KonohasOrangeFlash 2,607 Posted October 8, 2012 Share Posted October 8, 2012 Defoe is not shit...wtf.He's mediocre. He has his good days but that's obviously not enough to warrant calling him a good player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kieran. 6,317 Posted October 8, 2012 Share Posted October 8, 2012 He's mediocre. He has his good days but that's obviously not enough to warrant calling him a good player.I rate him. England's most underrated striker for a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fulham Broadway 17,365 Posted October 8, 2012 Share Posted October 8, 2012 We have a different team now, bristling with young talent. We will put the yids in their place Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diskoviolente 425 Posted October 8, 2012 Share Posted October 8, 2012 I never really hated Spurs and don´t do now with AVB at the helm. I don´t really get the anger of some of the posters here for AVB. Sure, he did bad for us but to be honest, he was ill advised and not the right man for the job of cutting the old wood and all, but seriously.We have to start with Mikel and Ramires in midfield. Mikel can man-mark anyone out of the game on his day, Ramires gives their athletes something to think about.It sounds like a Clichy but we have to take the game to them; can´t have them dictacte play. The only real worry is Defoe who on his day is one of the cleverest and smartest strikers in England, he certainly is my favourite english striker alongside Sturridge. Anyway, I think we´ll have to start with the same line-up from the Arsenal game.Our fullbacks never really had problems with their wingers, as far as I can remember. The strikers always gave us problems. So I reckon for this game it will be Cahill-Luiz (as JT is banned?). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KonohasOrangeFlash 2,607 Posted October 8, 2012 Share Posted October 8, 2012 We have a different team now, bristling with young talent. We will put the yids in their placeI'm with you. I sense a reasonably big/comfortable win on the way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted October 8, 2012 Share Posted October 8, 2012 As much as I love Frank he just doesn't have the legs for this game, go checkout Man U v Spurs - you'll see what I'm saying...first half or second? because the second half after Dempsey's goal the ball was near enough permanently in the final 3rd of Tottenham's own goal. It made our approach at the Nou Camp look like a display off all out attack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted October 8, 2012 Share Posted October 8, 2012 Why do people want FL as the number ten? Even when he was younger and in his prime he wasn't really good there. Playing him there will just turn the formation into an inverse 4-3-3. I'm not saying FL shouldn't start but come on, emotions aside guys, let's play to win first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted October 8, 2012 Share Posted October 8, 2012 If Defoe starts then I reckon we should focus on playing centrally (as in starting the trio of Oscar, Mata and Hazard) as they wouldn't have a target man to aim to from their wing play. Also, if Defoe starts I believe it's essential we start Luiz. Luiz will be vital against Defoe's pace and agility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
communicate 2,703 Posted October 8, 2012 Share Posted October 8, 2012 We really need to study the 2nd half of MU vs spuds because for me Spuds is just an average team without their sprinter athletes. MU absolutely dominating them in the 2nd half, AVB even need to sub out Dembele due to fatigue. So the key here is pressure, and i don't think we can provide that with Lampard in the line up. Torres, Oscar & Ramires is a must starter.I am not really sure we can use that game to say that they are average. Spurs concededed a quick goal after dempsey goal and naturally players will tend to sit deep to avoid another goals and manu has scholes who if you give him time and space is arguably epl best midfield general. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TorontoChelsea 4,064 Posted October 8, 2012 Share Posted October 8, 2012 If Defoe starts then I reckon we should focus on playing centrally (as in starting the trio of Oscar, Mata and Hazard) as they wouldn't have a target man to aim to from their wing play. Also, if Defoe starts I believe it's essential we start Luiz. Luiz will be vital against Defoe's pace and agility.Bale often cuts into the middle which makes him trickier to mark, Dempsey and Dembele can make runs, and even Vertonghen and Walker can get in there as well The other issue is that they wouldn't necessarily need a target man. If Lennon and Bale are able to pull the defence apart (say if Cole or Ivanovic get caught up-field, our central defenders would be forced to cover the attacker), then there would be massive avenues for Defoe and Dempsey to run into. That means that Spurs can got caught on the counter on the wings as well, but we are likely going to need some width to be able to score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muzchap 8,966 Posted October 8, 2012 Share Posted October 8, 2012 first half or second? because the second half after Dempsey's goal the ball was near enough permanently in the final 3rd of Tottenham's own goal. It made our approach at the Nou Camp look like a display off all out attack.First half, where they were 2-0 up...Second half was a non contest although they did score again on counter...For them it was job done sit back and defend and nick a goal on the counter (exactly what happened)Although they were too deep and Utd should have punished them! