CurlyHairLikeLuiz 1,625 Posted April 25, 2015 Share Posted April 25, 2015 I hope we put 5 past them and have 80% possession but go to a 5-5 draw as we have shabby defending just to shut up all the cunts on here that think Jose 'can't play attacking football', despite the entirety of the first half of the season and a bit of January arguing to the contrary.Then you can all find out what it's like to be an Arsenal fan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amblève. 4,995 Posted April 25, 2015 Share Posted April 25, 2015 I hope we put 5 past them and have 80% possession but go to a 5-5 draw as we have shabby defending just to shut up all the cunts on here that think Jose 'can't play attacking football', despite the entirety of the first half of the season and a bit of January arguing to the contrary.Then you can all find out what it's like to be an Arsenal fan.Why does playing more offensively always mean losing/drawing and being bad defensively on this forum? MrBlueGuy, The Chels, lionsden and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lionsden 4,689 Posted April 25, 2015 Share Posted April 25, 2015 Why does playing more offensively always mean losing/drawing and being bad defensively on this forum?It's ridiculous isn't it?.jose has managed to brainwash some fans into thinking this way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,754 Posted April 25, 2015 Share Posted April 25, 2015 It's ridiculous isn't it?.jose has managed to brainwash some fans into thinking this way.and Pellegrini, Rodgers, Wenger and the rest of purist fc have brainwashed other's in the complete opposite direction.Anyway we were playing great football for most of the five months before Christmas. darrus and stroey 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBlueGuy 1,552 Posted April 25, 2015 Share Posted April 25, 2015 and Pellegrini, Rodgers, Wenger and the rest of purist fc have brainwashed other's in the complete opposite direction.Anyway we were playing great football for most of the five months before Christmas.You need balance so Bayern atm is a good example. Contrary to popular beliefs they don't just pass around aimlessly anymore but actually play quite direct now when they want to/in big games like against Porto last Wed.It is annoying how people keep associating everything into either the bus parking class(Simeone, Jose) and purist but useless(Rodger,Pelle,Wenger...etc) while a top manager like Ancelotti/Pep can do both perfectly. lionsden 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lionsden 4,689 Posted April 25, 2015 Share Posted April 25, 2015 and Pellegrini, Rodgers, Wenger and the rest of purist fc have brainwashed other's in the complete opposite direction.Anyway we were playing great football for most of the five months before Christmas.What's the other direction? explain. The only way your comment makes any sense is if you make the assertion that these managers have made people believe that it's impossible to win matches against big teams playing defensive football which no one has ever said or insinuated.The pro park the bus crowd on the other hand try desperately to convince people that playing decent/attacking football against a big or semi decent team is suicidal and will lead to definite defeat hence negative football is the only viable option to get result in this type of matches. How often have we seen or heard comments like "you want us to play good/attacking football and lose". According to them pro active football equals automatic defeat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polo7 3,496 Posted April 25, 2015 Share Posted April 25, 2015 You need balance so Bayern atm is a good example. Contrary to popular beliefs they don't just pass around aimlessly anymore but actually play quite direct now when they want to/in big games like against Porto last Wed.It is annoying how people keep associating everything into either the bus parking class(Simeone, Jose) and purist but useless(Rodger,Pelle,Wenger...etc) while a top manager like Ancelotti/Pep can do both perfectly.Ancelotti and Pep? Lol. We have seen Madrid play amazing football this year have we? And pep is always going for the easier option. Ready made teams, shame he got smacked a few weeks