The English Football Thread

[Vesper 29,234]

2 minutes ago, killer1257 said:

Haaland is a galaxy beyond thiago in talent? Thiago was in my opinion the best midfielder after KDB last season. If people said to me that Thiago was better than KDB, I could see their point. 

I have watched Thiago since he was 19 years old here and there and just like KdB, he was destined for greatness. Injuriries stopped him and the two best midfielders I have seen with my own eyes in my life Xavi and Iniesta were just better than him. Nothing to be ashamed of. 

Also, I do not see the point comparing Thiago with Haaland. Fully fit Thiago can do things that Haaland can dream of like perfect first touch, playing fabrepasses for fun and controlling the game, while Haaland can play CF in a classical sense,which thiago can not play. 

 

Thiago is a great MFer, but also benefited massively from the system and talent around him

[killer1257 3,282]

2 minutes ago, Vesper said:

Thiago is a great MFer, but also benefited massively from the system and talent around him

In Germany we think that Thiago was the key player for Bayern's all round success last season and I belong to that group that believes that. In my opinion, this Bayern currently can be beaten easily. 

Thiago is the best Bundesliga midfielder I have seen out of my head. Xabi Alonso and Schweinsteiger were also great, but I prefer thiago overall. 

And you don't believe that BVB's system and players benefit Haaland currently? He has Sancho and Reus for instance next to him. 

I am very certain that at Chelsea Haaland would struggle big time because we do not have players that can create chances. At Man City, he would easily score 25+ goals because everything is working and they have the most creative players in the world. 

[Vesper 29,234]

2 minutes ago, killer1257 said:

In Germany we think that Thiago was the key player for Bayern's all round success last season and I belong to that group that believes that. In my opinion, this Bayern currently can be beaten easily. 

Thiago is the best Bundesliga midfielder I have seen out of my head. Xabi Alonso and Schweinsteiger were also great, but I prefer thiago overall. 

And you don't believe that BVB's system and players benefit Haaland currently? He has Sancho and Reus for instance next to him. 

I am very certain that at Chelsea Haaland would struggle big time because we do not have players that can create chances. At Man City, he would easily score 25+ goals because everything is working and they have the most creative players in the world. 

Wasn't talking about Håland at Chels. He isn't going to come here. We are too much of a mess atm. We only have a 50/50 shot at even qualifying for the CL. Today was a real kick in the teeth.

Håland can play it almost any way possible.

He and Mbappe are the new CR7 and Messi.

Bookmark this and see if I was right.

I like my odds.

[killer1257 3,282]

1 minute ago, Vesper said:

Wasn't talking about Håland at Chels. He isn't going to come here. We are too much of a mess atm. We only have a 50/50 shot at even qualifying for the CL. Today was a real kick in the teeth.

Håland can play it almost any way possible.

He and Mbappe are the new CR7 and Messi.

Bookmark this and see if I was right.

I like my odds.

Messi and CR7 are much better talent wise.

Mbappe is scoring for fun against french teams, while Haaland is scoring for fun in Bundesliga. For me, these league's are not that impressive. I mean even Andre Silva is destroying Bundesliga currently. Jovic for instance 1 sub appearance and scored 2 goals instantly,but played garbage at Madrid and I knew Jovic would be a horrible signing. I live in Frankfurt and I have seen him play couple of times. Nothing made me think that he is Real Madrid quality. 

[Vesper 29,234]

1 minute ago, killer1257 said:

Messi and CR7 are much better talent wise.

Mbappe is scoring for fun against french teams, while Haaland is scoring for fun in Bundesliga. For me, these league's are not that impressive. I mean even Andre Silva is destroying Bundesliga currently. Jovic for instance 1 sub appearance and scored 2 goals instantly,but played garbage at Madrid and I knew Jovic would be a horrible signing. I live in Frankfurt and I have seen him play couple of times. Nothing made me think that he is Real Madrid quality. 

You are wilfully leaving out their ages and especially Mbappe's record on a global platform.

Messi and CR7 were NEVER doing these things at the same age.

[Laylabelle 9,411]

1 hour ago, Jype said:

The five before them aren't so bad though.

3rd April - WBA (home)

10th April - Palace (away)

17th April - Brighton (home)

24th April - West Ham (away)

1st May - Fulham (home)

Next three games will be vital. Still being in a good position top4-wise after United, Liverpool, Everton would give a massive confidence boost going into the 'easier' run of games.

Let's hope can get something from those 3. We haven't won at Anfield in the league since 2014..be nice to change that! But they're on their shite run of can't defend..our attack is a bit mehh soooo. 

[killer1257 3,282]

2 minutes ago, Vesper said:

You are wilfully leaving out their ages and especially Mbappe's record on a global platform.

Messi and CR7 were NEVER doing these things at the same age.

What do you mean with global platform? French national team? If yes, I mean, france has an insane squad in every area. Giroud won the World cup without having one shot at target. The football abilities shown in WC in general is horrific. I prefer watching PL than WC. 

Like I said before, for me scoring 150 goals in case of Mbappe in the french league is a nice statistic, but there are much harder leagues and CR7 and Messi were playing in those two leagues. I don't care about age. 

Obviously, if they stay in their leagues they will have outscored Messi and Ronaldo in 4 or 5 years. But my eyes show me the differences in skills between all those guys

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[Blue Armour 4,336]

4 hours ago, Milan said:

Liverpool have lost four straight league home games for the first time since 1923.

......but, have they ever lost 5 straight..? Asking for a friend...

[Milan 17,881]

West Ham take the early lead.

Lloris has been in some serious shitty form.

[Milan 17,881]

Soucek wins a header when defending a corner, gets head clashed, is full of blood in his face and still gets up getting ready to block a shot. A warrior.

[Vesper 29,234]

2020-21 English Premier League

West Ham United               
Tottenham Hotspur           

http://www.sportnews.to/mysports/2021/premier-league-west-ham-united-vs-tottenham-hotspur-s1/#!

https://www.totalsportek.com/page-3/

[Vesper 29,234]

sorry for the late post we were out running in the park next to our house

[Atomiswave 6,072]

16 hours ago, Vesper said:

As long as Pep is at Citeh we have little chance to win the EPL. IF they pull Håland, zero. Another brace today. 29 goals, 7 assists in 2100 or so minutes. A few months back he was a teenager still.

We can do it with or without him, we just need that killer striker and some creativity. If Eric goes to City its par for the course, they dont give a fuck about ffp.

14 hours ago, Vesper said:

You are wilfully leaving out their ages and especially Mbappe's record on a global platform.

Messi and CR7 were NEVER doing these things at the same age.

That is true, but I highly highly doubt the likes of Mbappe will keep on going like this when they hit 28 and up. Early bloomer.

[Vesper 29,234]

2 nil

Lingard

[Milan 17,881]

Lingard reborn lol, 2-0 WHU

[killer1257 3,282]

It seems that Moyes is a mastermind lol. What he is achieving with West Ham is insane. Soucek and Rice are one of the best midfield duos in the world 😂. 

Edited February 21, 2021 by killer1257

[Milan 17,881]

Shame it is impossible for both teams to lose lol. A draw would be just perfect. We need to hope WHU will implode and the sudden chance will make them stumble.