Roman Abramovich Thread

[MoroccanBlue 5,318]

1 minute ago, Blues Forever said:

 

The man is worth under a billion, isn't he?

[Blues Forever 1,232]

1 minute ago, MoroccanBlue said:

The man is worth under a billion, isn't he?

Yes, basically another consortium.

[Superblue 6,372]

Just now, MoroccanBlue said:

The man is worth under a billion, isn't he?

I can't see a situation where we're bought by one person. All the front runners that people are mentioning seem to be consortium based bids so with that in mind people like Martin Broughton and Nick Candy are very much in the frame in my opinion if they have backers.

I'm past caring about who has the biggest pockets, firstly I want a club to support more than anything.

Secondly I just want someone who is going to run the club to the best of their ability and do what's right for us. Understanding English football in general but more importantly Chelsea as a football club and what it does for the local community and millions of supporters worldwide is important. It is what worries me more with the American consortiums (from what I've heard from Todd Boehly gives me a bit more encouragement however) although they are the ones with possibly the bigger resources to help keep the club competing from a financial standpoint. 

From what is understood, it won't just be the biggest bid but the best pitch and plan for moving the club forward. I see no reason why this would change if Roman is unable to access the monies anyway. Therefore we can only trust that whether it's Roman himself, or the Raine Group, that they make the correct decision on who they believe is the best option for buying our club.

[Laylabelle 9,381]

That's it. Even if ends up being consortium long as being one with people who actually care and not doing it for oooh look at us we own a 'soccer' club aren't we amazing type thing.

[cosmicway 1,333]

First of all anyone who speaks about Roman Abramovitsh should wash his mouth with soap first.
But are all those giant conglomerations we hear of not capable of managing the Chelsea ship ?
If the sale is carried out quickly I don't see why they can't.

 

[Fulham Broadway 16,921]

British billionaire Nick Candy has said he will give Chelsea fans a seat on the club's board if he buys the Premier League giants from Roman Abramovich.  

[Bernie Finkle 6]

On 11/03/2022 at 09:45, Superblue_1986 said:

Personally I think the morality issue extends far beyond Chelsea Football Club. This has been something building and bubbling for years and has been further scrutinised in recent times with newer Premier League investors, the Super League, etc.

The facts are the Premier League need to learn lessons from this with regards to whom it allows to purchase the club. We've already had Newcastle purchased this season so it's clear there's still a blind eye being turned to where money is coming from so long as it flows into the league.

Just like in the Government right now, there needs to be a big question mark over morals running right through the football system - from owners, to players, to PL and FA exec's and even journalists who are more than happy to be dined and looked after by clubs (and many more than likely had no problem going to report the world cup in Russia at the time, or to report the next world cup in Qatar). Chelsea are firmly in the crossfires right now, but it'll be another team down the line.

Your correct but it doesn't really excuse anything with our situation . We have had a owner that has sat next to a tyrant, supported him ,  governed a province , has milked billions that has given us unparalleled success,   while we all turned the other cheek and most of us including myself excepted happily what wasn't right. Today l see that insensitive banner in the stadium and l think we don't help our selves and bring on further disapproval  .

We are know at economic war , while a innocent country is ravaged . I'm sorry l can't get my head round it .

 

[Superblue 6,372]

Adrian Durham is extremely polarising (which I completely get it's his job as a radio presenter to spark debate) but he was one of the few who a few months ago rightfully praised the club's charitable work, help and support during the early days of the Covid outbreak, recent times of employing women and black people in high positions within the board and hierarchy of the club all of which were and are rarely touched upon.

This piece today for me is spot on and I have a lot of respect for someone prepared to speak out when the vast majority of his peers within the media are taking the opportunity to jump in on Chelsea. It seems like anybody associated with the club is currently only third to Putin and Roman himself in the enemy list at present.

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2 hours ago, Bernie Finkle said:

Your correct but it doesn't really excuse anything with our situation . We have had a owner that has sat next to a tyrant, supported him ,  governed a province , has milked billions that has given us unparalleled success,   while we all turned the other cheek and most of us including myself excepted happily what wasn't right. Today l see that insensitive banner in the stadium and l think we don't help our selves and bring on further disapproval  .

We are know at economic war , while a innocent country is ravaged . I'm sorry l can't get my head round it .

 

All fans have a blind spot when it comes to their club.

The team we played today is owned by a ruler whose country executed 81 people yesterday. A country that spend billions on UK made and exported weapons.

