Cesc Fàbregas

[OneMoSalah 8,883]

You can call it bitter but so far they been right. Goes missing second half and dissappear in big games.

Next time instead of getting excited for how well we start I will just wait to see how well we finish.

Goes missing but is probably the one player who probably touches the ball the most in our team, plays the most passes and possibly creates the most chances in a match? Doesn't add up....

In big games he doesn't exactly go missing the whole time, our approach changes and like we seen after we played City and United earlier this season we sit deeper, play compact and players don't make the same runs or play with that intent on getting the second goal and ultimately we decide to not control the game, looking to pick them off on counter. Other players who make Fabregas' life easier by making runs or coming to get the ball and giving him an opportunity to link with them also go missing.

[didierforever 7,349]

so we are all ungrateful for calling it as it is? :lol:

if we win PL, i will be grateful that cesc helped us win it just like hazard, costa, matic and the rest, but for god's sake, be honest to yourself. if he has a SHIT performance then call it SHIT. "people did not show heart, the team did not show heart". what a load of CRAP. costa showed it, the guy ran himself to the ground even though he did not do much else. willian tried. our defence and GK did. matic looked knackered, dont know if he was fit. it was just cesc and rambo who were strolling on the park. how many times did i see cesc simply walking around. nothing else but walking. 2 of the 3 midfielders who were supposed to control the mid and match did not seem to give a FUCK. yes, we should be grateful for that and be called bandwagoners. why dont people just be honest with themselves instead of giving stupid and idiotic excuses.

[Magic Lamps 11,692]

Yup. was shit today once again. and yes, still a great player. If he is a big game choker or simply not fitted to the approach - I leave that to you. But I don't care. He has done his job of flat-track bullying us towards the league title which is exactly what he was bought for. We are shit at parking the bus anyway with Fabregas or without him.The way we defend leaving holes everyhwere, defenders running into each others at corners... we could as well have a backline of mata, giovinco and mauri. FAbregas is surely not to blame.The very great players though don't need such excuses. They perform even when the game is not made for them, they make them game theirs.

[Blue Colored Sky 1,807]

He was strolling like if he had a big party with Messi the last couple of days.

He has certain world-class skillset but he isn't world-class individual who can handle himself very well and deal with any pressing he faces. That's only Hazard territory. And our style of play or should I say this chaotic thing we try to play against good teams demands players to be great individuals.

But what can we do ? Mourinho already tried to sign Tiago in the summer for this pivot so he saw the problem in advance. We will sign another great player for the midfield, I can guarantee you that. We certainly will get to the point, when Mourinho moulds his whole squad, that we can drop Fabregas easily in the big match.

[Oscar 441]

Cesc is still the best cm in the epl outside of City...

An upgrade from anything that was on Chelsea the past few seasons as well.

Maybe, not world class as people think he is, but still the best or second best in the epl.

[supporter 3,088]

I think the problem is not Fabregas, the problem is that Fabregas is alone in the creation of football and is the only engine that we have for distribution of the ball.

Oscar does not have the level to play with us. His transfer would be the best option for us.

But Fabregas is nonnegotiable. But the problem is we can not let Fabregas alone in midfield as if Fabregas could do everything.

Willian or Ramires are players more to work than to create. Matic is perfect but he has other functions. Diego Costa, Hazard or Square are individualistic players. So we have to give support to Fabregas with another player in midfield who can help him. In my opinion you maybe Nathan Ake or Ruben Loftus-Cheek.

We will win the Premier League almost sure. So I think it's time to bet heavily on them. Ake or
Loftus-Cheek are prepared and now we do not have a huge responsibility to compete in the Champions League.

Nathan Ake or Ruben Loftus-Cheek may be the perfect solution to help Fabregas in midfield and speed up the movement of the ball.

For next year maybe we have to signing Pogba or Koke (I prefer Koke), but now we have to think about what we have at home.

Fabregas is not a problem, Fabregas is the solution.

Regards to ALL.

[Fernando 6,585]

I think the problem is not Fabregas, the problem is that Fabregas is alone in the creation of football and is the only engine that we have for distribution of the ball.

Oscar does not have the level to play with us. His transfer would be the best option for us.

But Fabregas is nonnegotiable. But the problem is we can not let Fabregas alone in midfield as if Fabregas could do everything.

Willian or Ramires are players more to work than to create. Matic is perfect but he has other functions. Diego Costa, Hazard or Square are individualistic players. So we have to give support to Fabregas with another player in midfield who can help him. In my opinion you maybe Nathan Ake or Ruben Loftus-Cheek.

We will win the Premier League almost sure. So I think it's time to bet heavily on them. Ake or

Loftus-Cheek are prepared and now we do not have a huge responsibility to compete in the Champions League.

Nathan Ake or Ruben Loftus-Cheek may be the perfect solution to help Fabregas in midfield and speed up the movement of the ball.

