The Mourinho Thread

[Billy. 2,742]

Not necessary...

it is if we wanna catch them, the drawing games wont do us anygood. i can see us loosing at least 3 more games this season

[Jase 43,479]

it is if we wanna catch them, the drawing games wont do us anygood. i can see us loosing at least 3 more games this season

To be honest, we should forget about catching City and focus on getting into the top 4...for the time being anyway. Finishing outside the Champions League places would be really bad, arguably even worse than not winning the title.

[Billy. 2,742]

To be honest, we should forget about catching City and focus on getting into the top 4...for the time being anyway. Finishing outside the Champions League places would be really bad, arguably even worse than not winning the title.

Totally agree mate. City are out of our league this season. and thats Our own fault

[Billy. 2,742]

There are still 99 points on table you are saying he is lost? This is insane from u guys im sorry. Anyway another fact that luck is against us...

"At our tactical meeting, even the computer broke." - Mourinho.

Just being realistic mate. Yeah mathematically we can still do it, but we are poor and show no signs or improving anytime soon, and city look brilliant.

And at this point last season everybody was saying Chelsea have won the title already because of our good start and citys poor start. Whats the difference now?

[Jase 43,479]

Jose Mourinho upset Chelsea staff over Eva Carneiro treatment, is feuding with Diego Costa and the squad are unhappy: have Blues stars given up on their manager?

Be warned - the writer is Neil Ashton.

[Blue_Fox_ 2,086]

I wanted to read the article, then i saw it's the dailymail......

[Jase 43,479]

Don't eve read. It's ridiculous.

Then why post it?

[lionsden 4,689]

Little warming thing is that they don't have a week to prepare so there'll be no shit talking about 'positive reaction' from the players and how they worked the best ever !

One thing I noticed, isn't that Mourinho went more emotional ? I mean, when he praises his team after Chelsea - Liverpool (1:0 in COC semi-final) through the roof even though, let's face it, performance-wise it was average, we conceded several chances to them and scored only from set-piece, but Mourinho was so full of praise of the team like we smashed and outplayed them. When we win against any semi-decent opponent for Mourinho, at least what he says, is that everything is all right. He doesn't analyse performances anymore ? WTF ? He truly bielieves that they are really that good (even though they're not) because they're champions ?

Also he is super autocratic man, when he says that decision about team selection and tactics, it's not his decision but the whole team, assistans, analytics, well I don't believe it, it seems that it's 100% he makes decision and how dare anyone can have diffrent opinion ? His assistans seems scared of him. Don't believe there's much of discussion there.

You need diffrent perspectives to see things but it seems assistans just follow the leader.

It's shocking isn't it. How can you improve as a team when the manager considers every average/poor performance good enough. great longterm managers are never satisfied, they always strive to improve their teams performances, form, tactics, fitness etc. with jose, you get the feeling that he has very low standard and settles a lot.

We are paying him millions to analyse matches and the players in order to come up with a solution and to improve the team in all areas and at the moment he's failing miserably.

[couris 232]

Remember when DailyMail was saying that Maureen is going to sell Mata and Luiz? All the Maureen fan boys were telling us that all these rumors are to make him look bad. JM would never sell Mata and Luiz, they said......

[MrBlueGuy 1,552]

It is very clear to me, if we lose to Arsenal the fans have to actively demand him out and maybe Roman will act as I can see this getting worse. What if we end up winningless until mid October? which is a real possibility because we will play Mourinho's boogey side Newcastle after Arsenal, then Southampton which we barely got a draw at home last season when we were much better than we are now.

By then even if he is sacked the new manager come in will already have a huge task on his hand of getting us the 4th place.

[lionsden 4,689]

Now that teams recognise how weak we are defensively and how we have been struggling to create chances, any manager in charge of a decent team that can't set up his team to beat us right now must be absolutely inept. It's easy, attack us very aggressively from Ivanovic's side, closedown the space between midfield and attack. And just mark Hazard and Costa (easiest thing in the world to do) out of the game. Don't worry about our midfield since they are absolutely useless at the moment.

[kmk108 1,186]

Now that teams recognise how weak we are defensively and how we have been struggling to create chances, any manager in charge of a decent team that can't set up his team to beat us right now must be absolutely inept. It's easy, attack us very aggressively from Ivanovic's side, closedown the space between midfield and attack. And just mark Hazard and Costa (easiest thing in the world to do) out of the game. Don't worry about our midfield since they are absolutely useless at the moment.

I wouldn't say useless. They were very useful for Everton in Naismith's first goal.

[Iggy Doonican 4,187]

These articles about the mood within the camp are just baseless speculation. But there going to grow and grow in the coming weeks so in a nutshell ignore them especially if there from the Daily Heil.

[zolayes 14,489]

These articles about the mood within the camp are just baseless speculation. But there going to grow and grow in the coming weeks so in a nutshell ignore them especially if there from the Daily Heil.

have seen the gossip reports from Mail and Daily Star ,, The Star must be confident of what they printed or they would get sued , IT is not pretty reading

[Iggy Doonican 4,187]

have seen the gossip reports from Mail and Daily Star ,, The Star must be confident of what they printed or they would get sued , IT is not pretty reading

Yes but gossip is exactly what it says on the tin it's gossip. You can print any old bollocks and banner headline it as gossip and as long as you don't attribute a quote to a specific person then your fine.