ago. HD3D 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Colored Sky 1,807 Posted April 25, 2015 Share Posted April 25, 2015 What's the other direction? explain. The only way your comment makes any sense is if you make the assertion that these managers have made people believe that it's impossible to win matches against big teams playing defensive football which no one has ever said or insinuated.The pro park the bus crowd on the other hand try desperately to convince people that playing decent/attacking football against a big or semi decent team is suicidal and will lead to definite defeat hence negative football is the only viable option to get result in this type of matches. How often have we seen or heard comments like "you want us to play good/attacking football and lose". According to them pro active football equals automatic defeat.Wenger I think made this thinking. But what every manager including Wenger are aiming for is playing like Arsenal have played so far, 8 winning streak and good on the eye too. If he was less stubborn though.Mourinho's only idea of containing attacking teams is parking the bus - that's what I can't simply understand. Every other team do this by PRESSING while Chelsea have to make the game unwatchable. So far our pressing is poor and disorganised and that's the basic of the basics, the fundament, the platform. Probably the biggest charge on Mourinho is that he didn't learn players a pressing system over those 2 years. When some team surprises people and is able to contain the big team in modern football is always by brilliant pressing system.Currently our players press individually and not as collective. It doesn't work. That's the main thing we have to improve to get closer to elite. The Chels 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rom2013 446 Posted April 25, 2015 Share Posted April 25, 2015 You need balance so Bayern atm is a good example. Contrary to popular beliefs they don't just pass around aimlessly anymore but actually play quite direct now when they want to/in big games like against Porto last Wed.It is annoying how people keep associating everything into either the bus parking class(Simeone, Jose) and purist but useless(Rodger,Pelle,Wenger...etc) while a top manager like Ancelotti/Pep can do both perfectly.LOL, calling Bayern a balanced team... a team that lost 4-0 at home against Real Madrid, that lost with another 4 to WOlfsburg and was humilliated against Porto. Bayern was a balanced team 3 years ago, you are right... today,,,About Madrid, you just have to look at Madrid with Mourinho, with that team it's not that hard to play attacking football and win 5-0 or 6-0 against anyone. It's more difficult to win against Barcelona... but humilliate other teams it's really easy.FOr example in the 2 first seasons of Mouriunho in Madrid here you have some of the games where Madrid scored 4 or more goals and won eith a difference of at least 3 goals.2010/2011Real Madrid 6-1 DeportivoMalaga 1-4 Real MadridReal Madrid 6-1 SantanderReal Madrid 5-1 Real MurciaReal Madrid 5-1 AthleticAjax 0-4 Real MadridReal Madrid 4-0 AuxerreReal Madrid 8-0 LevanteReal Madrid 4-1 Real SociedadReal Madrid 7-0 MálagaReal Madrid 4-0 TottenhamValencia 3-6 Real MadridSevilla 2-6 Real Madrid Real Madrid 4-0 GetafeReal Madrid 8-1 Almeria 2011/2012Zaragoza 0-6 Real MadridReal Madrid 6-2 Rayo VallecanoEspanyol 0-4 Real MadridReal Madrid 4-1 BetisReal Madrid 4-0 LyonMalaga 0-4 Real MadridReal Madrid 7-1 OsasunaReal Madrid 6-2 Dinamo de ZagrebReal Madrid 4-1 Atletico de MadridSevilla 2-6 Real MadridReal Madrid 5-1 PonferrarinaReal Madrid 4-1 AthleticReal Madrid 4-0 Racing SantanderReal Madrid 5-1 EspanyolOsasuna 1-5 Real MadridReal Madrid 5-2 ApoelAtletico de Madrid 1-4 Real MadridReal Madrid 4-1 Mallorca Scary. stroey 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laugh1ngMan 393 Posted April 25, 2015 Share Posted April 25, 2015 LOL, Mou might have trouble keeping a 1-0 lead this season but Pellegrini can't keep a 2-0 lead to save his life darrus 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! iseah100 5,612 Posted April 25, 2015 Popular Post! Share Posted April 25, 2015 I hope we win 1-0 tomorrow with 19% possession just to make Arsenal, other opposition fans, and