There is an oligarch sitting in the House of Lords right now, who has given millions to the tory party, a man that has a luxury villa in Tuscany where Johnson went to parties 'full of Russian beauties' when he ditched his security, when he was Foreign Secretary.

Abramovich is an easy target.

[Tomo 21,733]

4 hours ago, Fulham Broadway said:

British billionaire Nick Candy has said he will give Chelsea fans a seat on the club's board if he buys the Premier League giants from Roman Abramovich.  

I hope not, as a fan base we're far too emotionally driven as we saw with both Lampard and Jose's sackings.

If the fans had a serious say from 2003 onwards Ranieri would still be here.

[Vesper 29,018]

13 hours ago, cosmicway said:

Have you seen this in the Mail ?

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-10600271/MARTIN-SAMUEL-Chelsea-knew-Roman-Abramovichs-money-came-time-pay-bill.html?_host=www.dailymail.co.uk&login&param_code=AQCZ0cUgKuMRZKvEDAUGOAbNV94btfZGpjmX3XhoL5K5HUIMmu5ewglJmRrRuoqw8-3fQZS4vVRfGXnwGccAnGeGf_WafRYBk_Mkt6jdBmbuX4QuSF2DHMj3fimgbDgErCDCfkowiUjg1v-qnB2pe3wKGT9M6M_jwp92JX87AiyAdBHctxT7vHW2pr8FV4F2xWS_SoTad2mNpCI52swHhj35DKDlQ9fBDoiNkdps7ZKWGINwaTxdEZ9SardBFLiBsB3POOe_8FGfyH8A3TC_n7UDwisFqKrCsDTxR491MruTSO6s21esWTz3ex9ocXZ-C32Dtdwx550u2g3PObpQP4FyBRo7hO5ExT5Ewuvonw8c7nErLeEenLuWrcOtWxx91-oNL7om3kcnFu1kcZwA750N&param_state=eyJyZW1lbWJlck1lIjpmYWxzZX0%3D&param__host=www.dailymail.co.uk&param_geolocation=row&base_fe_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.dailymail.co.uk%2F&validation_fe_uri=%2Fregistration%2Fp%2Fapi%2Ffield%2Fvalidation%2F&check_user_fe_uri=registration%2Fp%2Fapi%2Fuser%2Fuser_check%2F&isMobile=false#readerCommentsCommand-message-field

fuck Martin Samuel

MARTIN SAMUEL: Forget Mauricio Pochettino, Man United MUST capitalise on this chaos and target Chelsea's Thomas Tuchel... this is a huge chance, a coming together of circumstances. Let's see if they can find a way to blow it

• Manchester United should prioritise trying to get Thomas Tuchel out of Chelsea
• Mauricio Pochettino's Champions League collapse is terrible timing for him
• He should no longer be plan A as Tuchel is the best manager United can target
• Chelsea owner Roman Abramovich was sanctioned by government on Thursday

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-10600293/MARTIN-SAMUEL-Forget-Mauricio-Pochettino-Man-United-Thomas-Tuchel.html

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13 hours ago, cosmicway said:

Have you seen this in the Mail ?

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-10600271/MARTIN-SAMUEL-Chelsea-knew-Roman-Abramovichs-money-came-time-pay-bill.html?_host=www.dailymail.co.uk&login&param_code=AQCZ0cUgKuMRZKvEDAUGOAbNV94btfZGpjmX3XhoL5K5HUIMmu5ewglJmRrRuoqw8-3fQZS4vVRfGXnwGccAnGeGf_WafRYBk_Mkt6jdBmbuX4QuSF2DHMj3fimgbDgErCDCfkowiUjg1v-qnB2pe3wKGT9M6M_jwp92JX87AiyAdBHctxT7vHW2pr8FV4F2xWS_SoTad2mNpCI52swHhj35DKDlQ9fBDoiNkdps7ZKWGINwaTxdEZ9SardBFLiBsB3POOe_8FGfyH8A3TC_n7UDwisFqKrCsDTxR491MruTSO6s21esWTz3ex9ocXZ-C32Dtdwx550u2g3PObpQP4FyBRo7hO5ExT5Ewuvonw8c7nErLeEenLuWrcOtWxx91-oNL7om3kcnFu1kcZwA750N&param_state=eyJyZW1lbWJlck1lIjpmYWxzZX0%3D&param__host=www.dailymail.co.uk&param_geolocation=row&base_fe_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.dailymail.co.uk%2F&validation_fe_uri=%2Fregistration%2Fp%2Fapi%2Ffield%2Fvalidation%2F&check_user_fe_uri=registration%2Fp%2Fapi%2Fuser%2Fuser_check%2F&isMobile=false#readerCommentsCommand-message-field

btw

here is the trimmed URL

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-10600271/MARTIN-SAMUEL-Chelsea-knew-Roman-Abramovichs-money-came-time-pay-bill.html

[Blues Forever 1,232]

The Saudi Media is majority owned by Al-Ahli Capital (PIF is the majority owner).

