Luis Suarez

[Cosmin 2,484]

Yes, Roy Keane was also mental and played over 10 years for United always giving them a competitive edge.

So, yes, Suarez is a dirty player; he can be a dirty player for us or against us. I'm sure our defenders would rather have him on their side.

So you're saying that we should be ok with signing a cunt like Suarez just because another player who was a cunt succesfully played over 10 years for Manchester United. I don't mean to offend you or anything, but this argument seems a little childish to me.

It's like saying that we should be praying for the referees to make big mistakes in our favour just because they made big mistakes in another teams favour, causing them to succeed. It's better to have them on our side, right?

Sure, this opinion is ok as long as you don't give a shit about honor and dignity and as long as you only want to win the games, no matter how. But you need to understand that (apparently) most of us care about other things too.

[robsblubot 3,595]

So you're saying that we should be ok with signing a cunt like Suarez just because another player who was a cunt succesfully played over 10 years for Manchester United. I don't mean to offend you or anything, but this argument seems a little childish to me.

It's like saying that we should be praying for the referees to make big mistakes in our favour just because they made big mistakes in another teams favour, causing them to succeed. It's better to have them on our side, right?

Sure, this opinion is ok as long as you don't give a shit about honor and dignity and as long as you only want to win the games, no matter how. But you need to understand that (apparently) most of us care about other things too.

Honor and dignity in football ... Who's being childish now?

This is a game nothing more nothing less. Professionalism is the only quality you really can demand and even then you find many footballers who don't even give you that.

Can we criticize Suarez at the same time we praise John Terry? I at least try to be consistent, and not a hypocrite, by praising both excellent players-the only thing about these two guys I really care about.

[Heisenberg 1,824]

Honor and dignity in football ... Who's being childish now?

This is a game nothing more nothing less. Professionalism is the only quality you really can demand and even then you find many footballers who don't even give you that.

Can we criticize Suarez at the same time we praise John Terry? I at least try to be consistent, and not a hypocrite, by praising both excellent players-the only thing about these two guys I really care about.

John Terry and Suarez are both top players, and are both cunts.The difference is that Terry is a cunt off the pitch, non-related to football, and Suarez on the pitch.

[borriske 330]

Honor and dignity in football ... Who's being childish now?

This is a game nothing more nothing less. Professionalism is the only quality you really can demand and even then you find many footballers who don't even give you that.

Can we criticize Suarez at the same time we praise John Terry? I at least try to be consistent, and not a hypocrite, by praising both excellent players-the only thing about these two guys I really care about.

JT has made mistakes, obviously, but he's been nothing but loyal to the club. The fans have always stood by him and he has repaid it by giving it his all. He's Blue, he's family.

Now look at Suarez, whose exploits are on a level never seen before. Like us, liverpool supporters have more or less always defended him, and how does he repay them?

Also, you talk about professionalism. Risking to be sent of and/or suspended almost every game by pulling some c*ntish moves again and again is not what i call professional.

[borriske 330]

Reading my last post again, it seems more agressive than i intended to, sorry for that. I understand where your coming from. Indeed, he's top quality and we shouldn't be too hypocritical, but I reaaaaaaaally don't want him at this club.

[robsblubot 3,595]

John Terry and Suarez are both top players, and are both cunts.The difference is that Terry is a cunt off the pitch, non-related to football, and Suarez on the pitch.

I guess we all just see the "win at all costs" attitude differently. Incidentally JT did fuck up when we needed him most.

Perhaps I've met too many players in RL; perhaps I've seen the strings and now the magic is gone.

[Heisenberg 1,824]

I guess we all just see the "win at all costs" attitude differently. Incidentally JT did fuck up when we needed him most.

Perhaps I've met too many players in RL; perhaps I've seen the strings and now the magic is gone.

Win at all costs isnt by playing dirty players, win at all costs is to defend all the match like we did against Barcelona, or to get a red card so you wont concede, even talking with ref, shouting at players, wasting time is normal and that is the winning at all costs, not eating players, being banned for games, racist comments, these are not tolerated at any club.We are humans.

[Cosmin 2,484]

Honor and dignity in football ... Who's being childish now?

This is a game nothing more nothing less. Professionalism is the only quality you really can demand and even then you find many footballers who don't even give you that.

