiculed yourself now, Barbara.

And last thing, no one is happy to come here and say "I told you so" because frankly me and lionsden and I'm sure most of the other "critics" were seen how inevitable it all was. I'm not THAT surprised to be fair. Maybe because I'm used to this I mean I'm no more frustrated watching this than most of the games from second part of last season (but gosh, I miss those times when Chelsea at least won with nothing performance)

We all support Chelsea through thick and thin and there's still enough time to turn this. As wise words say though "I know what Jose means to the club and I don't want him gone. But no one can help it he himself wants to be sacked. What in hell is he doing?"

[CurlyHairLikeLuiz 1,625]

5 games in and there's already those calling for Mou's head,.. So much plastic, maybe it would be good for the club to burn off some of the false fan base.

Heads up, it's quite plausible for City to drop 15 points. We dropped a lot. Also with Aguero out, arsenal coming up (afaik, the same useless Jose beat them 6-0 just two years ago) this is the perfect time to bounce back and I hope we seize the chance.

[quickpassnmove 924]

5 games in and there's already those calling for Mou's head,.. So much plastic, maybe it would be good for the club to burn off some of the false fan base.

Heads up, it's quite plausible for City to drop 15 points. We dropped a lot. Also with Aguero out, arsenal coming up (afaik, the same useless Jose beat them 6-0 just two years ago) this is the perfect time to bounce back and I hope we seize the chance.

yeah, after all, those who aren't with the church aren't spiritual and not quite human either.

[Jase 43,479]

Chelsea’s José Mourinho rages at Roberto Martínez over order of duties

Life is never dull being a Chelsea fan.

[kmk108 1,186]

This board gets funnier every week.

Calling for Mourinho's head isn't being plastic. It's being quick to judgment, but it's not plastic. Personally, I don't want a revolving door on the touchline, but there comes a time when you have to look at what is going on and figure out who is/are at fault. A lot of it is on the players on the pitch, but Mourinho is responsible for a lot of how the team plays/thinks. We've seen how these players can perform at their best, and it's a big coincidence that they all turn off at the exact same time. That's why I'm blaming Mourinho for a lot of this. BUT, for me, the sack isn't reasonable during the season, unless things get dire halfway through the season. Not out of Europe dire, relegation battle dire. That's why I don't think he should be sacked this season. But, if there's a manager out there that wants to come to Chelsea in the summer, and Jose looks like he doesn't want to stay/doesn't want to improve, we can't sit here and throw our full support to a manager that isn't doing his job.

Being mad/frustrated we're not winning isn't being plastic. It's expecting a top team to play like a top team. That's not unreasonable. Should we all just sit complacently while this team embarrasses themselves every weekend just because it's better than it used to be? Chelsea got to the level it is because of aspirations. Once you kill the aspirations, you lose everything you built.

[Billy. 2,742]

5 games in and there's already those calling for Mou's head,.. So much plastic, maybe it would be good for the club to burn off some of the false fan base.

Heads up, it's quite plausible for City to drop 15 points. We dropped a lot. Also with Aguero out, arsenal coming up (afaik, the same useless Jose beat them 6-0 just two years ago) this is the perfect time to bounce back and I hope we seize the chance.

Someone has gotta try score past them first.

[Jase 43,479]

Someone has gotta try score past them first.

Not necessary...