For next year maybe we have to signing Pogba or Koke (I prefer Koke), but now we have to think about what we have at home.

Fabregas is not a problem, Fabregas is the solution.

Regards to ALL.

If we can sell Oscar and Ramires and get better replacement then that should be good.

Pogba I think is a no go. His price is just ridiculous, unless juventus want Oscar then maybe we can do something.

Koke would be awesome but I don't think he wants to come. Didn't he signed a new contract?

So those two options are hard.

It might just be another minimal upgrade like with Cuadradro....

[MrBlueGuy 1,552]

If we can sell Oscar and Ramires and get better replacement then that should be good.

Pogba I think is a no go. His price is just ridiculous, unless juventus want Oscar then maybe we can do something.

Koke would be awesome but I don't think he wants to come. Didn't he signed a new contract?

So those two options are hard.

It might just be another minimal upgrade like with Cuadradro....

Vidal can play as a CAM fine too but recently injury has made him not being able to be at his peak and rumor is that he will never be fully healed, could maybe sign Isco if we offer 40m for him and he is being benched now Modric and when James is back. Pjanic is another option but imo he looks like another Oscar and not that much better,

That is about it for pure CAM I can think of, of course Koke is the perfect choice but like you said he doesn't want to leave.

[BlueLyon 9,359]

This guy is not a winner. Simple as that.

[supporter 3,088]

If we can sell Oscar and Ramires and get better replacement then that should be good.

Pogba I think is a no go. His price is just ridiculous, unless juventus want Oscar then maybe we can do something.

Koke would be awesome but I don't think he wants to come. Didn't he signed a new contract?

So those two options are hard.

It might just be another minimal upgrade like with Cuadradro....

Hi Friend!

Yes, I share your opinion. It would be perfect If we would sell to Oscar or Ramires to get a good amount of money to sign next summer a specific player in midfield.

But the player has to be a TOP player. No one player with nomal level / low level.

Like you, I also think Koke would be the perfect choice. He just improved his contract with Atletico de Madrid but reports in Spain Atletico Madrid insist that you are going to sell him this summer to sign the big signings Simeone required to continue training in the Atletico de Madrid. Almost taken for sure Koke leave Atletico Madrid next summer by choice and by the will of Atletico Madrid.

Koke would be perfect to complement Fabregas. He can play as a central midfielder with Matic or as Attacking Midfielder with Fabregas - Matic in midfield.

In addition, Koke knows how to move in the pitch with intelligence, rotating his position constantly. A dynamism which would allow us to recover the dynamic game earlier this season.

Another capability of Koke is that he knows also play on the sides. I think that's the main problem with Oscar, because he knows not play without disturbing Fabregas, not able to move sideways and he stuck our attack in the middle.

Therefore, Koke can play or he can play Fabregas replacing Fabregas which can help Fabregas with their problems in the second part of the season, making him the less tired.

Koke also is a player with a very well-educated head. He is a young and humble without big ambitions (the main the problem of Pogba) guy. In Spain people would compare him with Xavi Hernandez, but I think Koke also works hard for the team.

The following season with Koke.

Koke as a means Matic center.

Koke Matic

Willian Fabregas Hazard

Diego Costa

Koke as Attacking Midfielder.

Fabregas Matic

Willian Koke Hazard

Diego Costa

Without Fabregas (Resting physically to arrive with energy end of the season) but with Koke.

Loftus-Cheek - Ake Matic

Willian Koke Hazard

Diego Costa

Regarding Pogba, his price is a joke. I think paying that kind of money would be madness. Pogba has an immature mind. He has many faults like Balotelli. Of course Pogba is a great player, but he is a player with a remote slope of soccer and more photographs than mentality of the football, Freshness (Mino Raiola) which only causes problems (if Pogba comes to us every year he will ask raise shouting it from the newspapers of half the world). It is a very risky operation to pay 80 million pounds for him, for a player who raises many unknowns about their future.

I think Nathan Ake or Ruben Loftus-Cheek should play in all 11 games we have left to play this season. To my Ruben Loftus-Cheek has some features like Pogba, but Ruben has a well-educated head which gives me more guarantees than Pogba. Maybe if we use Ruben Loftus-Cheek from now he may be our surprise for next season.

This season with Ruben Loftus-Cheek o Nathan Ake.

Loftus-Cheek - Ake Matic

Willian Fabregas Hazard

Diego Costa

Thus we would break our current trend where the ball runs very slow.

Regards.

[Magic Lamps 11,692]

Hi Friend!

Yes, I share your opinion. It would be perfect If we would sell to Oscar or Ramires to get a good amount of money to sign next summer a specific player in midfield.

But the player has to be a TOP player. No one player with nomal level / low level.

