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[Muzchap 8,966]

Yea Fabregas should've been dropped but playing Mikel-Ramires wouldn't change that much imo, it's still not good enough for a team like Chelsea, we should've replaced at least one of them last summer or even before. We don't have a good enough back up for Matic when he isn't playing at his best. The Matic-Fabregas pivot will only work when everyone is playing at his best, imo he should've stopped using it since January. We should really stop playing with a 4-2-3-1, we don't have players for that system and it's costing us...

Yes - I hate 4-2-3-1 it sucks!

The Board have gone from Trigger Happy to Spineless... Further evidence of our declining standards on and off of the pitch!

MOURINHO does not deserve loyalty - he shows no loyalty towards the club or the fans - it's all about HIM

That's why I want HIM gone!

If he had 'manned up' and taken a fair chunk of the blame my attitude would be different - but he hasn't, so it isn't.

The guy is just a joke and WE can do better than him as the public face of our club!

[bethos1 802]

morgan, kondogbia, imbula, bastian, vidal etc etc. how many very good midfielders switched club. yet, the only one we wanted was a 100million pogba. i dont think jose even wanted a midfielder.

4-2-3-1 is jose's formation and i totally agree that 4-3-3 would suit us better. again on jose.

as for mikel-rambo, they are good enough to beat palace and soton at home plus newcastle away.

He said before the season that he wanted another midfielder, obviously something didn't work out.

Mikel-Ramires would be good enough defensively, I can agree with that but I don't see us scoring a goal with that pivot. We're already having trouble scoring goals and having those 2 on the pitch won't help us imo. The best option atm would be Matic-Ramires-RLC atm I think but then again RLC clearly isn't ready to play in the PL lol.

[didierforever 7,349]

He said before the season that he wanted another midfielder, obviously something didn't work out.

Mikel-Ramires would be good enough defensively, I can agree with that but I don't see us scoring a goal with that pivot. We're already having trouble scoring goals and having those 2 on the pitch won't help us imo. The best option atm would be Matic-Ramires-RLC atm I think but then again RLC clearly isn't ready to play in the PL lol.

how many goals have we scored from open play in the last 2 games? both games willian scored free-kicks. we are concedding a minimum of 2 goals in every game which means we have to score 2 to draw and 3 to win. sorry, even barca/bayern/RM would get fucked in that scenario.

as for RLC. if cesc can play PL, RLC is damn sure ready.

[bethos1 802]

Yes - I hate 4-2-3-1 it sucks!

The Board have gone from Trigger Happy to Spineless... Further evidence of our declining standards on and off of the pitch!

MOURINHO does not deserve loyalty - he shows no loyalty towards the club or the fans - it's all about HIM

That's why I want HIM gone!

If he had 'manned up' and taken a fair chunk of the blame my attitude would be different - but he hasn't, so it isn't.

The guy is just a joke and WE can do better than him as the public face of our club!

I don't think 4-2-3-1 is a bad system, we just don't have the players for it. I don't really prefer one system over another, we should just adapt to our players, which we clearly aren't doing.

I could care less about what he says in the press, it's really not an issue for me.

The reasons I'd like to see a different manager is because it's his third season and what kind of improvement have we actually seen? We played good football for 5-6 months and then go back to playing boring football, which is fine for some people as long as we get results.

I feel like he hasn't done that much for us except for winning the title, there really isn't anything we can build upon imo, there isn't a system in place for the next few years and we still play with 0 fullbacks...

[bethos1 802]

how many goals have we scored from open play in the last 2 games? both games willian scored free-kicks. we are concedding a minimum of 2 goals in every game which means we have to score 2 to draw and 3 to win. sorry, even barca/bayern/RM would get fucked in that scenario.

as for RLC. if cesc can play PL, RLC is damn sure ready.

I agree with that, I just don't think we would've won our previous games with Mikel-Ramires in the pivot, at best a draw imo. Ofcourse RLC is ready, he's the only who actually looks capable of doing something with the ball.

[Despiadado.Maleante 1,046]

Man Utd - Mata

Arsenal - Cech

City - KDB

Liverpool - Sturridge

Everton - Lukaku

All 5 of our biggest title rivals have been given these players. Time for some serious reforms.

[Laylabelle 9,534]

Least KDB wasn't a direct sale..makes a change.It is so frustrating and to see them play a huge part in results..

[xPetrCechx 13,570]

I'm impressed with their patience.

lol... I hope for more.

[Starman60 1,343]

He said before the season that he wanted another midfielder, obviously something didn't work out.