Can we criticize Suarez at the same time we praise John Terry? I at least try to be consistent, and not a hypocrite, by praising both excellent players-the only thing about these two guys I really care about.

I never said anything about John Terry in this conversation. You can't know who praises him and who doesn't. But, funnily, you bring up his name and make it look like I am the one who did. Anyway, I'll still answer to that.

John Terry and Suarez can't even be compared. JT has screwed up big time ONCE on the pitch and he payed for it (that's if you're talking about the racism incident). If you're talking about the missed penalty, then I have nothing to say because that's something that can happen to everyone. That's something that happened to a lot of huge players in this sport's history. Besides that racism incident, he proved that he's a great captain during so many years. He gave his best for this club and helped us win a lot of trophies. Of course we respect him. How many times has Suarez screwed up? How many trophies has Suarez helped Liverpool win? Suarez was shooting balls at his team mates like the spoiled little prick that he is. That's the kind of player that Suarez is for a team like Liverpool. And he's not even that young anymore.

And still, even if you were right about JT being just like Suarez, being consistent regarding bad decisions isn't something to be proud of.

Yes, I still think that honor and dignity are values that matter in football. If it wasn't like that, we should encourage our players to dive, cheat, break opponents legs, swear at the referees, play dirtier than Stoke's players on a late Monday night and so on. If these are right things to you, just because they can help you win games, then I have nothing to say anymore.

[Jusek 2,031]

He will always walk alone.

[Hutcho 8,443]

That has got to be one of the greatest celebrations for his brief look of "Dafaq!"... Classic.

[robsblubot 3,595]

I never said anything about John Terry in this conversation. You can't know who praises him and who doesn't. But, funnily, you bring up his name and make it look like I am the one who did. Anyway, I'll still answer to that.

John Terry and Suarez can't even be compared. JT has screwed up big time ONCE on the pitch and he payed for it (that's if you're talking about the racism incident). If you're talking about the missed penalty, then I have nothing to say because that's something that can happen to everyone. That's something that happened to a lot of huge players in this sport's history. Besides that racism incident, he proved that he's a great captain during so many years. He gave his best for this club and helped us win a lot of trophies. Of course we respect him. How many times has Suarez screwed up? How many trophies has Suarez helped Liverpool win? Suarez was shooting balls at his team mates like the spoiled little prick that he is. That's the kind of player that Suarez is for a team like Liverpool. And he's not even that young anymore.

And still, even if you were right about JT being just like Suarez, being consistent regarding bad decisions isn't something to be proud of.

Yes, I still think that honor and dignity are values that matter in football. If it wasn't like that, we should encourage our players to dive, cheat, break opponents legs, swear at the referees, play dirtier than Stoke's players on a late Monday night and so on. If these are right things to you, just because they can help you win games, then I have nothing to say anymore.

Fair enough... just different opinions. Just think ppl overvalue honor and dignity and undervalue what really counts on the pitch: quality.

however, I was talking about picking up a ridiculous red card for kicking a player in the semis of the CL and then missing the final.

[Tricky 301]

JT has made mistakes, obviously, but he's been nothing but loyal to the club. The fans have always stood by him and he has repaid it by giving it his all. He's Blue, he's family.

Now look at Suarez, whose exploits are on a level never seen before. Like us, liverpool supporters have more or less always defended him, and how does he repay them?

Also, you talk about professionalism. Risking to be sent of and/or suspended almost every game by pulling some c*ntish moves again and again is not what i call professional.

You say that, yet he held us to ransom a few years back and flirted with a move to city.... For the dollar bills obviously.

Only guy I believe is 100% is Lampard, behaved impeccable this year despite the crap the club put him thro

[CHOULO19 24,332]

If Arsenal manage to get him.. :banghead: :banghead:

It will mean absolutely nothing for us. Arsenal are not tittle challengers with or without Suarez. The best they can do is keep close-is to the top and finish 3rd but the odds of them winning the league next year are almost negligible.

[Muzchap 8,966]

He will always walk alone.

This is the post of the thread

[robsblubot 3,595]

It will mean absolutely nothing for us. Arsenal are not tittle challengers with or without Suarez. The best they can do is keep close-is to the top and finish 3rd but the odds of them winning the league next year are almost negligible.

You must be kidding right?! At the very least they might finish ahead of us.

They've finished 2 points behind us with Giroud...