people on here even angrier. Roquila, Rambo, Special and 4 others 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 19,377 Posted April 25, 2015 Share Posted April 25, 2015 I hope we win 1-0 tomorrow with 19% possession just to make Arsenal, other opposition fans, and people on here even angrier.That lone goal being from Cesc in stoppage time. Blue-in-me-Veins and darrus 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue-in-me-Veins 4,067 Posted April 25, 2015 Share Posted April 25, 2015 I hope we win 1-0 tomorrow with 19% possession just to make Arsenal, other opposition fans, and people on here even angrier.That lone goal being from Cesc in stoppage time. And because the goal is scored late and has a major Title implication (obviously winning it sooner),, he celebrates the goal before remembering he didn't want to celebrate in front of his former club. lmaoooo Scenes. Should have heard the Man u fans after Welbeck celebrated his goal in the FA Cup Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iggy Doonican 4,187 Posted April 26, 2015 Share Posted April 26, 2015 LOL, calling Bayern a balanced team... a team that lost 4-0 at home against Real Madrid, that lost with another 4 to WOlfsburg and was humilliated against Porto. Bayern was a balanced team 3 years ago, you are right... today,,,About Madrid, you just have to look at Madrid with Mourinho, with that team it's not that hard to play attacking football and win 5-0 or 6-0 against anyone. It's more difficult to win against Barcelona... but humilliate other teams it's really easy.FOr example in the 2 first seasons of Mouriunho in Madrid here you have some of the games where Madrid scored 4 or more goals and won eith a difference of at least 3 goals.2010/2011Real Madrid 6-1 DeportivoMalaga 1-4 Real MadridReal Madrid 6-1 SantanderReal Madrid 5-1 Real MurciaReal Madrid 5-1 AthleticAjax 0-4 Real MadridReal Madrid 4-0 AuxerreReal Madrid 8-0 LevanteReal Madrid 4-1 Real SociedadReal Madrid 7-0 MálagaReal Madrid 4-0 TottenhamValencia 3-6 Real MadridSevilla 2-6 Real Madrid Real Madrid 4-0 GetafeReal Madrid 8-1 Almeria 2011/2012Zaragoza 0-6 Real MadridReal Madrid 6-2 Rayo VallecanoEspanyol 0-4 Real MadridReal Madrid 4-1 BetisReal Madrid 4-0 LyonMalaga 0-4 Real MadridReal Madrid 7-1 OsasunaReal Madrid 6-2 Dinamo de ZagrebReal Madrid 4-1 Atletico de MadridSevilla 2-6 Real MadridReal Madrid 5-1 PonferrarinaReal Madrid 4-1 AthleticReal Madrid 4-0 Racing SantanderReal Madrid 5-1 EspanyolOsasuna 1-5 Real MadridReal Madrid 5-2 ApoelAtletico de Madrid 1-4 Real MadridReal Madrid 4-1 Mallorca Scary.What would be scarier if Real didn't thrash the mighty Ponferrarina (Who?) Athletic (not a clue) Real Murcia (no idea) Almeria (is that a make of car?) Racing Santander (team of bankers?) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chels 2,502 Posted April 26, 2015 Share Posted April 26, 2015 It is annoying how people keep associating everything into either the bus parking class(Simeone, Jose) and purist but useless(Rodger,Pelle,Wenger...etc) while a top manager like Ancelotti/Pep can do both perfectly.Ancelotti is a better and more balanced manager than Mourinho and Simeone just because his vastly superior Real side beat Atleti for the first time in 8 attempts this season and is through to the CL SFs while the other two aren't?I understand why people rate Pep higher than the others but Ancelotti's league record speaks for itself. Tomo, Polo7, Blue-in-me-Veins and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rom2013 446 Posted April 26, 2015 Share Posted April 26, 2015 What would be scarier if Real didn't thrash the mighty Ponferrarina (Who?) Athletic (not a clue) Real Murcia (no idea) Almeria (is that a make of car?) Racing Santander (team of bankers?) That results are not normal for a big team, and only teams like Real Madrid, Barcelona can do something lie that. Real Madrid because they spent more than 500M€ in players, Barcelona because they had 3 or 4 incredible players in the cantera like Messi, Xavi and Iniesta and they spent millions in the last years with 100M€ for Neymar, 80M€ for Suarez, 80M€ for Ibra, etc.Chelsea never had something like that in the last 12 years, Arsenal also, Man United even with ROnaldo and ROoney coudn't do