David Luiz

[robsblubot 3,498]

nope. watch the goal. luiz goes out of position, tries to intercept the ball. JT tries to lessen the space left by luiz. also iva was properly marking jelavic until luiz went out of position, but as soon as luiz moved ahead iva, moved towards JT to mark the now unmarked naismith.

so jelavic became free at the far post. but most concerning point was tthat luiz made no effort on coming back to his position or covering his team-mates.

and this was not the only incident in the match. even early on in the match luiz made a stupid run forward (in the first 20 minutes or so). showed no defensive discipline whatso ever thruout the match. could have been sent off easily. was sulking when cech decided to ping the ball ahead rather than pass to him and the way he held himself today was pathetic.

Jela lost Iva; because Iva was marking him at the beginning of the play but did not do a good job allowing the ball to be sent back into the box. JT was obviously not prepared for the live ball and also lost his man, but I reckon Iva mishap was the main cause for the goal.

My point remain he moved up *because* we were getting involved. So, you can't say had he not moved up we'd be able to cover... etc Because had he not moved up, the wide pass by the everton player wouldn't have been necessary as he might have gone straight for the goal. There was an opening there.

My bias here is that I dislike defenders in line inside our own box most of the time (used to be common in the EPL I know), especially in open play. No I am not sure his movement was good, as I don't know what Mourinho instructs him to do, but I also don't think it was the main cause for the goal as we had two defenders covering two everton players and the cross wasn't that great to be honest.

So, while I also question David's positioning (with the caveat that I am not 100% certain it was a bad move), I'd not call him the culprit; JT and Iva were just as, if not more, at fault there. They are supposed to be the dominant ones in the air after all, and prob the reason they were inside the box at that moment and David wasn't - perhaps just as instructed by Mou.

[Henrique 9,133]

AWFUL. PATHETIC. HOPELESS. DISGRACEFUL PERFORMANCE.

All these words are fine to describe yourself. It seems you are one of those guys that only cares about short term results. You should avoid internet after a bad result. Take a breath, and return few hours later. This forum will be a better place, believe me.

[Ainsley Harriott 2,732]

All these words are fine to describe yourself. It seems you are one of those guys that only cares about short term results. You should avoid internet after a bad result. Take a breath, and return few hours later. This forum will be a better place, believe me.

He can't criticise him for a bad performance? You do that all the time

[Stats 7,053]

All these words are fine to describe yourself. It seems you are one of those guys that only cares about short term results. You should avoid internet after a bad result. Take a breath, and return few hours later. This forum will be a better place, believe me.

HAHA, what a hypocrite. Same thing you do about Lukaku etc. His reaction was a bit OTT but you don't need to defend every single Brazilian players all the time.

[Henrique 9,133]

HAHA, what a hypocrite. Same thing you do about Lukaku etc. His reaction was a bit OTT but you don't need to defend every single Brazilian players all the time.

Criticizing is different from harsh words. Wake up.

[Henrique 9,133]

He can't criticise him for a bad performance? You do that all the time

If you are comparing my criticism with this: "AWFUL. PATHETIC. HOPELESS. DISGRACEFUL PERFORMANCE." then you are hopeless or you got no eyes at all.

[bleed_blue 136]

AWFUL. PATHETIC. HOPELESS. DISGRACEFUL PERFORMANCE.

If this had been posted in the Mikel thread, choulo19 would have already given you 100 warning points or even a ban. You are lucky you chose the right thread.

[Ainsley Harriott 2,732]

If you are comparing my criticism with this: "AWFUL. PATHETIC. HOPELESS. DISGRACEFUL PERFORMANCE." then you are hopeless or you got no eyes at all.

I'm just saying you're not one to talk

[Henrique 9,133]

I'm just saying you're not one to talk

Im TC Legend. Respect.

[Henrique 9,133]

On David Luiz who ended the game as part of a defence reduced in numbers when Fernando Torres was brought on for Ashley Cole…
'He played very well. What happened in the last minutes with a yellow card when maybe it could be a red is the kind of situation that occurs playing the way we were playing. We are not afraid to lose 2-0 to try to get a different result, but David was solid, very dominant and was building from the back.

[zolayes 14,489]

The solution is obvious SELL him to Barca and get Rios lil bro Anton

[Ainsley Harriott 2,732]

Im TC Legend. Respect.

Lol, stay mad

[Stats 7,053]

On David Luiz who ended the game as part of a defence reduced in numbers when Fernando Torres was brought on for Ashley Cole…

'He played very well. What happened in the last minutes with a yellow card when maybe it could be a red is the kind of situation that occurs playing the way we were playing. We are not afraid to lose 2-0 to try to get a different result, but David was solid, very dominant and was building from the back.

I am not denying he was good. he was rash sometimes but he did produce moments of quality as well. His ability with the ball at time was very exciting to see. Mikel saved him from getting a red though.

[CHOULO19 24,332]

He did have his moments, but just made too many mistakes. I do admire his desire to do something when we are losing, but that ends up costing us. You just can't leave your position so often against a team like Everton.

[didierforever 7,349]

All these words are fine to describe yourself. It seems you are one of those guys that only cares about short term results. You should avoid internet after a bad result. Take a breath, and return few hours later. This forum will be a better place, believe me.

all this coming from u!!! huh...

truth too hot to handle???

[Magic Lamps 11,653]

Entire defence was unorganized for the goal, luiz not covering himself in glory either.

[The Skipper 20,593]

Had his bad moments but wasn't half as bad as what people made him out to be.

People don't understand the type of defender Luiz is, he's the aggressor, he's the one that goes out to win the ball early, so of course he won't be in perfect position all the time. People need to get over it.

[didierforever 7,349]

Jela lost Iva; because Iva was marking him at the beginning of the play but did not do a good job allowing the ball to be sent back into the box. JT was obviously not prepared for the live ball and also lost his man, but I reckon Iva mishap was the main cause for the goal.

My point remain he moved up *because* we were getting involved. So, you can't say had he not moved up we'd be able to cover... etc Because had he not moved up, the wide pass by the everton player wouldn't have been necessary as he might have gone straight for the goal. There was an opening there.

My bias here is that I dislike defenders in line inside our own box most of the time (used to be common in the EPL I know), especially in open play. No I am not sure his movement was good, as I don't know what Mourinho instructs him to do, but I also don't think it was the main cause for the goal as we had two defenders covering two everton players and the cross wasn't that great to be honest.

So, while I also question David's positioning (with the caveat that I am not 100% certain it was a bad move), I'd not call him the culprit; JT and Iva were just as, if not more, at fault there. They are supposed to be the dominant ones in the air after all, and prob the reason they were inside the box at that moment and David wasn't - perhaps just as instructed by Mou.

iva HAD to take up luiz's place and lessen the space created INSIDE the box by luiz. he HAD to let go jela. jela was no longer iva's man. u cant blame him for jela playing the ball back again. this is like a chain reaction and the catalyst here is LUIZ. his mistake of trying to be the hero cost us.

there was no opening. watch JT. he was covering his end. plus i would take an everton player trying to shoot from 20-25 yards out rather than some1 trying to head the ball in from 2 yards.

for me, its simple. if u r a defender of your team, your PRIMARY objective is to DEFEND. when u have done that, then u think about attack and trying to nibble the ball away and stuff. luiz is supposed to be our future captain, such reckless acts and poor decision making is not the ideal way to go.