Non-Chelsea Transfer Pub

[kmk108 1,186]

2 hours ago, the wes said:

ATLETICO MADRID director Andrea Berta has travelled to London in a bid to tie up deals for Diego Costa and Pedro, according to sensational reports in Spain

 

http://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/636817/Chelsea-transfer-news-Atletico-Madrid-Diego-Costa-Pedro

 

 

Why? They're both cup tied in the CL and we're in a "striker crisis"

 

unless it's an effort for us to pick up Griezmann or Martinez, it makes little sense. 

 

Edit: just read that it would be for the summer. Fine by me. I don't like Costa's antics and Pedro hasn't settled. Martinez could be in a swap. I would welcome that, but I'm a bit weary of Martinez's time at Atletico. 

[cosmicway 1,333]

17 hours ago, Rhino's Skin said:

financially it makes sense.

The extra revenue on the increased amount of corporate will be massive.

On top of extra corporate, extra supporters through the gates are not just about match ticket sales. There will be extra revenue gained in the club shop, food and drink stalls  plus potential revenue from other sports such as boxing, American Football etc etc wanting to hire an iconic stadium

 

Why can't we have boxing now ?
There is no lack of space.
Back in the sixties we used to have wrestling in Athens football ground.
The house across the road belonged to a retired admiral and we used to go there and watch from the balcony.
It was Arion versus the monster.
My mom said she thought Arion was a Greek-Egyptian a third cousin of ours.

[Rhino's Skin 972]

financially it makes sense.

The extra revenue on the increased amount of corporate will be massive.

On top of extra corporate, extra supporters through the gates are not just about match ticket sales. There will be extra revenue gained in the club shop, food and drink stalls  plus potential revenue from other sports such as boxing, American Football etc etc wanting to hire an iconic stadium

 

Why can't we have boxing now ?

There is no lack of space.

Back in the sixties we used to have wrestling in Athens football ground.

The house across the road belonged to a retired admiral and we used to go there and watch from the balcony.

It was Arion versus the monster.

My mom said she thought Arion was a Greek-Egyptian a third cousin of ours.

We can have other sports now but my point is that a big new shiny stadium with extra capacity is more appealing

[Sideshow Luiz 2,310]

2 hours ago, Rhino's Skin said:

We can have other sports now but my point is that a big new shiny stadium with extra capacity is more appealing

It's all about the capacity.

Stamford Bridge = 42K

The teams we want to compete with in Europe are 60+.  80 and 100K respectively for Madrid and Barcelona.

Even in England:

Old Trafford = 75K

Emirates = 60K

Etihad = 60K

It's hard to compete with teams whose gate revenues are 50% higher than ours.

[Reddish-Blue 2,503]

On 1/21/2016 at 5:30 AM, kmk108 said:

Why? They're both cup tied in the CL and we're in a "striker crisis"

 

unless it's an effort for us to pick up Griezmann or Martinez, it makes little sense. 

 

Edit: just read that it would be for the summer. Fine by me. I don't like Costa's antics and Pedro hasn't settled. Martinez could be in a swap. I would welcome that, but I'm a bit weary of Martinez's time at Atletico. 

I don't like Costa's antics either but he's the only 20-goal-a-season striker we have.  Martinez is over-rated, he was a big-fish in a small pond at FC Porto.

[The Skipper 20,609]

For me, we need to look at these positions, assuming the players that are already in the XI are in top form:

Courtois

Azpi - Zouma - (a) - (b)

Matic - Fabregas - (c)

Willian - Costa - Hazard

At (a), I'm looking for a classy ball playing centre back, so someone like Stones would be a good fit. If we bring in Christensen in the future as well who's having some great development at Gladbach then we'd have some excellent young centre backs for the future, with someone like Cahill backing them up.

At (b), I really want to see Kenedy have a go there, I believe he has massive potential there if he learns the position well. We also gave Ake out on loan so when he's back, those two can fight for the LB spot.

At (c), we have the option to let someone like RLC develop or get in a proper CM. Ramires isn't good enough IMO so I would like to see an improvement on him there.

We also need to improve our quality in depth.

From now till the end of the season, my starting XI would actually be:

Courtois

Azpi - Zouma - JT - Kenedy

RLC - Cesc - Matic

Willian - Costa - Hazard

 

 

[Beepu 1,714]

1 hour ago, The Skipper said:

For me, we need to look at these positions, assuming the players that are already in the XI are in top form:

Courtois

Azpi - Zouma - (a) - (b)

Matic - Fabregas - (c)

Willian - Costa - Hazard

At (a), I'm looking for a classy ball playing centre back, so someone like Stones would be a good fit. If we bring in Christensen in the future as well who's having some great development at Gladbach then we'd have some excellent young centre backs for the future, with someone like Cahill backing them up.

At (b), I really want to see Kenedy have a go there, I believe he has massive potential there if he learns the position well. We also gave Ake out on loan so when he's back, those two can fight for the LB spot.

At (c), we have the option to let someone like RLC develop or get in a proper CM. Ramires isn't good enough IMO so I would like to see an improvement on him there.

We also need to improve our quality in depth.