[DYC. 7,542]

Chelsea’s José Mourinho rages at Roberto Martínez over order of duties

Life is never dull being a Chelsea fan.

“It is already late for us. The game was hard but also the game changed. We tried and dominated most of the game but a couple of situations we lost concentration and we conceded goals. We are getting punished for all our mistakes.”

Oh Ivanovic, you of all people.

Do the players (and the manager) tell these lies for the fans? As a way to make us feel better? But that would mean we're blind and stupid. Dominating matches, unfortunate, (imaginary) chances missed, mistakes being punished, fake results... If not for some fine goalkeeping, the club would be in even worse shape.

'We're playing awful football and we are devastated about it. We'll do everything it takes to improve and start winning again'. Maybe add an apology in there. Is that so hard?

Having your worst player at the moment address the media isn't very smart either btw.

[Amblève. 4,995]

still, it's exciting to be such a fuck-up of a team this season. we haven't just gone down limply like United did, we're going down in style. it's quite beautiful and haunting. poetry will be written inspired by this season.

Some perverse part of me wants to see how low we can actually fall

[Roquila 1,335]

Call me plastic all you want, I was here long before Mourinho and will be here long after him. The only ones ya'll can call plastic are some of our players.

[Henrique 9,133]

I was watching ESPN Brasil days ago when they were discussing what happened with the once amazing Luxemburgo, easily the best manager in Brazil in 90s and early 00s. Right now he is no more than ordinary manager with poor records in past 7 years.

What happened?

Any manager in the world is succesful as long as they can make the players do what the manager has in mind, so one guy in the program say one of the problems with Luxemburgo is the players of this generation just don't see him as great manager. Some players like Rivaldo, Roberto Carlos and Cafu saw Luxemburgo as the best manager they had work with, but a player like Neymar won't respect him as a great one.

Perhaps its the same thing with Mourinho. I don't believe a player like Hazard, Oscar, Fabregas, Diego Costa and other guys respect Jose Mourinho in same way Terry, Drogba and Lampard did.

While in England, Mourinho is like a God for the british press, outside UK his status is really different. Italian teams are well known for tactical discipline and pragmtaic football, so Mourinho had no difficult in imposing his idead in Internazionale. But lets look to our current squad, most of our players are from Brazil and Spain, two places where the words "arrogant" and "defensive" are more associated with Mourinho than "genius".

Even Hazard is a different kind of player. Remember that months ago Hazard said Robinho was one of his favorite players. I'm sure Hazard just doesn't see Mourinho as this football genius and in his ideal wolrd he just want a manager with a different approach.

The situationg only gets worse when the results are not coming. The players start to think even more the manager is not as good as he think he is, so it gets even more difficult to control the squad.

[lionsden 4,689]

I was watching ESPN Brasil days ago when they were discussing what happened with the once amazing Luxemburgo, easily the best manager in Brazil in 90s and early 00s. Right now he is no more than ordinary manager with poor records in past 7 years.

What happened?

Any manager in the world is succesful as long as they can make the players do what the manager has in mind, so one guy in the program say one of the problems with Luxemburgo is the players of this generation just don't see him as great manager. Some players like Rivaldo, Roberto Carlos and Cafu saw Luxemburgo as the best manager they had work with, but a player like Neymar won't respect him as a great one.

Perhaps its the same thing with Mourinho. I don't believe a player like Hazard, Oscar, Fabregas, Diego Costa and other guys respect Jose Mourinho in same way Terry, Drogba and Lampard did.

While in England, Mourinho is like a God for the british press, outside UK his status is really different. Italian teams are well known for tactical discipline and pragmtaic football, so Mourinho had no difficult in imposing his idead in Internazionale. But lets look to our current squad, most of our players are from Brazil and Spain, two places where the words "arrogant" and "defensive" are more associated with Mourinho than "genius".

Even Hazard is a different kind of player. Remember that months ago Hazard said Robinho was one of his favorite players. I'm sure Hazard just doesn't see Mourinho as this football genius and in his ideal wolrd he just want a manager with a different approach.

The situationg only gets worse when the results are not coming. The players start to think even more the manager is not as good as he think he is, so it gets even more difficult to control the squad.

Spot on. to add to that, managers (like players and most people in every works of life) lose their ability, focus, desire etc overtime. Some managers fail to adapt to the ever so changing style and demand of the modern game and are left behind as a result. Hence why the general consensus is that Jose's tactics are outdated, predictable and stale. Look at managers like Capello, Hiddink, Wenger, Van gaal et al. Amazing spells in the 90's and early 2000s but average ever since.

I don't know why it's so inconceivable to some, the concept of Jose losing his mojo, just like great managers before him. As much as people like to point to the fact that we won the league last season, His overall performance,in reality, was far from spectacular and we were able to win the league due to our rivals offering little to no challenge for the title at all.