Mikel-Ramires would be good enough defensively, I can agree with that but I don't see us scoring a goal with that pivot. We're already having trouble scoring goals and having those 2 on the pitch won't help us imo. The best option atm would be Matic-Ramires-RLC atm I think but then again RLC clearly isn't ready to play in the PL lol.

I am just reading what you wrote here that "Mikel-Ramires would be good enough defensively". I see what you're saying, but do you not think that this would be a step backwards? Only last season we were calling for both these players to be sold off, especially Mikel. It just highlights the hugh problems within the club when we are looking to these two players to pull us out of the mire.

I still have faith in Matic and I think it's Fabregas who has really unsettled the midfield. Loftus-Cheek alongside Matic I think should be given a run. But realistically, we are not creating chances, not getting shots on target and our individual defensive mistakes are getting punished every time they're made. And our managers stubborn blind loyalty to the system we play and to some players will inevitably cost us and him dearly. Basically no matter who we play in that CM position won't make any difference unless attitudes, desire, commitment and formational changes are made.......and quickly.

[bethos1 802]

I am just reading what you wrote here that "Mikel-Ramires would be good enough defensively". I see what you're saying, but do you not think that this would be a step backwards? Only last season we were calling for both these players to be sold off, especially Mikel. It just highlights the hugh problems within the club when we are looking to these two players to pull us out of the mire.

I still have faith in Matic and I think it's Fabregas who has really unsettled the midfield. Loftus-Cheek alongside Matic I think should be given a run. But realistically, we are not creating chances, not getting shots on target and our individual defensive mistakes are getting punished every time they're made. And our managers stubborn blind loyalty to the system we play and to some players will inevitably cost us and him dearly. Basically no matter who we play in that CM position won't make any difference unless attitudes, desire, commitment and formational changes are made.......and quickly.

Ofcourse it's a step back but atm I feel like Mikel-Ramires is stronger defensively than Matic-Fabregas. I agree with everything you're saying.

[didierforever 7,349]

I agree with that, I just don't think we would've won our previous games with Mikel-Ramires in the pivot, at best a draw imo. Ofcourse RLC is ready, he's the only who actually looks capable of doing something with the ball.

its not about winning or losing.

its about showing some heart. and BALLS. which players like cesc can never do.

[Jase 43,479]

Man Utd - Mata

Arsenal - Cech

City - KDB

Liverpool - Sturridge

Everton - Lukaku

All 5 of our biggest title rivals have been given these players. Time for some serious reforms.

Liverpool and Everton - our title rivals?

We didn't sell De Bruyne directly to Man City now, did we?

The Board have gone from Trigger Happy to Spineless... Further evidence of our declining standards on and off of the pitch!

If the club are trigger happy, people will moan they don't show enough patience. If they show patience, then people say they're spineless. The board can't please everyone, can they?

[bethos1 802]

its not about winning or losing.

its about showing some heart. and BALLS. which players like cesc can never do.

But who is showing heart? Only Azpi and Begovic seem like they're actually trying, everyone is playing like they don't give a fuck

[LDN Blue 7,903]

The Chelsea FC board will always be a plethora of mystery.

How they commanded and deserved our praise in the 2014 summer, for excellent and EARLY recruitment of Costa, Fabregas, recalling Courtois, Zouma etc. All these purchases showed their worth instantly.

But this season they've done the opposite. Lack of recruitment and organisation with the preseason has been telling. Awarding Mourinho with a new contract immediately, once again not learning from any of their mistakes in the past.

Can we fault them for Lukaku, Mata, De Bruyne? Well, in sales alone that brought in over £70m, the problem was they didn't get redistributed well and when they were, the results weren't there. Why it went wrong for Filipe Luis, Cuadrado, Schurrle and Salah will never be comprehended, I think there's quite obviously and justifiably fault placed on Mr Mourinho for that one.

Next summer, we'll probably invest £100m or close to. This all in an attempt to win back what ours and it will probably work.. Yet it's the follow through where our board continues to be naive. They've got to start learning from their mistakes and they have to do it soon if we ever hope to reach the heights of Bayern, Barca or Real.

[didierforever 7,349]

But who is showing heart? Only Azpi and Begovic seem like they're actually trying, everyone is playing like they don't give a fuck

Rambo abd mikel have shown a lot of heart. Infact ubtil the 60th minute against porto, our midfield did not get overrun.

Zouma and GC have been quite good. Its not their fault that one of the flanks have been screwed badly plus the CM providing them cover is as useless as a cardboard target. Willian has been great. Kenedy and RLC hav shown nothing but heart.

[bethos1 802]

Rambo abd mikel have shown a lot of heart. Infact ubtil the 60th minute against porto, our midfield did not get overrun.

