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1 minute ago, Jason said:

We have only 1 league defeat this season. Arsenal have 3. But we both have the same number of points. This season is just stupid.

They have got some of the hardest away fixtures out the way though, City, Liverpool and United. Thanks God they lost to Leicester otherwise their fans would be too high on their pedestal.

Although it is not a bad point, you just see the way away teams have attacked United and we paid them way too much respect. 

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4 minutes ago, Stats said:

They have got some of the hardest away fixtures out the way though, City, Liverpool and United. Thanks God they lost to Leicester otherwise their fans would be too high on their pedestal.

Although it is not a bad point, you just see the way away teams have attacked United and we paid them way too much respect. 

It feels like a decent point but it also feels like a bad point. This United side are terrible but as you said, we gave them far too much respect. It's a missed opportunity. 

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2 minutes ago, Jason said:

United are in 15th after 6 games and they go to Everton next weekend...

I dont think Everton will be a issue...theyre on the slide!

Our 2 silly draws definitely cost us so far.  Though the West Brom one could've easily been a loss so guess not sooo bad

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2 minutes ago, Jason said:

It feels like a decent point but it also feels like a bad point. This United side are terrible but as you said, we gave them far too much respect. It's a missed opportunity. 

About respect also important thing is that UTD is very dangerous when you attack them. Look how many times they beat City, PSG... Look what happened to Leipzig. Palace beat them on counters, for Spurs everything changed after red card, and Arsenal also had similar approach but unlike us they got penalty. As Frank said he was hoping for individual brilliance in the final third from Puli, Werner, Kai... If we had that we would won. And look what happened to us last season there...

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1 minute ago, NikkiCFC said:

About respect also important thing is that UTD is very dangerous when you attack them. Look how many times they beat City, PSG... Look what happened to Leipzig. Palace beat them on counters, for Spurs everything changed after red card, and Arsenal also had similar approach but unlike us they got penalty. As Frank said he was hoping for individual brilliance in the final third from Puli, Werner, Kai... If we had that we would won. And look what happened to us last season there...

Look at the average position of us and Arsenal. Arsenal tried to attack more than we did and still looked comfortable defensively. 

No one is saying we should have gone gung-ho against United but we should have been a bit less cautious than we did. 

26 minutes ago, Jason said:

Compare and contrast the average positions of us and Arsenal at Old Trafford...

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54 minutes ago, Jason said:

It feels like a decent point but it also feels like a bad point. This United side are terrible but as you said, we gave them far too much respect. It's a missed opportunity. 

The game should have ended 0-1 to us, if also we were awarded a penalty which was incorrectly, not given. But Arsenal dominated from the first minute. We have better creativity than they too, so we couild have carved them open but oh well, still will take the point.

53 minutes ago, Jason said:

United are in 15th after 6 games and they go to Everton next weekend...

They tend to do better away from home plus also Everton look so vulnerable without Richarlison and James Rodriguez both not playing. But hopefully James is back for that. But the way the league works is so weird. Arsenal look clueless against a depleted Leicester team and lose 1-0 and then go on to win against United. United battered Leipzig in the week and then lose to Arsenal LOL. This league comes up with so many disproportionate results.

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5 minutes ago, Stats said:

The game should have ended 0-1 to us, if also we were awarded a penalty which was incorrectly, not given. But Arsenal dominated from the first minute. We have better creativity than they too, so we couild have carved them open but oh well, still will take the point.

Yes, we should have gotten the penalty but at the same time, if we had shown a bit more intent, we might have won it without relying on a penalty to win.

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