The English Football Thread

[Blues Forever 1,232]

10 minutes ago, Magic Lamps said:

Conte at Spurs is much easier to handle than at ManUre from a pure rational perspective but it does itch me a little bit that he would go to a rival despite how much he is still revered by Chelsea fans. Anyway, there is not much loyalty left in footy, esp from managers.

cheers Nuno for beating City tho. Really weird why Levy is so trigger happy now after giving worse managers like Mou, Jol and Ramos years. Might be smth personal behind that as well.

If Conte did the same with Inter being an ex Juve Captain and legend, what makes you think he won't do the same with Tottenham?

[Atomiswave 6,120]

31 minutes ago, Magic Lamps said:

Conte at Spurs is much easier to handle than at ManUre from a pure rational perspective but it does itch me a little bit that he would go to a rival despite how much he is still revered by Chelsea fans. Anyway, there is not much loyalty left in footy, esp from managers.

cheers Nuno for beating City tho. Really weird why Levy is so trigger happy now after giving worse managers like Mou, Jol and Ramos years. Might be smth personal behind that as well.

He had the taste of CL exposure and money, he will want that back again.....they are desperate as fuck.

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[OneMoSalah 9,123]

Conte is more of a fit for Spurs than Nuno was ever going to be. That squad looks like it has to play a back 3, with wingbacks like Regulion and Emerson/Doherty.

Be interesting to see if they finalise a deal for him now after failing 4 months ago. And if it falls apart or lasts.

[Fernando 6,743]

He wanted Kane before now he will have him

I think he can turn them around, and the squad is suited for his wing backs and what not 

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[Tomo 21,754]

1 hour ago, Magic Lamps said:

Conte at Spurs is much easier to handle than at ManUre from a pure rational perspective but it does itch me a little bit that he would go to a rival despite how much he is still revered by Chelsea fans. Anyway, there is not much loyalty left in footy, esp from managers.

cheers Nuno for beating City tho. Really weird why Levy is so trigger happy now after giving worse managers like Mou, Jol and Ramos years. Might be smth personal behind that as well.

Jol was pretty good, consecutive 5th place finishes with a bang average squad.

Regarding Conte, he went to his beloved clubs major rivals so he was never going to spare us if the chance came along. I do think we'll smash them at The Bridge in his first return, I believe Jose's thumping on first return was karma for the way he behaved at the end of his tenure and I Conte's due some of the same.

[Tomo 21,754]

On another note, United fans must be spitting feathers.

How glad I am we have an owner not willing to exploit our fans dropping their standards to accommodate Frank and Jose when they had us plummeting down the table.

[Pizy 19,381]

Probably means if United are to make a change it won’t be until the season is over. They’re stuck with him for good now that the only world class replacement is off the table.

It also probably means that if Ole does go at season’s end they’ll either hope Pochettino is gone from PSG or they’ll target one of the two hot property British managers in Rodgers or Potter. To be honest I think Rodgers would be a smart longer term hire.

Either way United will have the weakest, least accomplished manager BY FAR of the top clubs for the foreseeable future. 

[Jase 43,479]

2 minutes ago, Pizy said:

Probably means if United are to make a change it won’t be until the season is over. They’re stuck with him for good now that the only world class replacement is off the table.

It also probably means that if Ole does go at season’s end they’ll either hope Pochettino is gone from PSG or they’ll target one of the two hot property British managers in Rodgers or Potter. To be honest I think Rodgers would be a smart longer term hire.

Either way United will have the weakest, least accomplished manager BY FAR of the top clubs for the foreseeable future. 

At this rate, Solskjaer is gonna outlast every other manager in the league. 

[NikkiCFC 8,529]

Surprised Conte accepted this. His standards are highest and Spurs are nowhere near that. 

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6 minutes ago, Tomo said:

Regarding Conte, he went to his beloved clubs major rivals so he was never going to spare us if the chance came along. 

This. I never expected him to turn down a Premier League club because of his Chelsea connections, especially since his reign here ended in a bitter taste with a lawsuit. Then again it's a still bit disappointing seeing him on the verge of signing for Spurs.

[Pizy 19,381]

3 minutes ago, Jase said:

At this rate, Solskjaer is gonna outlast every other manager in the league. 

United club hierarchy absolutely love him because he’s a smiling Yes Man who they have total control over. He won’t ever criticize them, he won’t ever act out, he won’t ever make them look bad if transfers don’t go his way.

This is clearly why they were terrified of bringing Conte in. He’s too much of an alpha male for them and would kill them if he didn’t get his way.

After LvG and Mourinho (who are both also alpha male, dominant personalities) burned them they’re scared of that sort of manager again. Potter or Rodgers would be similar to Ole. Two managers taking a gigantic step up and just happy to be there.

[ZAPHOD2319 4,976]

The Glazers like selling merchandise. They stay away from anything that could hurt those t-shit sales. 

[LAM09 7,100]

It seems odd that Conte & Levy couldn't come to an agreement over the summer but have miraculously come to one now. 

Either way, we all know that if he does actually join them, it won't last long. 

[Tomo 21,754]

6 minutes ago, LAM09 said:

It seems odd that Conte & Levy couldn't come to an agreement over the summer but have miraculously come to one now. 

Either way, we all know that if he does actually join them, it won't last long. 

My educated guess is the hostile atmosphere on Saturday has forced Levy's hand, they've made it clear they're at the end of their tether with him so he's panicked and meet Conte half way (possibly more).

[Pizy 19,381]

25 minutes ago, LAM09 said:

It seems odd that Conte & Levy couldn't come to an agreement over the summer but have miraculously come to one now. 

Either way, we all know that if he does actually join them, it won't last long. 

Didn’t things with Conte fall apart in the summer over him wanting to bring in his huge coaching staff? Guess Levy is desperate enough now to give in to his demands.

[Blue Armour 4,759]

33 minutes ago, Tomo said:

My educated guess is the hostile atmosphere on Saturday has forced Levy's hand, they've made it clear they're at the end of their tether with him so he's panicked and meet Conte half way (possibly more).

How you think it will go for Conte & Spurs? Make them an easy top 4 contender again?

[Tomo 21,754]

12 minutes ago, Blue Armour said:

How you think it will go for Conte & Spurs? Make them an easy top 4 contender again?

He will certainly have them there or there abouts once again (unless the masks comes off before the success this time).

Difficult to gauge how good his peak will be on this occasion, if he inherited their 2017 side I'd be seriously worried but with the current squad and Levy's backing (even if he heavily backs Conte for Spurs' standard it still won't be enough to compete with what other clubs can put on the table) I think the title will be a big ask even for him.

From our perspective he's certainly better of at Spurs than United, I reckon he could have got the latter seriously challenging immediately.

Edited November 1, 2021 by Tomo

[LAM09 7,100]

42 minutes ago, Tomo said:

My educated guess is the hostile atmosphere on Saturday has forced Levy's hand, they've made it clear they're at the end of their tether with him so he's panicked and meet Conte half way (possibly more).

That's probably the case. He needlessly threw money down the drain by appointing Nuno, and in the end, he's given into Conte's demands and made things worse for him/the club.

24 minutes ago, Pizy said:

Didn’t things with Conte fall apart in the summer over him wanting to bring in his huge coaching staff? Guess Levy is desperate enough now to give in to his demands.

I not sure about that. Possibly the case, but I'm sure he'll want a decent size transfer budget as well, which raises questions considering they spent a fair chunk a number of months ago.