coolhead23 1,147 Posted August 19, 2015 Share Posted August 19, 2015 If we have to shell out more than 30m .. why not try to lure Varane, better chance of Madrid accepting it than Everton ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madmax 9,219 Posted August 19, 2015 Share Posted August 19, 2015 Pay £35-40m now or watch him have a fantastic year and kill it at the Euro's and his price becomes £50-60m and we have ZERO chance of ever signing him.It's basically now or never.When United or City get him for 50m next summer the same people posting '40m? lmao' now will turn around and say we should have signed him when we had the chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 18,897 Posted August 19, 2015 Share Posted August 19, 2015 When United or City get him for 50m next summer the same people posting '40m? lmao' now will turn around and say we should have signed him when we had the chance.Yep. Just like Luke Shaw who has looked fantastic for United so far this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milka 3,393 Posted August 19, 2015 Share Posted August 19, 2015 Chelsea’s pursuit of John Stones is complicated by a sell-on clause which could earn Barnsley a windfall of around £5million.The League One club are entitled to 15 per cent of the fee if Stones leaves Everton, a clause inserted into the transfer when he left Oakwell for £3m, two years ago.Jose Mourinho is anxious to prise the 21-year-old defender from Goodison Park before the transfer window closes at the end of this month and convinced he is ready to step straight into the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted August 19, 2015 Share Posted August 19, 2015 If were prepared to pay 40m for Stones, is this not a indication that the youth system at Chelsea is a complete waste of time and money?Absolutely not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iseah100 5,612 Posted August 19, 2015 Share Posted August 19, 2015 Stones could make this a lot easier for us and hand in a transfer request.Why has he not? No ambition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DYC. 7,542 Posted August 19, 2015 Share Posted August 19, 2015 When United or City get him for 50m next summer the same people posting '40m? lmao' now will turn around and say we should have signed him when we had the chance.How many players would cost you 50 mil though? Let alone CBs because Stones would be the first one.I don't understand this desperation for Stones tbh. Is it the English thing? As if he's somehow Chelsea last chance at an Englishman in the team. Before Stones and Shaw, it was the likes of Smalling, Jones, Rodwell, Chamberlain, Walcott etc. There will be others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duppy Conqueror 1,533 Posted August 19, 2015 Share Posted August 19, 2015 I don`t believe there is a law that states all transfer requests from players must be shared with the media. behind closed doors he may have already said he would like to join Chelsea. it may just not be his style to use the media to get what he wants,which when we are talking about a player we wish to sign as a longterm player,is a good quality to have. rather than a case of him having no ambition. Martinez has alluded to the fact that Stones is interested in us if you read between the lines.we handled this transfer badly from the start and have been playing catch up ever since.we pissed off Everton and they are therefore playing harder ball that they would have..but I think we will get him eventually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madmax 9,219 Posted August 19, 2015 Share Posted August 19, 2015 How many players would cost you 50 mil though? Let alone CBs because Stones would be the first one.I don't understand this desperation for Stones tbh. Is it the English thing? As if he's somehow Chelsea last chance at an Englishman in the team. Before Stones and Shaw, it was the likes of Smalling, Jones, Rodwell, Chamberlain, Walcott etc. There will be others.The market is crazy, it's pointless comparing to what's gone on before because those times will never return. Every passing window the prices go up a level you wouldn't think they would touch, but it happens anyway. With stuff like the new deal kicking in next season, this will continue. So for one of the top handful good young English players out there it's not unreasonable to think Everton would ask for such a price.It's not an English thing (for me, anyway) .. we were always going to need a proactive centre back and while we probably can hold off on a signing in this position for this season, I suppose if the club thinks we better address the situation now when there appears to be no competition, why not go for it? Looking at the alternatives there are the likes of Varane (impossible), Gimenez (Atleitco drive a hard bargain too) and Laporte (release clause of about 35m and I admit Idk much about him because hey, I don't have time to watch Athetic) ... no distinctly better option out there in that age bracket. There's always going to be some English tax but we can afford it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DYC. 7,542 Posted August 19, 2015 Share Posted August 19, 2015 The market is crazy, it's pointless comparing to what's gone on before because those times will never return. Every passing window the prices go up a level you wouldn't think they would touch, but it happens anyway. With stuff like