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17 hours ago, cosmicway said:

The superleague is nonsense but it makes sense to somewhat limit the size of domestic leagues in favour of more European football.
For example 16 teams in the English premier instead of the present 20.

I'd be strongly against that idea. 18 would be my baseline minimum but I'd vote for 20 before I'd vote for 16.

[OhForAGreavsie 5,898]

On 14/03/2022 at 03:24, Vesper said:

btw

here is the trimmed URL

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-10600271/MARTIN-SAMUEL-Chelsea-knew-Roman-Abramovichs-money-came-time-pay-bill.html

Although I wouldn't use the daily mail to wipe up after myself, I've always liked Martin Samuels independence of thought. When the pack is running off in one direction he has often been looking for a different angle. This pile of twaddle however is just another contribution to my growing anger about the way this issue is playing out.

Let's leave aside the fact that Roman is a minority shareholder in the company Samuels is referencing. Let's leave aside the company denies selling to the Russian armaments industry. Let's leave aside that British businessmen who own British companies that supply Britain's arms trade are liable to get knighted not sanctioned. Let's leave aside that Roman's money with which he bought Chelsea, and with which he invested in Chelsea, came in large part (at least) from other sources. Let's leave all that aside and ask where is the detail? Yet again we have an anti Roman article based around an assertion with no evidence. Show us first that the company supplies Russia's arms industry. Show us examples of UK businessman being held morally responsible when products made by companies they own are used to make weapons which then kill innocents. Show us a direct link between income from that company and investment in Chelsea Football club. Show us your working Samuels or shut your gob.

Edited March 15, 2022 by OhForAGreavsie

[OhForAGreavsie 5,898]

This was one of the results when I searched YouTube for Emma Hayes's post-game thoughts from yesterday's CFCW win over Aston Villa. I'm glad there is some sense somewhere amid all the madness.

I stand against war. I stand against any attempt to redraw national boundaries by force of arms. I stand against the targeting of civilians in pursuit of military objectives. I stand against Russia's invasion of Ukraine. I stand against anyone who does not also stand against this invasion. I will condemn Roman Abramovich when, and only when, I see evidence of his culpability or complicity with the things we all stand against.

Edited March 14, 2022 by OhForAGreavsie

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2 hours ago, OhForAGreavsie said:

This was one of the results when I searched YouTube for Emma Hayes's post-game thoughts from yesterday's CFCW win over Aston Villa. I'm glad there is some sense somewhere amid all the madness.

I stand against war. I stand against any attempt to redraw national boundaries by force of arms. I stand against the targeting of civilians in pursuit of military objectives. I stand against Russia's invasion of Ukraine. I stand against anyone who does not also stand against this invasion. I will condemn Roman Abramovich when, and only when, I see evidence of his culpability or complicity with the things we all stand against.

Roman Abramovich settles case over defamatory claims Putin ordered him to buy Chelsea

Russian oligarch took a libel case against author Catherine Belton and HarperCollins

https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/soccer/english-soccer/roman-abramovich-settles-case-over-defamatory-claims-putin-ordered-him-to-buy-Chelsea-1.4761986

The Russian oligarch Roman Abramovich has settled his libel claim against the journalist Catherine Belton over her bestselling book Putin’s People, after an agreement was reached late on Tuesday.

The text will now recognise that the allegation Abramovich bought Chelsea football club at the Russian president’s behest is not a statement of fact. It will include additional denials from the oligarch’s spokesperson and the club.

It will also correct a claim that the late oligarch Boris Berezovsky co-owned the Russian oil company Sibneft with Abramovich. The amendment follows a 2011-12 high court legal battle between the two men, which Abramovich won. The book’s publisher, HarperCollins, has agreed to make a payment to charity “in recognition of this error”, it said.