that.That's not normal and you need a ton of money to have a team like that.ANd yes... having Bale, Ronaldo, James, Isco, Benzema, Jesé, Modric, Kroos, or having Ozil, Di Maria, Ronaldo, Modric, or Messi, Xavi, Iniesta, Neymar, Suarez, garantees you a standard of football that you can'r reach without those players.It's the reality. Stop dreamming about Madrid when we spend half the money they spend. kellzfresh, OhForAGreavsie and Thendo 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iggy Doonican 4,187 Posted April 26, 2015 Share Posted April 26, 2015 That results are not normal for a big team, and only teams like Real Madrid, Barcelona can do something lie that. Real Madrid because they spent more than 500M€ in players, Barcelona because they had 3 or 4 incredible players in the cantera like Messi, Xavi and Iniesta and they spent millions in the last years with 100M€ for Neymar, 80M€ for Suarez, 80M€ for Ibra, etc.Chelsea never had something like that in the last 12 years, Arsenal also, Man United even with ROnaldo and ROoney coudn't do that.That's not normal and you need a ton of money to have a team like that.ANd yes... having Bale, Ronaldo, James, Isco, Benzema, Jesé, Modric, Kroos, or having Ozil, Di Maria, Ronaldo, Modric, or Messi, Xavi, Iniesta, Neymar, Suarez, garantees you a standard of football that you can'r reach without those players.It's the reality. Stop dreamming about Madrid when we spend half the money they spend.I couldn't give a fuck about Real squire. The mighty Real Murcia now that's a different matter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLion. 21,491 Posted April 26, 2015 Share Posted April 26, 2015 What would be scarier if Real didn't thrash the mighty Ponferrarina (Who?) Athletic (not a clue) Real Murcia (no idea) Almeria (is that a make of car?) Racing Santander (team of bankers?) What's that got to do with the price of cheese? You can only beat what's put out in front of you. I'd be more concerned if he was only beating teams of that ilk by the odd goal in three, but instead his sides show they can absolutely ravage sides when in the mood (Swansea home and away this season are perfect examples). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OhForAGreavsie 6,128 Posted April 26, 2015 Share Posted April 26, 2015 That results are not normal for a big team, and only teams like Real Madrid, Barcelona can do something lie that. Real Madrid because they spent more than 500M€ in players, Barcelona because they had 3 or 4 incredible players in the cantera like Messi, Xavi and Iniesta and they spent millions in the last years with 100M€ for Neymar, 80M€ for Suarez, 80M€ for Ibra, etc.Chelsea never had something like that in the last 12 years, Arsenal also, Man United even with ROnaldo and ROoney coudn't do that.That's not normal and you need a ton of money to have a team like that.ANd yes... having Bale, Ronaldo, James, Isco, Benzema, Jesé, Modric, Kroos, or having Ozil, Di Maria, Ronaldo, Modric, or Messi, Xavi, Iniesta, Neymar, Suarez, garantees you a standard of football that you can'r reach without those players.It's the reality. Stop dreamming about Madrid when we spend half the money they spend.Well said, and it's not just the money. As we all know, these clubs have an attraction that others can't match.While Roman was once free to pay whatever fees and salaries he wanted, any player with the opportunity to join one of the Spanish giants would virtually always take it. Throw in a cultural preference for Spain among the best Latin players, FFP, the once very favourable Spanish tax system, plus UK work permit regulations and our clubs are not competing on a level playing field.It is a simple truth that truly great teams are based on the talents of great players. When the majority of such players prefer to play for the same sides, the notion that other clubs can outmatch them over a sustained period is unrealistic. kellzfresh 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kellzfresh 7,229 Posted April 26, 2015 Share Posted April 26, 2015 It's not just the money spent, it's the quality of players in the starting line-up and on the bench. Styles 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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