the new deal kicking in next season, this will continue. So for one of the top handful good young English players out there it's not unreasonable to think Everton would ask for such a price.It's not an English thing (for me, anyway) .. we were always going to need a proactive centre back and while we probably can hold off on a signing in this position for this season, I suppose if the club thinks we better address the situation now when there appears to be no competition, why not go for it? Looking at the alternatives there are the likes of Varane (impossible), Gimenez (Atleitco drive a hard bargain too) and Laporte (release clause of about 35m and I admit Idk much about him because hey, I don't have time to watch Athetic) ... no distinctly better option out there in that age bracket. There's always going to be some English tax but we can afford it.Prices will drive up but I don't think we've reached the point where young CBs cost you 40-50 mil. I know Di Maria is older, but he is an attacking player, a worldwide known name, and his 44 mil deal to PSG is the biggest transfer this window.I don't think Everton are doing anything wrong. They don't want to sell so it's their right to drag this on as long as they want (to the clear dismay of Chelsea fans haha).If it's not the English factor then fine. There are others, like those you have mentioned. I'm sure they won't cost you this much though. Though if Stones does end up joining for 40-50 mil, there will be a shift and the prices will go up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted August 19, 2015 Share Posted August 19, 2015 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3203577/Everton-ask-Inter-Milan-potential-John-Stones-replacement-Andrea-Ranocchia.htmlEverton going after Inter Milan's Ranocchia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DYC. 7,542 Posted August 19, 2015 Share Posted August 19, 2015 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3203577/Everton-ask-Inter-Milan-potential-John-Stones-replacement-Andrea-Ranocchia.htmlEverton going after Inter Milan's Ranocchia.I remember Ranocchia being dubbed the next Nesta/Maldini. Didn't quite work out for him. He's so error-prone and painfully unathletic. Wrong type of CB for the PL imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madmax 9,219 Posted August 19, 2015 Share Posted August 19, 2015 Prices will drive up but I don't think we've reached the point where young CBs cost you 40-50 mil. I know Di Maria is older, but he is an attacking player, a worldwide known name, and his 44 mil deal to PSG is the biggest transfer this window.Sterling.I think you also have to look at England in isolation, even more so the top English clubs. They have more to spend than everyone bar Bayern and the big 2 in Spain, especially when it comes to English players. Even Arsenal paid £16m for Chambers, ffs. I'm not saying Stones isn't overpriced, I just think the extra 5 or 10 million won't hurt us when we're getting a good, versatile, HG player who will contribute straightaway and hopefully kick on to be a key member looking ahead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDA 9,937 Posted August 19, 2015 Share Posted August 19, 2015 This guy is the next Terry .. He has it all. I am friends with a lot of Everton fans (proper scousers) and they all say he is the best player at Everton by miles. Some say he is the best player they have ever watched at Goodison! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xPetrCechx 13,570 Posted August 19, 2015 Share Posted August 19, 2015 ROB @1RobBeasley Well ok..... two out of three won't be bad!!! ROB @1RobBeasley have stones pedro and pogba signed yet???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thendo 1,088 Posted August 19, 2015 Share Posted August 19, 2015 ROB @1RobBeasley Well ok..... two out of three won't be bad!!! ROB @1RobBeasley have stones pedro and pogba signed yet???? So we're getting Pogba? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue-in-me-Veins 4,067 Posted August 19, 2015 Share Posted August 19, 2015 The price doesn't bother me, especially when you consider the fact he may service this club for 10+ years, i think it's worth it.Stones and Zouma is a mouth-watering proposition. Both are mobile, young and showing showing such great promise already. Throw in Baba and Azpi and suddenly we can play a high line, compress the field, and that makes Costa and Company's pressing job that much easier. Matic has less ground to cover too, and when we win the ball high up the field it makes for easier goal-scoring opprotunities.And if it costs 40M to do this, then so be it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,141 Posted August 19, 2015 Share Posted August 19, 2015 Just go away Rob Beasley. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted August 19, 2015 Share Posted August 19, 2015 When United or City get him for 50m next summer the same people posting '40m? lmao' now will turn around and say we should have signed him when we had the chance.like we are doing with shaw? no thank you."40mil? lmao" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted August 19, 2015 Share Posted August 19, 2015 ROB @1RobBeasley Well ok..... two out of three won't be bad!!! ROB @1RobBeasley have stones pedro and pogba signed yet???? thank u beasley!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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