Like you, I also think Koke would be the perfect choice. He just improved his contract with Atletico de Madrid but reports in Spain Atletico Madrid insist that you are going to sell him this summer to sign the big signings Simeone required to continue training in the Atletico de Madrid. Almost taken for sure Koke leave Atletico Madrid next summer by choice and by the will of Atletico Madrid.

Koke would be perfect to complement Fabregas. He can play as a central midfielder with Matic or as Attacking Midfielder with Fabregas - Matic in midfield.

In addition, Koke knows how to move in the pitch with intelligence, rotating his position constantly. A dynamism which would allow us to recover the dynamic game earlier this season.

Another capability of Koke is that he knows also play on the sides. I think that's the main problem with Oscar, because he knows not play without disturbing Fabregas, not able to move sideways and he stuck our attack in the middle.

Therefore, Koke can play or he can play Fabregas replacing Fabregas which can help Fabregas with their problems in the second part of the season, making him the less tired.

Koke also is a player with a very well-educated head. He is a young and humble without big ambitions (the main the problem of Pogba) guy. In Spain people would compare him with Xavi Hernandez, but I think Koke also works hard for the team.

The following season with Koke.

Koke as a means Matic center.

Koke Matic

Willian Fabregas Hazard

Diego Costa

Koke as Attacking Midfielder.

Fabregas Matic

Willian Koke Hazard

Diego Costa

Without Fabregas (Resting physically to arrive with energy end of the season) but with Koke.

Loftus-Cheek - Ake Matic

Willian Koke Hazard

Diego Costa

Regarding Pogba, his price is a joke. I think paying that kind of money would be madness. Pogba has an immature mind. He has many faults like Balotelli. Of course Pogba is a great player, but he is a player with a remote slope of soccer and more photographs than mentality of the football, Freshness (Mino Raiola) which only causes problems (if Pogba comes to us every year he will ask raise shouting it from the newspapers of half the world). It is a very risky operation to pay 80 million pounds for him, for a player who raises many unknowns about their future.

I think Nathan Ake or Ruben Loftus-Cheek should play in all 11 games we have left to play this season. To my Ruben Loftus-Cheek has some features like Pogba, but Ruben has a well-educated head which gives me more guarantees than Pogba. Maybe if we use Ruben Loftus-Cheek from now he may be our surprise for next season.

This season with Ruben Loftus-Cheek o Nathan Ake.

Loftus-Cheek - Ake Matic

Willian Fabregas Hazard

Diego Costa

Thus we would break our current trend where the ball runs very slow.

Regards.

thanks for your assessment . I like your optimism regarding transfers. Also I agree that Koke would be a nice option given he has the same if not higher workrate as Osar whilst at the same time being much more of a threat with his set pieces, creativity and superior technique. As a connoisseur of Spanish football, how much do you reckon Koke would cost us?

[supporter 3,088]

thanks for your assessment . I like your optimism regarding transfers. Also I agree that Koke would be a nice option given he has the same if not higher workrate as Osar whilst at the same time being much more of a threat with his set pieces, creativity and superior technique. As a connoisseur of Spanish football, how much do you reckon Koke would cost us?

Hi!

Thanks for your comment.

The rescission clause of his contract Koke are £ 42.82 million (€ 60 million). I think that hardly we could reduce his final price more than 10 million.

Last year we signed Diego Costa for £ 27.11 million (€ 38 million) from Atletico Madrid. That amount was the rescission clause of Diego.

They usually are offended if any team try to sign a player of his team (Atletico de Madrid has a lot of extravagance).

Another feature that I had not commented before about Koke is that he is understood to perfection with Diego Costa. Koke and Diego are understood without needing eye contact. When they were together in Atletico de Madrid did not stop to give them passes between them. To Diego Costa if we signed Koke this summer would be a blessing.

I think that, taking into account his age (23 years old), their quality, their mind without the luxuries of the money and his ability to work sacrificing for the team that amount of money -more or less £ 27.11 million (€ 38 million) - would be a good operation. With this signing would get a perfect replacement for Fabregas now and for the future.

Regards.

[Yeboii 1,844]

Can see him become the CAM more next season with Loftus-Cheek and Matic in the pivot. Oscar hasn't really helping his case the last few games (not many player have really).

[Sir Mikel OBE 4,920]

Can see him become the CAM more next season with Loftus-Cheek and Matic in the pivot. Oscar hasn't really helping his case the last few games (not many player have really).

Do you really see that, or are you hoping?

[Yeboii 1,844]

Do you really see that, or are you hoping?

Maybe it's better to say that I could see it happening (hoping but also thinking it might just as well happen). Mourinho has already said that Loftus-Cheek is good enough already, and if we want to abide with FFP then it's a wise move to start playing promising youngsters. Loftus-Cheek is the youngster that has been nearest to the first team this season so I believe that José thinks Loftus-Cheek is the most promising. However, who knows? He said things about Baker and Chalobah and it didn't really turn out well (at the moment). Maybe at a later date they will be starters.