Abramovich sued over a number of claims, including that he bought Chelsea on Vladimir Putin’s orders. He was one of three Russian tycoons who initiated libel proceedings against Belton and HarperCollins, together with the Russian state oil company Rosneft.

The other defendants subsequently settled or withdrew their claims. Abramovich ended his case after HarperCollins said on Wednesday some information concerning the oligarch was inaccurate. It agreed to make revisions to the book, widely acclaimed as the definitive work on the Putin era.

HarperCollins hailed the overnight settlement as a fair agreement. There are no damages being paid to Abramovich himself. Both sides will pay their own costs. Had the libel trial gone ahead in the high court next year the legal bill was likely to have exceeded £10m, it is understood.

The publisher said: “While the book always included a denial that Mr Abramovich was acting under anybody’s direction when he purchased Chelsea, the new edition will include a more detailed explanation of Mr Abramovich’s motivations for buying the club.

“HarperCollins has also made clear in the book that there is no evidence, beyond the statements of the individuals themselves, supporting claims made to the author by [the former Kremlin insider] Sergei Pugachev and two other unnamed individuals about the purchase of Chelsea Football Club.”

HarperCollins acknowledged that a high court judge described Berezovsky as an “inherently unreliable witness”. It added: “HarperCollins and the author apologise that these aspects of the book were not as clear as they would have liked them to have been and are happy to have now clarified the text.”

Despite the revisions, the agreement is being seen overall as a victory for Belton, who has come under unprecedented legal assault from billionaires with Kremlin ties. Abramovich served for eight years as governor of Chukotka, a region in Russia’s far east. He has consistently denied being under the Russian government’s control.

In a statement, she said “this last year has felt like a war of attrition” in which she had been “bombarded with lawsuits” from four Russian billionaires and Rosneft.

Belton added: “Though the claimants have denied it was coordinated, it has seemed to me similar to the Kremlin’s multi-pronged campaign against Ukraine in which it has sought to exhaust the west into making security concessions over Nato’s expansion.”

She continued: “Throughout, HarperCollins has staunchly defended the book. I could not have wished for a better or braver publisher more committed to public interest journalism.”

Campaigners have described the case against Belton as an abuse of the UK’s libel system. Abramovich sued the former Financial Times journalist personally as well as her publisher.

The settlement was made following an approach by Abramovich, it is understood. HarperCollins said Belton had always been willing to include the oligarch’s comments on the allegations, and recognised that books on controversial contemporary themes needed updating as new information emerged.

At a preliminary hearing in November, Mrs Justice Tipples ruled that several passages in the book that Abramovich said conveyed untrue statements about him were potentially defamatory of him.

One such claim was the suggestion that Abramovich was “under the control of Putin” and that the oligarch was obliged “to make the fortune from his business empire available for the use of President Putin and his regime”, Tipples wrote, in a 34-page ruling. But she ruled three out of four sections complained of by Rosneft were not defamatory, with the oil firm subsequently shelving its case.

Tipples emphasised that the court was only, at that point, adjudicating on meaning. It was not deciding whether the allegations made about Abramovich or anyone else were true or false. Following Wednesday’s settlement the claims will not be tested in court.

At the initial hearing, Abramovich’s lawyer said the book repeated “lazy inaccuracies about Abramovich’s role in various events” and made false and damaging statements about him which were “completely without foundation”.

Belton spent seven years writing Putin’s People and was based in Moscow as the bureau chief for the FT. Last month, she was named the 2021 outstanding investigative journalist in awards named after Sergei Magnitsky, a Russian anti-corruption lawyer who died in jail. – Guardian

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Roman saw what was coming,remember he was being targetted long before Putin sent in others to die for what he wants.

i’m more pissed off with how he and us are being targetted than the fact Roman is no longer going to be our owner. Although eternally grateful to Roman,there’s some aspects of his ownership that has shot us in the foot many times.we’ve won more than anyone would have expected.in my childhood the limit of my Chelsea dreams was maybe one day i’d see us win one FA cup.we’ve had some truly great coaches that should have had more time and with having Tuchel who really is someone i want long term,not having the over impulsive Roman as his boss now is in some ways a relief.Roman leaving does leave a bitter taste the way it’s happening but in the long run it could be a blessing in disguise.

we probably best getting an American billionaire to be our new owner..Saudi owners too risky now..Candy seems like someone whose heart is in the right place but doesnt appear to have enough money to keep us competitive on the top table. Liverpool and Arsenal have American owners that give their managers time and whilst not Roman’s level of financial backing,enough to get the job done.