Also, what makes you believe we are title contenders? We've got 2 mid-table strikers to use, while all our opponents have better, or a lot better; after all we've been chasing their second-choice striker. Our team is essentially the same as last year, so now Mourinho will do magic and make the same roster (plus a few youngsters) perform a lot better!? This is key here: a little better won't do, it's gotta be A LOT better with the same players.

We should start a prediction thread. Mine would be that without further acquisitions, we'd be fighting for CL spot again and without a shot at CL glory.

[The Skipper 20,609]

You must be kidding right?! At the very least they might finish ahead of us.

They've finished 2 points behind us with Giroud...

Also, what makes you believe we are title contenders? We've got 2 mid-table strikers to use, while all our opponents have better, or a lot better; after all we've been chasing their second-choice striker. Our team is essentially the same as last year, so now Mourinho will do magic and make the same roster (plus a few youngsters) perform a lot better!? This is key here: a little better won't do, it's gotta be A LOT better with the same players.

We should start a prediction thread. Mine would be that without further acquisitions, we'd be fighting for CL spot again and without a shot at CL glory.

You're completely forgetting the fact that Arsenal didn't have anywhere near the amount of games we had last season. We had so many mid week games whilst because they also dropped out of a handful of competitions very early they could prepare for matches a lot better than we did. The fact that they still couldn't finish above us is very poor given the circumstances.

Yeah our first team XI hasn't really been added to but you're also forgetting that whilst we've made additions in Lukaku, De Bruyne, Van Ginkel, Schurrle and Schwarzer, even Essien and potentially Chalobah, whilst also getting Mourinho back which will make a huge difference, the only player Arsenal has signed so far is an u20 French striker. Our squad is so much better compared to last season.

Your view is very naive if you think we'll struggle to get top 4 like last season IMO. We're in a far better position than Arsenal right now.

[Duppy Conqueror 1,557]

So on one side we Don't want him because he's a cunt and the opposition counters with we have already got cunts playing for us we should get another.

Jose has shown no indication we want him and in fact said it's Rooney or no one.so enjoy wasting your time commenting on this thread for the next 5 weeks or so.

[CHOULO19 24,332]

You must be kidding right?! At the very least they might finish ahead of us.

They've finished 2 points behind us with Giroud...

Also, what makes you believe we are title contenders? We've got 2 mid-table strikers to use, while all our opponents have better, or a lot better; after all we've been chasing their second-choice striker. Our team is essentially the same as last year, so now Mourinho will do magic and make the same roster (plus a few youngsters) perform a lot better!? This is key here: a little better won't do, it's gotta be A LOT better with the same players.

We should start a prediction thread. Mine would be that without further acquisitions, we'd be fighting for CL spot again and without a shot at CL glory.

The reason Arsenal finished near us last season is the insane amount of games we played with next to no squad depth. Not to mention the in stability and the general atmosphere around the club. Basically what Skipper said:

You're completely forgetting the fact that Arsenal didn't have anywhere near the amount of games we had last season. We had so many mid week games whilst because they also dropped out of a handful of competitions very early they could prepare for matches a lot better than we did. The fact that they still couldn't finish above us is very poor given the circumstances.

Yeah our first team XI hasn't really been added to but you're also forgetting that whilst we've made additions in Lukaku, De Bruyne, Van Ginkel, Schurrle and Schwarzer, even Essien and potentially Chalobah, whilst also getting Mourinho back which will make a huge difference, the only player Arsenal has signed so far is an u20 French striker. Our squad is so much better compared to last season.

Your view is very naive if you think we'll struggle to get top 4 like last season IMO. We're in a far better position than Arsenal right now.

[robsblubot 3,595]

The reason Arsenal finished near us last season is the insane amount of games we played with next to no squad depth. Not to mention the in stability and the general atmosphere around the club. Basically what Skipper said:

It's certainly a theory... a plausible explanation for sure, and good for you both if you believe that. I don't buy it though.

To me our opponents, esp City (United are looking for starting XI signings still) have better starting XI and we are going to struggle against them.

And concerning Arsenal, if they do get Suarez they will be very close to title contenders.

We might not need to find out, whether just more strength in depth would do the trick, since apparently we aren't quite done in the transfer window.

[NishC300 1,865]

Wenger is interested in Suarez. It will not go any further than that.