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bir_CFC 3,455 Posted October 8, 2012 Share Posted October 8, 2012 The way we play, our biggest weakness is counterattacks and Spurs are the best counterattacking team in the PL. RDM uses Ivan and Cole to provide width and they play very very high up the pitch so we are susceptible to counterattacks. We have to be aware of that threat. If we can avoid sloppy mistakes and keep a lot of possession thus limiting their counterattacking opportunities we can kill em. Should be a very entertaining match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beirut_Blues 306 Posted October 8, 2012 Share Posted October 8, 2012 I've always loved this fixture entertainment-wise.... With this team and confidence we can beat them.. keep in mind a draw at WHL is not disappointing at all, but we can beat them and hopefully we shall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HNKS 508 Posted October 8, 2012 Share Posted October 8, 2012 I rate him. England's most underrated striker for a while.Just because you rate him that doesnt make him a quality player. He isnt even good enough for spurs in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stats 7,156 Posted October 8, 2012 Share Posted October 8, 2012 Just because you rate him that doesnt make him a quality player. He isnt even good enough for spurs in my opinion.Well he is banging in the goals for them so far this season and keeping Adebayor out. I have always thought he is a good striker and AVB clearly does and in return Defoe is scoring and creating some as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zolayes 14,489 Posted October 8, 2012 Share Posted October 8, 2012 its ages to the Spuds game ,,,pointless qualifiers and FA kangaroo courts before then .... more interesting watching the BBC squirm over tax dodges and child abuse ,,, Thats where our license money goes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted October 8, 2012 Share Posted October 8, 2012 Here's what AVB said ahead this game yesterday.http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2012/oct/07/andre-villas-boas-tottenham-chelsea?newsfeed=true"It's not on an individual sense that I'm looking forward to the match, it's on a collective level," he said. "When you play the unbeaten leaders of the league, you can use that motivation towards the game. It will give us a chance to finally break into the top four and join the elite of the Premier League. That's what we've been wanting for quite some time."Chelsea are a tremendous attacking force, something that is surprising everybody. There are a lot of creative players in that team offering all types of solutions, movements."We understand this mobility behind Fernando [Torres] can cause you problems. It is going to be a difficult game but we are showing a good level of competence. We hope to profit from the fact that we are playing at home and against an unbeaten league leader." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarcyWard 13 Posted October 8, 2012 Share Posted October 8, 2012 I personally wouldn't start Oscar for this, Spurs play a high tempo game and It will be tough for him to deal with the pace in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Funkyflashman 187 Posted October 8, 2012 Share Posted October 8, 2012 I'd start Oscar without a shadow of a doubt. For me I'd expectIvan...Cahill...Luiz...Cole.......Ramires...Mikel.........Mata...Ocar...Hazard................Torres..............Though can't say I'd be surprised to see Bertrand or Ramires on the wing. I just think that we have been so good since RDM decided to be proactive and take control of games. I'd rather see those three behind Torres and give Spurs more problems to deal with, than back off and take our threat away to deal with Bale and co.Tottenham have to be absolutely terrified of that front 4. Play them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kieran. 6,317 Posted October 8, 2012 Share Posted October 8, 2012 Just because you rate him that doesnt make him a quality player. He isnt even good enough for spurs in my opinion.Just because you don't rate him doesn't make him NOT a quality player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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