From now till the end of the season, my starting XI would actually be:

Courtois

Azpi - Zouma - JT - Kenedy

RLC - Cesc - Matic

Willian - Costa - Hazard

 

 

Do you think Kennedy can be defensively trustworthy? 

[bellion 170]

With the shamble of a transfer committee in Emenalo & co, I fully expect no signings to be completed in this transfer window which would strengthen the first team or even the squad for that matter.  At the most, there might be one or two so-called promising youngsters signed for the loan market.

[bellion 170]

I fully expect the pathetic transfer dealings of last summer to continue in the summer of 2016 with crocked, has-been players signed for high wages together with a bunch of nobodies and youngsters for the loaner market.  

Stones and Griezmann are pipe dreams - Emenalo & co won't even be able to sign the likes of second rate players like Teixeira.

Meanwhile, Hazard and Costa will leave whilst the likes of Ivanovic, Ramires and Oscar remain and washed outs like Lavezzi joins for the money.

[blues.bridge 343]

how much you want for selling of oscar and willian?

[Leif 6,006]

It'd be criminal not to, and genius to, direct swap Matic for Krychowiak

[CurlyHairLikeLuiz 1,625]

For me, Ivanovic can be a good squad player for us next season; certainly more so than Cahill.

John Terry must be here next season and he must play - Christensen stays at Monchengladbach for his second year of his loan.

Baba sold; Ake brought back and Kenedy and him rotate that LB position and in central midfield.

Loftus Cheek must be trusted with a big, big role in the starting XI.

Simeone should be brought in.

Fabregas must stay and play in that Mikel-RLC-Cesc midfield.

Oscar kept as depth - he can play 4 up front positions.

               Courtois

Azpi   Zouma   Terry (C)  Ake/Kenedy

        RLC  Mikel/Ake  Cesc

  Willian                      Hazard

                 Costa

Bench: Begovic, Ivanovic, Oscar, Mikel/Kenedy, Remy, Traore, Cahill

[Blue_Fox_ 2,086]

I don't agree with this trend of having both Aké and Kenedy at lb without a first team kind of player in there. Having both in the team? Hell yes. Having them compete for the same spot? No.
They're both good prospects at lb, but that's what they are, good prospects and nothing more,  id' rather choose between one of them as second choice lb and then have someone already established in there.

How i'd choose between them? That's a tough one, as i like them both.

[bethos1 802]

You guys are writing off Baba way too soon imo.

[Reddish-Blue 2,503]

20 hours ago, The Skipper said:

For me, we need to look at these positions, assuming the players that are already in the XI are in top form:

Courtois

Azpi - Zouma - (a) - (b)

Matic - Fabregas - (c)

Willian - Costa - Hazard

At (a), I'm looking for a classy ball playing centre back, so someone like Stones would be a good fit. If we bring in Christensen in the future as well who's having some great development at Gladbach then we'd have some excellent young centre backs for the future, with someone like Cahill backing them up.

At (b), I really want to see Kenedy have a go there, I believe he has massive potential there if he learns the position well. We also gave Ake out on loan so when he's back, those two can fight for the LB spot.

At (c), we have the option to let someone like RLC develop or get in a proper CM. Ramires isn't good enough IMO so I would like to see an improvement on him there.

We also need to improve our quality in depth.

From now till the end of the season, my starting XI would actually be:

Courtois

Azpi - Zouma - JT - Kenedy

RLC - Cesc - Matic

Willian - Costa - Hazard

 

 

Matic has been awful this season.  If we're going to clear out players in the summer, he should go (along with Ramires). 

[Barbara 15,149]

27 minutes ago, Reddish-Blue said:

Matic has been awful this season.  If we're going to clear out players in the summer, he should go (along with Ramires). 

He had a flawless season last year, so I think the least he deserves is the benefit of the doubt and another season to prove his worth. There's a long list of players in the current squad I'd sell before considering him.

Agree about Ramires though

[cosmicway 1,333]

I 'm waiting for some announcement, yellow letters.
Reminds me of Greek January transfer window of the year 1984.
Jugoslav international Surijak was the hot property then.
He did n't come. An excuse was made up that he reached the frontier late at night but had forgotten his passport.

 

[OhForAGreavsie 6,072]

I'm not watching West Ham any more, it's depressing. Not only did we fail to get Dimi Payet, we will never get him. Every top club in the league, not to mention many on the continent, will have set their sights on him and we won't win that fight. Assuming we even got in the ring that is.

[CurlyHairLikeLuiz 1,625]

Unless we can buy somebody like Griezmann then there is nearly no value in buying in January for me.

And in the summer there's quite a few of our loanees/academy boys that can come in and do a job for us - Ake at LB/DM, RLC at CM, Pasalic at DM, etc etc

Considering the position we're in I think it would be a good time to break a few of 'em in.

[kellzfresh 7,229]

1 hour ago, OhForAGreavsie said:

I'm not watching West Ham any more, it's depressing. Not only did we fail to get Dimi Payet, we will never get him. Every top club in the league, not to mention many on the continent, will have set their sights on him and we won't win that fight. Assuming we even got in the ring that is.

I'm all for going all out for payet. I don't care about his age, he's far better than current Oscar. He'll vastly improve our creativity for 3 solid years.