Fernando Torres

[Tomo 21,733]

Understand the context. We bought in Eto'o two days before loaning out Lukaku. Eto'o was bought in from semi-retirement after chasing a fat paycheque to Russia. Neither of these things endear him to fans, and he simply represents a lot of the bad stuff at this club.

Torres has put in some very good shifts this season and scored some very important goals (the first against Palace, the first against Southampton, the winner against City) and yesterday he should've scored but for a fantastic bit of keeping.

What is this thing with people removing context from things?

That may be a point if it started with Eto'o but it's been going on since he came here, Torres gets praised for thing's Sturridge and even Drogba got slaughtered for. You mention the Eto'o-Lukaku thing (which is a fair point) but we practically lost Sturridge due to a last ditch attempt to save face with the Torres deal.

Torres may put in good shifts at times but he also has his lazy days, and when he does he's at Berbatov level. Eto'o has also put in shifts aswell (to the point he has been harassing and pressing goalkeepers) and has also scored vital goals (Cardiff to make it 2-1, Liverpool).

But at the end of the day, neither are good enough and Eto'o will be gone in the summer, hopefully he can take Torres to MLS with him.

[Mouri_Matic 560]

Good goal but terrible performance again, against better teams that goal would have never happened, Hull was just too tired by the end.

[We Hate Scouse 10,286]

Goal aside he played absolutely appalling.

[The only place to be 11,313]

Give the guy a break. Scored a goal and worked his bollocks off leading our pressing game. He also did surprisingly well in the air despite a lack of support for his knockdowns.

[Polo7 3,496]

Hopefully the goal will lead to better things. 2 goals in 2 games now and both away from home

[CHOULO19 24,332]

I thought he did pretty well in the air and his movement was very good to give Eden and Willian space to run into. Keep in mind he was playing against not two but three CBs.

[Rambo 1,729]

Putrid performance but can't complain when he scores like that. Almost forgot he was on the pitch for the majority of the match.

[manpe 10,861]

Putrid performance but can't complain when he scores like that. Almost forgot he was on the pitch for the majority of the match.

Same here. But in this sense it was classic Torres, he has often been described as a striker who can disappear in the match and then pop up in the dying minutes and score. He did just that and when he scores I don't complain.

[bluesman2610 1,341]

Average for most of the game and did work pretty hard pressing defenders.. Just happy he got the goal .. now kick on Nando if he can play this poor and keep scoring and we get the wins I have no issues with him... Fair play to you sir!

[Sheva. 5,373]

Hull didn't look like creating anything, but that was still a very important goal.

We would be further clear at the top if our strikers doubled our lead more often.

[BlueLion. 21,491]

Scores when he wants.

[darrus 422]

In a way I so want him to do well, and not only because we are stuck with him, but it could potentially be a great story if he overcomes whatever problems he has. It even looks like he's improved his speed and pace recently, he is running, he is trying. And should finally take confidence in the fact that he is scoring. But he's just so shocking at times.

And I wasn't the only one noticing in a match thread that sometimes AMs look like they are avoiding passing the ball to him. That's just a bit worrying.

[Mouri_Matic 560]

I think he actually notices the players don't seem to like him anymore, the way he celebrate the goal is a bit muted imo. Usually it would be a important goal to kill off the game he should at least run to the crowd to the celebrate but now he just seems emotionless, scoring or not he couldn't careless anymore.

[darrus 422]

scoring or not he couldn't careless anymore.

I don't think it has anything to do with other players, more like general lack of self-belief. Something like you tell someone 10000 times that he is sh*t and he'll finally start believing that he is sh*t.

Not that it is completely unwarranted, sadly. But Mourinho is doing a clever thing praising him at every opportunity.

[Gilvorak 3,734]

Sick of this guy always scores during the transfer window to buy himself time. Get rid already.

[Mouri_Matic 560]

I don't think it has anything to do with other players, more like general lack of self-belief. Something like you tell someone 10000 times that he is sh*t and he'll finally start believing that he is sh*t.

Not that it is completely unwarranted, sadly. But Mourinho is doing a clever thing praising him at every opportunity.

To be fair this was always coming and he isn't known to be the player with thickest skin like Shrek, Ibra either. Eventually Mou will have to give up too imo, just isn't good enough I am afraid. He could have a blinder against City then not touching the ball more than 5 times against West Ham next week, that is the sort of situation he is in really. I think the best way is for him to leave and come to a place where there is no pressure and he could actually enjoy football again.

Sick of this guy always scores during the transfer window to buy himself time. Get rid already.

Good luck finding someone paying £175k per week for him, even on a free it is a terrible deal for anyone.

[Tomo 21,733]

well taken goal but my god how many attacks can one person mess up.

[BlueLion. 21,491]

well taken goal but my god how many attacks can one person mess up.

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