Zouma and GC have been quite good. Its not their fault that one of the flanks have been screwed badly plus the CM providing them cover is as useless as a cardboard target. Willian has been great. Kenedy and RLC hav shown nothing but heart.

Ramires and Mikel looked decent at best against Porto, I wasn't impressed at all. Did they look better than Matic-Fabregas? Yes, but that's hardly worth mentioning given the form they are in. Zouma and Cahill should be our CB but they haven't looked that great either imo and Willian really hasn't looked that great, what has he done besides those free kicks? Ofcourse he looks better than Eden and Pedro but they're in shit form as well. Kenedy and RLC are the only ones that impressed me so far but they haven't started enough to give a judgement about imo.

As I've said before we failed during the summer, we should've replaced at least one of Ramires or Mikel, they really aren't good enough for this club no matter how much heart they show. They only deserve to start because Matic is playing like absolute shit, it's also not helping that Mou keeps putting Fabregas next to him. He never was capable of defending and he never will be, if we play him we need to put RLC or Ramires next to him to cover for his bad defending.

[didierforever 7,349]

Ramires and Mikel looked decent at best against Porto, I wasn't impressed at all. Did they look better than Matic-Fabregas? Yes, but that's hardly worth mentioning given the form they are in. Zouma and Cahill should be our CB but they haven't looked that great either imo and Willian really hasn't looked that great, what has he done besides those free kicks? Ofcourse he looks better than Eden and Pedro but they're in shit form as well. Kenedy and RLC are the only ones that impressed me so far but they haven't started enough to give a judgement about imo.

As I've said before we failed during the summer, we should've replaced at least one of Ramires or Mikel, they really aren't good enough for this club no matter how much heart they show. They only deserve to start because Matic is playing like absolute shit, it's also not helping that Mou keeps putting Fabregas next to him. He never was capable of defending and he never will be, if we play him we need to put RLC or Ramires next to him to cover for his bad defending.

i am sorry but i cant agree with that.

rambo-mikel looked great against walsall and against porto. u can say that walsall was a pretty nailed on win but so was newcastle. look at what city did to them. hell, look what most of the clubs have done to them. our midfield looked so fluent. why? no cesc. simple as that.

zouma and GC have shown heart. but these are hardly the times when u can say they are impressive. hell, this is hardly the time to judge them. u can put in nesta and maldini right now and they will look average playing alongside iva. remember vidic-rio and how they started declining once evra started getting beaten on 1v1s. and iva is getting beaten 4/5 times a game.

as for cesc and "putting" people beside other players to cover for them, i mean, honestly, this is the only club which has bodyguards for players. we play willian and ramires on the right wing to cover for iva. we play azpi on the left to cover for hazard and JT. we play matic and oscar to cover for cesc. how to expect free-flowing football when the players in their natural positions cant do their primary job (a RB should be defending, a CM should atleast be good in covering for defence). cesc needs to be shoved out of the team. do i wish we had got a better CM than rambo-mikel. i sure do. but since they are the best we have, so be it. they should be the ones starting right now.

for the villa game, i hope we see this

bego

azpi-zouma-GC-baba

mikel-rambo

willian-RLC-hazard

costa

[bethos1 802]

i am sorry but i cant agree with that.

rambo-mikel looked great against walsall and against porto. u can say that walsall was a pretty nailed on win but so was newcastle. look at what city did to them. hell, look what most of the clubs have done to them. our midfield looked so fluent. why? no cesc. simple as that.

zouma and GC have shown heart. but these are hardly the times when u can say they are impressive. hell, this is hardly the time to judge them. u can put in nesta and maldini right now and they will look average playing alongside iva. remember vidic-rio and how they started declining once evra started getting beaten on 1v1s. and iva is getting beaten 4/5 times a game.

as for cesc and "putting" people beside other players to cover for them, i mean, honestly, this is the only club which has bodyguards for players. we play willian and ramires on the right wing to cover for iva. we play azpi on the left to cover for hazard and JT. we play matic and oscar to cover for cesc. how to expect free-flowing football when the players in their natural positions cant do their primary job (a RB should be defending, a CM should atleast be good in covering for defence). cesc needs to be shoved out of the team. do i wish we had got a better CM than rambo-mikel. i sure do. but since they are the best we have, so be it. they should be the ones starting right now.

for the villa game, i hope we see this

bego

azpi-zouma-GC-baba

mikel-rambo

willian-RLC-hazard

costa

For me Mikel and Ramires looked decent against Walsall and Porto, they looked good enough to start but not great imo.

I can agree with everything else, I've said those things for a pretty long time.