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I remember when we topped the group after four games and could relax the last couple, would like that again, so for that we need the weakest group possible, although having said that you need other results to go your way for that to happen, even if you win your first four.

It's also possible to secure your qualification to the knockout round after three games, that would be nice.

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yeah i hope United finally get a tough group but i dont care about Arsenal, they have no chance of winning it anyway

I just cant imagine how a poor team like arsenal have qualified out of every group stage for more than 10 yrs now. Theve been luckily avoiding tough groups.

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Zenit have beaten Pacos Ferreira 4-2 in the second leg tonight meaning they won 8-3 on aggregate and have qualified for the group stage. Their pot allocation is still unknown for now but their qualification means Man City will be in Pot 3 while FC Copenhagen in Pot 4 for the group stage draw.

Read the first post for more information.

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The chances of us getting an easy group are very low though.

Just look at all those teams, there are many good teams per seed so I don't expect an easy group. The easy groups are for United and Arsenal.

Kojo, pessimistic as usual. But yeah after recent seasons, I'm also inclined to think the same.

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What's cancelled? The Sheep sacrifice? The fans couldn't do it anyway cause UEFA said so.

UEFA did, but the mind was made up already not to.

Viktor Kumykov, the Shakhter coach, had suggested the sacrifice would be repeated but a Celtic spokesman said: "Clearly this would not happen. Shakhter have spoken to the club and said this is a misunderstanding and made it clear they have no intention whatsoever of doing anything like this."

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I just cant imagine how a poor team like arsenal have qualified out of every group stage for more than 10 yrs now. Theve been luckily avoiding tough groups.

Except, Arsenal in European terms are hardly a poor team. Yes, they haven't won a trophy in a long time, but a top-4 finish every year in the best league the world means you are good team.

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Tonight's final five play-off results:

Celtic 3-0 Shakhter Karagandy (Celtic win 3-2 on agg)

Real Sociedad 2-0 Lyon (Real Sociedad win 4-0 on agg)

Zenit St. Peterburg 4-2 Pacos Ferreira (Zenit win 8-3 on agg)

AC Milan 3-0 PSV Eindhoven (AC Milan win 4-1 on agg)

NK Maribor 0-1 Viktoria Plzen (Viktoria Plzen win 4-1 on agg)

We now know the confirmed and final pot allocations. See first post to find out.

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Could we be in danger of dropping down to pot 2 if we have another poor CL campaign? lets be honest 11/12 aside we haven't done anything of any note in the CL since Hiddink was around.

no way. by uefa coefficient we are 4th in europe. also arsenal are still in pot 1 and i seriously cant remember the last time they made semis. :)

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It’s nearly that time of the season once again where the Champions League season will kick off in a month’s time. And that means the group stage draw is not far off as it will take place next Thursday on 29th August in Monaco at 4.45pm UK time. As you may also have noticed there, the draw is done one day before we face Bayern Munich in the UEFA Super Cup.

(You might be wondering why another thread is created for this when a Chelsea-related European thread already exists but since that one is being used to discuss about the Super Cup game, created a separate one first and will later merge this with that thread once it’s over.)

Just like every other Champions League season’s group stage draw, 32 teams will participate in the competition and they will be allocated to 4 pots based on their latest UEFA Coefficients which can be seen here. A team will then be drawn out from each pot to form a group of 4 teams and in total having eight different groups with four various teams in them. And remember, teams from the same country cannot be drawn together in the group stage as well as in the round of Last 16 until the quarter finals come about.

Currently, we still do not know the full allocations of teams in each pot yet as the play-off ties are still ongoing and will only conclude next week. However, there are already 22 teams that will be guaranteed to feature in the group stage though not necessarily all of their pot placing have been decided yet as it will be determined by which teams win their play-off tie and their UEFA coefficients. Anyway, you can see the ‘rough’ allocations for the teams in the pot and the ongoing play-off tie results below:

Pot 1

1. Barcelona

2. Bayern Munich

3. Chelsea

4. Real Madrid

5. Manchester United

6. Arsenal

7. FC Porto

8. Benfica

Pot 2

1. Atletico Madrid

2. Shakhtar Donetsk

3. Schalke

4. Marseille

5. CSKA Moscow

6. Paris St. Germain

7. AC Milan

8. Juventus

Pot 3

1. Ajax

2. Borussia Dortmund

3. Basel

4. Olympiacos

5. Galatasaray

6. Manchester City

7. Zenit St. Petersburg

8. Bayer Leverkusen

Pot 4

1. Napoli

2. Anderlecht

3. Steaua Bucharest

4. Austria Wien

5. FC Copenhagen

6. Celtic

7. Viktoria Plzen

8. Real Sociedad

Play-Off Tie Results:

First Leg (20th and 21st August)

Shakhter Karagandy 2-0 Celtic

Lyon 0-2 Real Sociedad

Pacos Ferreira 1-4 Zenit St. Petersburg

PSV Eindhoven 1-1 AC Milan

Viktoria Plzen 3-1 NK Maribor

Dinamo Zagreb 0-2 Austria Wien

Fenerbahce 0-3 Arsenal

Ludogorets Razgrad 2-4 Basel

Schalke 1-1 PAOK Thessaloniki

Steaua Bucharest 1-1 Legia Warsaw

Second Leg (27th and 28th August)

Celtic 3-0 Shakhter Karagandy (Celtic win 3-2 on agg)

Real Sociedad 2-0 Lyon (Real Sociedad win 4-0 on agg)

Zenit St. Peterburg 4-2 Pacos Ferreira (Zenit win 8-3 on agg)

AC Milan 3-0 PSV Eindhoven (AC Milan win 4-1 on agg)

NK Maribor 0-1 Viktoria Plzen (Viktoria Plzen win 4-1 on agg)

Austria Wien 2-3 Dinamo Zagreb (Ausria Wien win 4-3 on agg)

Arsenal 2-0 Fenerbahce (Arsenal win 5-0 on agg)

Basel 2-0 Ludogorets Razgrad (Basel win 6-2 on agg)

PAOK Thessaloniki 2-3 Schalke (Schalke win 4-3 on agg)

Legia Warsaw 2-2 Steaua Bucharest (Steaua Bucharest win on away goals rule after 3-3 on agg)

So, what are your thoughts on it? Who would you want us to face? Which team needs to be avoided? Discuss all of it here.

P.S. I will be updating this as it goes along.

I just want to avoid Dortmund and Juventus. Schalke would be a GREAT draw from pot two.

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